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Old 12-08-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by midcap View Post
Yep...those are all very good points.

IMO...and it probably would cost just way too much money, but BRP should Take their G2 150, Their G2 200 HO and their G2 250 HO and test them on as many popular boats as possible and publish performance reports.

That would help with what engines performs which way.

Another thing that BRP can do and would help with the transparent pricing is that make the pricing process through their website.

For example, you fill out a form on the webpage, your contact info, your boat make/model and then it goes to 5 closest dealers, you may get 2 dealers close by and 3 very far away, but at least you have a average of pricing.

Dealers shouldn't complain too much about that, because at the end of the day you have three buyers,
1. only care about the price
2. Don't care about the price but customer service is top priority
3. People who are concerned about the price but are also really care about customer service.

Everyone can make money on that process and everyone can make money.
Agreed if you add
4. Reliable, as in NO problems for 10 years or more, does what it is suppose to do.
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Originally Posted by opti250onglasstream View Post
Agreed if you add
4. Reliable, as in NO problems for 10 years or more, does what it is suppose to do.
that always helps
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Originally Posted by xp8103 View Post
Actually I believe that BRP has a device that hooks on to your existing helm and takes care of that.
Really, that's good to know. Hopefully that would be cheaper than a Hydraulic Helm suggested but the dealer to hook up the Power Steering on G2 models.
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Originally Posted by timothyj View Post
lol, that was me. power steering pump seized.
Thatís the only drawback Iíve seen with the G2 their engine their steering. I like the engine but the steering leaves much to be desired.
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Originally Posted by redjonesbrother View Post
Thatís the only drawback Iíve seen with the G2 their engine their steering. I like the engine but the steering leaves much to be desired.
Eh? The steering is ultra smooth and silent and takes 0 effort. There isn't a better steering system out there right now. It's been the 1st thing everyone who drives it loves about it, especially on a trip setup. I can literally drive with one finger.

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Old 12-08-2017, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by redjonesbrother View Post
Thatís the only drawback Iíve seen with the G2 their engine their steering. I like the engine but the steering leaves much to be desired.
Yeah, please expand on this? I LOVE my steering.
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Most normal fisherman simply don't care about a few MPH or some extra torque. They want a high priced engine to last a long time. Not sure if they have them or not but I believe one big thing that Evinrude needs to do is push longevity comparison charts of some sort proving that thier 2 strokes will disprove the long held combustible engine physics that 2 strokes simply don't last as long. Surely the Ficht, G1's and G2's have been around long enough to give some ideas of average powerhead hours when compared to 4 strokes.
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Originally Posted by midcap View Post
Yep...those are all very good points.

IMO...and it probably would cost just way too much money, but BRP should Take their G2 150, Their G2 200 HO and their G2 250 HO and test them on as many popular boats as possible and publish performance reports.

That would help with what engines performs which way.

Another thing that BRP can do and would help with the transparent pricing is that make the pricing process through their website.

For example, you fill out a form on the webpage, your contact info, your boat make/model and then it goes to 5 closest dealers, you may get 2 dealers close by and 3 very far away, but at least you have a average of pricing.

Dealers shouldn't complain too much about that, because at the end of the day you have three buyers,
1. only care about the price
2. Don't care about the price but customer service is top priority
3. People who are concerned about the price but are also really care about customer service.

Everyone can make money on that process and everyone can make money.
Agree for sure, on all points.
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Originally Posted by redjonesbrother View Post
Thatís the only drawback Iíve seen with the G2 their engine their steering. I like the engine but the steering leaves much to be desired.
The steering is amazing, it is part of the appeal of the G2 for sure. It's what makes that rigging so nice too. When you have hydraulic steering and a jack plate, you have line running everywhere, it's a little messy. The G2 is literally one sleek tube. Love it.
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My 2 year old son drives my 4000 pound tritoon at 40 mph. He can turn the wheel hard over easily. He does figure 8's and 360's out in the Lake at WOT. Its like riding on tracks the tritoon tracks that easily.

The steering is power steering. I drove one without PS. Much harder to steer. Actually you cant turn it hardover at WOT.
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Originally Posted by opti250onglasstream View Post
Agreed if you add
4. Reliable, as in NO problems for 10 years or more, does what it is suppose to do.
Long warranty does not equal no problems. Just not having to pay for problems. I know a few people with warrantied motors that couldn't wait to get rid of them.. they just wanted something reliable.
When broken down offshore the last thing I care about is the warranty. Not implying the G2s are unreliable... just that warranty isn't everything..
Made me think of this classic......


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I love that Tommy Boy scene. And I agree on the warranty assessment. I feel that many buyers, including myself, use the longer warranty pitch as a clincher to go with a product that they really wanted to begin with, as opposed to buying the engine simply because it had the longest warranty. It's indeed some additional piece of mind, as in my case I was being pushed heavily towards Yams or Zukes, plus our previous boat has two incredibly strong running 2-stroke Yamahas 200s. I decided on the G2s ultimately b/c they were what I really "wanted" most, I store the boat at the dealers location assuring me the utmost in attention/response/maintenance etc., and Yamahas to their credit unfortunately have a bad history of being stolen in the area of the Bahamas where I use the boat. Oh, and no way I was gonna put gray engines on this black hull and the $5-6k to paint didn't sit well.

As for the G2 steering, it's thus far one of my favorite attributes as well, for several reasons. The feel is great, plus you can adjust the level of assist. But even more important to me, is with this internal system, it cleans up the transom/platform area, and, by inherently setting the engine back an additional 4-6", the platform area grows, which was key for me and the way we use the boat. I could have cleaned or opened it up even more if I'd routed the hoses thru the bracket and lower transom, but just didn't want to cut any more penetrations near or below the waterline of a 31 yr old transom.

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Originally Posted by homeby51 View Post
Most normal fisherman simply don't care about a few MPH or some extra torque. They want a high priced engine to last a long time. Not sure if they have them or not but I believe one big thing that Evinrude needs to do is push longevity comparison charts of some sort proving that thier 2 strokes will disprove the long held combustible engine physics that 2 strokes simply don't last as long. Surely the Ficht, G1's and G2's have been around long enough to give some ideas of average powerhead hours when compared to 4 strokes.
I'm not sure what this long-held physics theory that 2-strokes don't last as long is, but my YAMAHA 2-stroke is seventeen years old, has over 5000 hours on it, and runs perfectly. I run charters on it every week and average about 300 hours a year. And that's my 'newest' 2-stroke......my oldest is a 1968, and I have a 1973, a 1979, and a 1985, all different HP's, and all run just fine to this this day.
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Originally Posted by 270Handiman View Post
I'm not sure what this long-held physics theory that 2-strokes don't last as long is, but my YAMAHA 2-stroke is seventeen years old, has over 5000 hours on it, and runs perfectly. I run charters on it every week and average about 300 hours a year. And that's my 'newest' 2-stroke......my oldest is a 1968, and I have a 1973, a 1979, and a 1985, all different HP's, and all run just fine to this this day.
Exactly, I've honestly never had a 2 stroke I've ever had issue with. 15, 20, 30 yrs old and still kicking. Can't say the same for my yami f225 4 stroke.
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Exactly, I've honestly never had a 2 stroke I've ever had issue with. 15, 20, 30 yrs old and still kicking. Can't say the same for my yami f225 4 stroke.
I call BS on that. Any motor can and will have issues and for you to expect us to believe that you've NEVER had any problems with 20 and 30 year old 2 stroke technology is total BS. Anyone who would say that has opinions that are simply bought and paid for.
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That's a beautiful setup. Love the rigging on the G2s.
All these innovations are a win win for the consumer. Love how the bar is set higher every couple years by every manufacturer.

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I love that Tommy Boy scene. And I agree on the
warranty assessment. I feel that many buyers, including myself, use the longer warranty pitch as a clincher to go with a product that they really wanted to begin with, as opposed to buying the engine simply because it had the longest warranty. It's indeed some additional piece of mind, as in my case I was being pushed heavily towards Yams or Zukes, plus our previous boat has two incredibly strong running 2-stroke Yamahas 200s. I decided on the G2s ultimately b/c they were what I really "wanted" most, I store the boat at the dealers location assuring me the utmost in attention/response/maintenance etc., and Yamahas to their credit unfortunately have a bad history of being stolen in the area of the Bahamas where I use the boat. Oh, and no way I was gonna put gray engines on this black hull and the $5-6k to paint didn't sit well.

As for the G2 steering, it's thus far one of my favorite attributes as well, for several reasons. The feel is great, plus you can adjust the level of assist. But even more important to me, is with this internal system, it cleans up the transom/platform area, and, by inherently setting the engine back an additional 4-6", the platform area grows, which was key for me and the way we use the boat. I could have cleaned or opened it up even more if I'd routed the hoses thru the bracket and lower transom, but just didn't want to cut any more penetrations near or below the waterline of a 31 yr old transom.

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Originally Posted by OffshoreApparel.com View Post
Eh? The steering is ultra smooth and silent and takes 0 effort. There isn't a better steering system out there right now. It's been the 1st thing everyone who drives it loves about it, especially on a trip setup. I can literally drive with one finger.

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Oh it absolutely is, until it quits! Then it takes a grown man to steer it or in some cases you canít steer it at ALL! I LOVE the engine most powerful economical engine on the market today but they can keep the steering
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I'm not sure what this long-held physics theory that 2-strokes don't last as long is, but my YAMAHA 2-stroke is seventeen years old, has over 5000 hours on it, and runs perfectly. I run charters on it every week and average about 300 hours a year. And that's my 'newest' 2-stroke......my oldest is a 1968, and I have a 1973, a 1979, and a 1985, all different HP's, and all run just fine to this this day.
It comes from industry. If and when the life of a motor is estimated then the two stroke will typically have a lesser estimated life than will a four stroke.

Take a look at BRP Rotax, the sister company of BRP Evinrude. They (Rotax) make airplane motors. Two strokes and four strokes. In aviation, an estimated life for the motor is usually provided. Rotax suggests the life of their two stroke motors to be much less, in hours, than they suggest for their four stroke motors.

This is not to say that two strokes will not exceed the life of some four strokes. Some two strokes will outlive the life of some four strokes. All things being equal however, the average life, in operational hours, of a four stroke will exceed the average life, in operational hours, of a two stroke. The pressurized oiling system of a four stroke is probably the major part of the increased life.
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I've seen certain car engines blown up with 50k miles and then I've seen the same engine with 300k.
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Originally Posted by alloyboy View Post
It comes from industry. If and when the life of a motor is estimated then the two stroke will typically have a lesser estimated life than will a four stroke.

Take a look at BRP Rotax, the sister company of BRP Evinrude. They (Rotax) make airplane motors. Two strokes and four strokes. In aviation, an estimated life for the motor is usually provided. Rotax suggests the life of their two stroke motors to be much less, in hours, than they suggest for their four stroke motors.

This is not to say that two strokes will not exceed the life of some four strokes. Some two strokes will outlive the life of some four strokes. All things being equal however, the average life, in operational hours, of a four stroke will exceed the average life, in operational hours, of a two stroke. The pressurized oiling system of a four stroke is probably the major part of the increased life.
So BRP is aware of this aviation based life expectancy for 2-stoke engines, and yet is still willing to offer a 10 year warranty on their marine engines? Sounds like somebody should let Yamaha know so that they can start offering at least a 10 year warranty because they sell 4-strokes which last longer than 2-strokes, yet their warranty is only 3 years.
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