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Old 08-09-2017, 08:27 AM
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I'm the original owner of Mighty Fine, bought it from Palmetto Boat Sales in Charleston in 2013. I had the boat for three years and regret every day, especially dealing with Palmetto Boat Sales.

After first buying the boat and heading off shore, there were problems I could not diagnose regarding water on deck, bilge constantly running, and sluggish performance. I finally noticed, by accident when the batteries failed at the dock prior to an off shore trip, that water was leaking through the transom at the trim tabs, and another thru-hull access port. As it turns out, the boat had several sections of the hull not sealed at the factory (trim tabs, thru-hull pump access, etc.).

Prior to discovering the leaks, I had taken the boat back to Palmetto and asked for it to be investigated. They suggested no scuppers, water backsplash, cooler ice melting and other BS reasons. I continually took the boat for service to have the problem investigated... my bilge was continually running, the boat actually had a foot of water in the hull during one off-shore trip, just to name a few issues I had. Other issues, like the radar, auto pilot, water pumps, steering, chart plotter, sounder, etc all failed during the first year... and were never properly fixed.

Sea Fox eventually agreed to take the boat back to the factory for "reconditioning"... they sprayed it with Salt-a-Way!! Wow... thanks!

Supposedly the boat was repaired by Sea Fox at the factory... and all seals were redone and wiring harnesses replaced, battery connections replaced. None of this in my opinion corrected the compromised hull, as a result of all the salt water intrusion from the first two years I owned it. I was not able to use the boat often during the last year I owned it, due to health, but assumed with Sea Fox and Palmetto assuring me it was resolved, she was seaworthy. Ultimately, because of my health issues, I had to sell it.

I discussed this with the new owner, and he used it often after buying it from me last fall. He also upgraded many things on the boat. Now, with the benefit of hindsight and the tragic sinking, it's clear the early salt water constantly present in the hull whenever the boat was in the water had a long term effect, prematurely aging the boat fittings and ultimately ending up in the hull failing and causing her to go down.

Make your own boat in your backyard before buying a Sea Fox, and don't buy anything at Palmetto Boat Sales, because once they have your $$, don't expect to have it serviced!!
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:43 AM
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I'm the original owner of Mighty Fine, bought it from Palmetto Boat Sales in Charleston in 2013. I had the boat for three years and regret every day, especially dealing with Palmetto Boat Sales.

After first buying the boat and heading off shore, there were problems I could not diagnose regarding water on deck, bilge constantly running, and sluggish performance. I finally noticed, by accident when the batteries failed at the dock prior to an off shore trip, that water was leaking through the transom at the trim tabs, and another thru-hull access port. As it turns out, the boat had several sections of the hull not sealed at the factory (trim tabs, thru-hull pump access, etc.).

Prior to discovering the leaks, I had taken the boat back to Palmetto and asked for it to be investigated. They suggested no scuppers, water backsplash, cooler ice melting and other BS reasons. I continually took the boat for service to have the problem investigated... my bilge was continually running, the boat actually had a foot of water in the hull during one off-shore trip, just to name a few issues I had. Other issues, like the radar, auto pilot, water pumps, steering, chart plotter, sounder, etc all failed during the first year... and were never properly fixed.

Sea Fox eventually agreed to take the boat back to the factory for "reconditioning"... they sprayed it with Salt-a-Way!! Wow... thanks!

Supposedly the boat was repaired by Sea Fox at the factory... and all seals were redone and wiring harnesses replaced, battery connections replaced. None of this in my opinion corrected the compromised hull, as a result of all the salt water intrusion from the first two years I owned it. I was not able to use the boat often during the last year I owned it, due to health, but assumed with Sea Fox and Palmetto assuring me it was resolved, she was seaworthy. Ultimately, because of my health issues, I had to sell it.

I discussed this with the new owner, and he used it often after buying it from me last fall. He also upgraded many things on the boat. Now, with the benefit of hindsight and the tragic sinking, it's clear the early salt water constantly present in the hull whenever the boat was in the water had a long term effect, prematurely aging the boat fittings and ultimately ending up in the hull failing and causing her to go down.

Make your own boat in your backyard before buying a Sea Fox, and don't buy anything at Palmetto Boat Sales, because once they have your $$, don't expect to have it serviced!!
Wow! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:48 AM
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Can't wait to see where this goes.

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Old 08-09-2017, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by C Town Sea Fox View Post
I'm the original owner of Mighty Fine, bought it from Palmetto Boat Sales in Charleston in 2013. I had the boat for three years and regret every day, especially dealing with Palmetto Boat Sales.

After first buying the boat and heading off shore, there were problems I could not diagnose regarding water on deck, bilge constantly running, and sluggish performance. I finally noticed, by accident when the batteries failed at the dock prior to an off shore trip, that water was leaking through the transom at the trim tabs, and another thru-hull access port. As it turns out, the boat had several sections of the hull not sealed at the factory (trim tabs, thru-hull pump access, etc.).

Prior to discovering the leaks, I had taken the boat back to Palmetto and asked for it to be investigated. They suggested no scuppers, water backsplash, cooler ice melting and other BS reasons. I continually took the boat for service to have the problem investigated... my bilge was continually running, the boat actually had a foot of water in the hull during one off-shore trip, just to name a few issues I had. Other issues, like the radar, auto pilot, water pumps, steering, chart plotter, sounder, etc all failed during the first year... and were never properly fixed.

Sea Fox eventually agreed to take the boat back to the factory for "reconditioning"... they sprayed it with Salt-a-Way!! Wow... thanks!

Supposedly the boat was repaired by Sea Fox at the factory... and all seals were redone and wiring harnesses replaced, battery connections replaced. None of this in my opinion corrected the compromised hull, as a result of all the salt water intrusion from the first two years I owned it. I was not able to use the boat often during the last year I owned it, due to health, but assumed with Sea Fox and Palmetto assuring me it was resolved, she was seaworthy. Ultimately, because of my health issues, I had to sell it.

I discussed this with the new owner, and he used it often after buying it from me last fall. He also upgraded many things on the boat. Now, with the benefit of hindsight and the tragic sinking, it's clear the early salt water constantly present in the hull whenever the boat was in the water had a long term effect, prematurely aging the boat fittings and ultimately ending up in the hull failing and causing her to go down.

Make your own boat in your backyard before buying a Sea Fox, and don't buy anything at Palmetto Boat Sales, because once they have your $$, don't expect to have it serviced!!
sorry to hear of your troubles. Can you share what happened in the end (to be abandoned)?
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Can't wait to see where this goes.



With ya on that one! I'll bring the Beer,You bring the Popcorn..
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Old 08-09-2017, 09:12 AM
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So what caused the sinking?

Original owner indicated a "hull failure" but I dont think that was the cause.
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Big bag of popcorn!!
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If I understand correctly, C Town was the PREVIOUS owner of the boat, and not the current one that got to abandon it...
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We owned a 25 foot Sea Fox maybe 15 years ago, it was a couple years old when we got it, but I was not impressed with it at the time. I know that was 15 years ago, but I was glad to sell it and by the 2003 Century that I still own.
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:01 AM
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I own a Seafox 256, I love mine and have had no problems. I guess I now know that if it does ever capsize at least it will float level!
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Originally Posted by C Town Sea Fox View Post
I'm the original owner of Mighty Fine, bought it from Palmetto Boat Sales in Charleston in 2013. I had the boat for three years and regret every day, especially dealing with Palmetto Boat Sales.

After first buying the boat and heading off shore, there were problems I could not diagnose regarding water on deck, bilge constantly running, and sluggish performance. I finally noticed, by accident when the batteries failed at the dock prior to an off shore trip, that water was leaking through the transom at the trim tabs, and another thru-hull access port. As it turns out, the boat had several sections of the hull not sealed at the factory (trim tabs, thru-hull pump access, etc.).

Prior to discovering the leaks, I had taken the boat back to Palmetto and asked for it to be investigated. They suggested no scuppers, water backsplash, cooler ice melting and other BS reasons. I continually took the boat for service to have the problem investigated... my bilge was continually running, the boat actually had a foot of water in the hull during one off-shore trip, just to name a few issues I had. Other issues, like the radar, auto pilot, water pumps, steering, chart plotter, sounder, etc all failed during the first year... and were never properly fixed.

Sea Fox eventually agreed to take the boat back to the factory for "reconditioning"... they sprayed it with Salt-a-Way!! Wow... thanks!

Supposedly the boat was repaired by Sea Fox at the factory... and all seals were redone and wiring harnesses replaced, battery connections replaced. None of this in my opinion corrected the compromised hull, as a result of all the salt water intrusion from the first two years I owned it. I was not able to use the boat often during the last year I owned it, due to health, but assumed with Sea Fox and Palmetto assuring me it was resolved, she was seaworthy. Ultimately, because of my health issues, I had to sell it.

I discussed this with the new owner, and he used it often after buying it from me last fall. He also upgraded many things on the boat. Now, with the benefit of hindsight and the tragic sinking, it's clear the early salt water constantly present in the hull whenever the boat was in the water had a long term effect, prematurely aging the boat fittings and ultimately ending up in the hull failing and causing her to go down.

Make your own boat in your backyard before buying a Sea Fox, and don't buy anything at Palmetto Boat Sales, because once they have your $$, don't expect to have it serviced!!

Wow.....dangerous situation from the start....
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Thanks for sharing, deeply sorry to hear. No one wants to see your brand belly up. We too also purchased from Palmetto. They took great care of us during the purchase process. We bought in SC yet reside in MD so we've never needed them for any service work. We haven't had not 1 thing go wrong with ours in the 300 + hours of use. We've never had any water in the bilge. What was the root cause of failure ?
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Good luck, especially if you have to have it serviced at Palmetto Boat Sales!!!!
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It's still here in Bimini.
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It's still here in Bimini.
Let's see a current pic. Wondering how stripped out or "rebuilt" it is lol
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Let's see a current pic. Wondering how stripped out or "rebuilt" it is lol
Looks the same.
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Fascinating thread! I actually paused at page 6 to re register my epirb. Took all of 5 minutes online. Stark reminder. Thanks to all for contributing.
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Another thing to have some sort of a breaker bar to help with larger thru hulls. Some company makes a fancy version for a few bucks but a decent size aluminum bar works well.
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That was exactly the cause... should have been diagnosed by Sea Fox or Palmetto Boat sales... neither happened. A fitting gave way, no doubt due to the saltwater intrusion and leak around the trim tabs. More irritating and frankly disgusting was the lackadaisical attitude of the dealership and Sea Fox.
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I totally forgot about this thread.........................until now.
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