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Old 11-24-2017, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paulyjsob View Post
With the work you did to the F225, why replace it?? The exhaust is really the only issue with that motor, otherwise, she's just broken in and ready for at least another 1200 hours.
I know. I think about that also.

I guess it's like boat twofootitis,,, wanting more HP and a new motor,,,motoritis!!
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Old 11-24-2017, 11:00 PM
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The only thing that makes me unhappy about a G2 is they don't offer a V8.
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I'm in a conundrum on what to do. I currently have a 2004 Yamaha F225 with 1200 hrs on it. It's mounted on the back of a Grady-White 228 Seafarer, just bought this package back in April. I've had all the exhaust done and some other parts replaced. Motor runs fine the best I can tell.

I work for a Evinrude dealer and the Evinrude rep has been working with me on pricing of a new 250 HO G2 and digital controls. I've also been working with my Yamaha people on pricing out a new F250 with digital controls.

Cannot make up my mind, one minute I'm staying with Yamaha because that's what Grady's are supposed to have, the next I'm looking hard at the G2, torque, fuel burn, little bit lighter, 10 year warranty and no BS about warranty issues and I work on them as a certified technician. Seems cut and dried, but I'm still going back and forth.

What to do, what to do?
No brainer.....what engine do you work on more often and which will give you early retirement because of lack of work?

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Old 11-25-2017, 04:59 AM
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I'm in a conundrum on what to do. I currently have a 2004 Yamaha F225 with 1200 hrs on it. It's mounted on the back of a Grady-White 228 Seafarer, just bought this package back in April. I've had all the exhaust done and some other parts replaced. Motor runs fine the best I can tell.

I work for a Evinrude dealer and the Evinrude rep has been working with me on pricing of a new 250 HO G2 and digital controls. I've also been working with my Yamaha people on pricing out a new F250 with digital controls.

Cannot make up my mind, one minute I'm staying with Yamaha because that's what Grady's are supposed to have, the next I'm looking hard at the G2, torque, fuel burn, little bit lighter, 10 year warranty and no BS about warranty issues and I work on them as a certified technician. Seems cut and dried, but I'm still going back and forth.

What to do, what to do?
Ask your boss and Evinrude to chip in a bit so people don't see a guy who works in a Evinrude dealer choose a Yamaha! - on the other hand if they see you running an Evinrude and you can tell customers the benefits from personal experience and the reason you chose it for your own boat, that's going to be the best sales message they will ever get.
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I'm in a conundrum on what to do. I currently have a 2004 Yamaha F225 with 1200 hrs on it. It's mounted on the back of a Grady-White 228 Seafarer, just bought this package back in April. I've had all the exhaust done and some other parts replaced. Motor runs fine the best I can tell.

I work for a Evinrude dealer and the Evinrude rep has been working with me on pricing of a new 250 HO G2 and digital controls. I've also been working with my Yamaha people on pricing out a new F250 with digital controls.

Cannot make up my mind, one minute I'm staying with Yamaha because that's what Grady's are supposed to have, the next I'm looking hard at the G2, torque, fuel burn, little bit lighter, 10 year warranty and no BS about warranty issues and I work on them as a certified technician. Seems cut and dried, but I'm still going back and forth.

What to do, what to do?
Nothing better than a G2 on a heavy Grady! No brainer.

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Believe me, I've been there on both these points.

So far, Yamaha is $26,215, I'll find out next week on the G2, I'm sure it will come out cheaper as I'll do my own rigging on it, plus any discounts as a dealer also. Went to Sturtevant a couple of weeks ago for training and got to talk with other techs from around the country that also sell other brands,, they all say the same thing about warranty issues with Evinrude, no BS, no backpedal, stand behind the product. Hard to argue those points.
I think you have your answer. BTW, I'll be by when it is time to change the F250s on my Marlin......
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Originally Posted by In Agreement View Post
I'm in a conundrum on what to do. I currently have a 2004 Yamaha F225 with 1200 hrs on it. It's mounted on the back of a Grady-White 228 Seafarer, just bought this package back in April. I've had all the exhaust done and some other parts replaced. Motor runs fine the best I can tell.

I work for a Evinrude dealer and the Evinrude rep has been working with me on pricing of a new 250 HO G2 and digital controls. I've also been working with my Yamaha people on pricing out a new F250 with digital controls.

Cannot make up my mind, one minute I'm staying with Yamaha because that's what Grady's are supposed to have, the next I'm looking hard at the G2, torque, fuel burn, little bit lighter, 10 year warranty and no BS about warranty issues and I work on them as a certified technician. Seems cut and dried, but I'm still going back and forth.

What to do, what to do?
If what you say is true, then you probably know more about a G2 than any of us besides seahorse. That makes me nervous because I wonder if you know or see things that we do not. Why else would you consider paying the Yamaha premium? I am just trying to wrap my head around why a BRP mechanic with above average access to sales and warranty people would go buy the higher maintenance, lower testosterone, lesser performer, middle of the flock of sheep-looking aesthetics competitors outboards.

In other words, is there a better reason for buying the grey bubble other than that is what all the cool Gradys are doing?
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Some of you guys are delusional.. I could understand if the F225 is having issues, but if it's running well replace it?? Especially after dropping that coin on a exhaust fix? Would you replace your car engine after 100,000 miles after replacing the exhaust system??
To each their own I guess..
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Originally Posted by paulyjsob View Post
Some of you guys are delusional.. I could understand if the F225 is having issues, but if it's running well replace it?? Especially after dropping that coin on a exhaust fix? Would you replace your car engine after 100,000 miles after replacing the exhaust system??
To each their own I guess..
I can't speak for the Op, but it may have somthing to do with him selling the engines.

His dealer may have a few Yamaha demos already, and by the Op getting a G2 he may use his engine as a demo for potential clients.
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I can't speak for the Op, but it may have somthing to do with him selling the engines.

His dealer may have a few Yamaha demos already, and by the Op getting a G2 he may use his engine as a demo for potential clients.
Then it makes sense.
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If what you say is true, then you probably know more about a G2 than any of us besides seahorse. That makes me nervous because I wonder if you know or see things that we do not. Why else would you consider paying the Yamaha premium? I am just trying to wrap my head around why a BRP mechanic with above average access to sales and warranty people would go buy the higher maintenance, lower testosterone, lesser performer, middle of the flock of sheep-looking aesthetics competitors outboards.

In other words, is there a better reason for buying the grey bubble other than that is what all the cool Gradys are doing?
Don't be spooked by my reluctance to go G2. Grady's back in the day could be rigged with whatever motor you wanted, now it's Yamaha with a serious incentive I'm sure to run them exclusively. As are many other manufacturers that are running Yamaha only. It's all perception as looking at a late model Grady, it's supposed to have a Yamaha on the back. I do as much of my own maintenance as possible, just don't have access to Yamaha software.

Honestly, I'm looking at this from a consumer standpoint. It's my personal boat and motor. Yes I work at a dealer that sells both Evinrude and Mercury. I've had and ran J/E, Mercury, Yamaha. We have only sold 1 big G2 rigged on a toon that went to Missouri, sold two of the smaller G2's rigged also on toons. It's taking awhile for them to catch on here in Kentucky. They are too new to have had had any issues arise, although things can happen out of the box. I can attest to the no BS on warranty issues from a G1 standpoint, never a problem. My Yamaha experience is with older, out of warranty motors so all problems and fixes are on my dime. From reading on the internet, which we all know if it's on the net, it has to be true, reading about Yamaha being a struggle to get them to take responsibility for a defect or issues with a motor under warranty. I do know of a friend that had a water intrusion issue with his Yamaha and they did help him, but instances like that seem few and far between. As I said earlier, other technicians that I've talk with that deal in other brands that we dont, all have said Evinrude warranty issue are not an issue. As far as me having an inside scoop on Evinrude, maybe, but I'm truly not hearing anything negative about the G2's, a few have had their issues but they get them resolved. I've been on the Evinrude owners forum and seen the issues, again most seemed to be resolved or found to be something other than the G2 itself.


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Some of you guys are delusional.. I could understand if the F225 is having issues, but if it's running well replace it?? Especially after dropping that coin on a exhaust fix? Would you replace your car engine after 100,000 miles after replacing the exhaust system??
To each their own I guess..
I understand your point. My truck has 167K and if it lays down, I can get out and walk, my newly acquired boat/motor that I bought with 1190 hrs, that now has 1220 before I put it away with new exhaust, if something else goes down and I'm offshore, there is no walking back. Yes I know a new motor can lay down also. Chances are it won't for many years as will the 225 possibly but it's all an unknown, new or old.

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I can't speak for the Op, but it may have somthing to do with him selling the engines.

His dealer may have a few Yamaha demos already, and by the Op getting a G2 he may use his engine as a demo for potential clients.
We are a Evinrude and Mercury dealer, no Yamahas sitting around. Yes, part of the deal would be me demoing my setup to potential G2 buyer for a couple of months, which being on the water on my boat is a good thing. Payed to play.
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Don't be spooked by my reluctance to go G2. Grady's back in the day could be rigged with whatever motor you wanted, now it's Yamaha with a serious incentive I'm sure to run them exclusively. As are many other manufacturers that are running Yamaha only. It's all perception as looking at a late model Grady, it's supposed to have a Yamaha on the back. I do as much of my own maintenance as possible, just don't have access to Yamaha software.

Honestly, I'm looking at this from a consumer standpoint. It's my personal boat and motor. Yes I work at a dealer that sells both Evinrude and Mercury. I've had and ran J/E, Mercury, Yamaha. We have only sold 1 big G2 rigged on a toon that went to Missouri, sold two of the smaller G2's rigged also on toons. It's taking awhile for them to catch on here in Kentucky. They are too new to have had had any issues arise, although things can happen out of the box. I can attest to the no BS on warranty issues from a G1 standpoint, never a problem. My Yamaha experience is with older, out of warranty motors so all problems and fixes are on my dime. From reading on the internet, which we all know if it's on the net, it has to be true, reading about Yamaha being a struggle to get them to take responsibility for a defect or issues with a motor under warranty. I do know of a friend that had a water intrusion issue with his Yamaha and they did help him, but instances like that seem few and far between. As I said earlier, other technicians that I've talk with that deal in other brands that we dont, all have said Evinrude warranty issue are not an issue. As far as me having an inside scoop on Evinrude, maybe, but I'm truly not hearing anything negative about the G2's, a few have had their issues but they get them resolved. I've been on the Evinrude owners forum and seen the issues, again most seemed to be resolved or found to be something other than the G2 itself.




I understand your point. My truck has 167K and if it lays down, I can get out and walk, my newly acquired boat/motor that I bought with 1190 hrs, that now has 1220 before I put it away with new exhaust, if something else goes down and I'm offshore, there is no walking back. Yes I know a new motor can lay down also. Chances are it won't for many years as will the 225 possibly but it's all an unknown, new or old.



We are a Evinrude and Mercury dealer, no Yamahas sitting around. Yes, part of the deal would be me demoing my setup to potential G2 buyer for a couple of months, which being on the water on my boat is a good thing. Payed to play.
A big block G2 would wake your boat up.
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The way I see it, there are 4 main things to consider (overlooking how clean an engine burns and total price of rigging (seems that numbers will be comparable with shopping around)).

1. Torque: Number one because nothing makes more difference on a boat in my experience. The ability to be able to maintain a more steady speed under a range of loads and conditions and at a greater range of RPMs changes the usability of a boat dramatically. The G2 is the king here.

2. Efficiency: I love being on the water and I would probably pay whatever I can to be there, but I am constantly aware of how efficiently I am running and when my equipment can make more happen with less fuel, my enjoyment rises significantly.

3. Ease of use, reliability and longevity: I like the idea of adding 2 stroke oil as needed and not having to plan oil changes. If I was burning a lot of oil I might feel differently but the G2 is super thrifty on the oil as well as fuel. A more attractive maintenance schedule and push button winterization make a big difference. I don't think the G2 has been around long enough to make any hard conclusions about how the reliability and longevity will stack up against the Yamaha, but we are watching closely.

4. Warranty and Dealer Network: The Evinrude warranty is attractive, but it is only good if one can conveniently get to a dealer to support it. One must consider that the Yamaha network is far more developed than the Evinrude. For example, the nearest Evinrude dealer to me hasn't started selling the G2 yet. I was told last year that the concern was being able to properly support an entirely new package. I kind of respect that approach as the closest dealer that does sell and service the G2 is still learning about it.

Not an easy decision.
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Originally Posted by OffshoreApparel.com View Post
Nothing better than a G2 on a heavy Grady! No brainer.

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my boat had the f225 on it and i can't imagine it being mounted to a grady as a single. the torque of the g-2 really woke my wellcraft up. i never realized what the boat was missing until the repower was done.
now that being said i would never go back to that 4s platform. i also run my boat on demo runs for my evinrude dealer when asked. i like showing potential buyers this platform and educating them on the benefits of this motor.
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I guess the answer to the OP is no, at least not on here.
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Something I had never considered regarding maintenance schedules, given that I trailer mine all the time but for those with larger boats who do not trailer or at least not regularly, just pulling and putting in often require time and/or expense. If you have a 30' boat with a 9'8" beam, kept on a lift, you may not have a vehicle sufficient to haul. The trailer may be stored someplace where it must be retrieved. Having a 5 year 500 hour maintenance interval with no need for oil changes is not anything to be sneezed at.
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What prices were you quoted for each? I would go Evinrude since you are a Evinrude tech and you can attest to the quality of the Evinrudes no BS warranty.
X2! If you're an Evinrude tech, this should be a no brainer.
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I guess the answer to the OP is no, at least not on here.
It's not just on here. I've been on the E-Tec Owner's forum as well and as with any product there's a problem here and there; but, nothing really in common like Yamaha's corrosion issue that affected many, just the occasional problem like anything mechanical. One thing everybody agrees on is that BRP/Evinrude stands behind their product.
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A big block G2 would wake your boat up.
If a guy has a car/truck with 300 HP in it, and he never uses anywhere near 300 HP, would it be a benefit to install a 400 HP motor to wake up the car/truck?

Now if boaters are like drag racers then by all means they need an Etec on the back.
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