Reel Screamer

Ok Guys, did my first oil change on my Yamaha F250's yesterday. Used the new Jabsco extractor and worked really well. However, I was unable to get to the filters with the wrench I had. Again, changed the oil and not the filters. So here are my 2 questions.

1. Is it possible to change the filters with the motors full of oil or do I have to drain before removing the old filters? Should I just wait until the next change to do the filters at say another 50 hours?.

2. What is the trick to get to the filters. Someone said that a regular oil filter wrench will work. Is there anything that needs to be removed to get to it? I could not seen to get the strap wrench in the tight little spot and get it on the filter/

Thanks in advance

Anne's Delite

My son has changed the oil several times for me. He removes the fuel filter so an end of filter wrench can be applied to oil filter. He used a inexpensive wrench, however, we will use a Snap-on brand the next time.

JiminGA

We have a F225 and I'm "assuming" the filter setup is similar.
1. Yes, you'll need to drain the oil. I would just get it into a clean container and put it back in after the filter change (Assuming the engine hasn't been run with the dirty filter... I'm "old-school" - I just can't see running clean oil through a dirty filter!)
2. Our full size filter wrench was also too big, but I was able to find a "reduced size" filter wrench at Sear's Automotive Dept. ... worked just fine for us BTW, I also found a oil catch pan there that also doubles as a reservoir for the drained oil. . we drained our engine's oil through the drain plug... the catch pan was only 10 bucks or so as I recall. Easy way to catch and properly dispose later. Hope this helps.

capt.nick

If you have the same set up as my 225F, you can remove the oil filter with a small strap wrench. Just remove the plastic cover to access the filter. If you haven't done it before, be forewarned it can be a mess. I put rags down underneath first, put a zip-lock bag over the filter before removing. There are a few methods to avoid making a mess, but you have to take some precautions or you'll end up with oil spilled. I may be wrong, but I don't see why you couldn't change the filter now. You should only loose what's in the filter and then add what's needed. I can't see running clean oil through a dirty filter. Good luck.

JiminGA

Something that worked for us to prevent the mess.... takes 2 people...

B4 loosening the filter, we used a gallon size ziplock bag .. worked great.. we just formed the bag under the filter area.... one guy holds the bag in place while the other took the filter off.. then just drop the filter in the bag... not a drop spilled

Jeff Freeman

I use an adjustable socket style wrench. Use a 3/8 socket wrench with an extension, it makes it super easy. You can find them at most auto part stores. I put them back on with my hand and a rag, as tight as I can.

go fish

I used a cup wrench and it was a pain and I still made a mess. You do not have to drain the oil if changing the filter.

BigBone

Believe the filter access is different on the 250 compared to the 225...and worse.

Reel Screamer

Yes, the filter is in a different position on the 250. I have seen pics of the 225 on the starbord side of the motor. The 250 is dam near the middle. What needs to be removed? If anything. Again, can't get a strap wrench on it............

RS

Reel Screamer

Can anyone else offer an opinion?


RS

gofishdw

I trimmed the engine up and turned the engine to point to port, drained the oil into a container made to change the oil
in your car. I spread paper around a metal spill pad to catch the splatter. It's messy. When you trim down more oil drains out. With the engine trimmed up and in the center, I loosened the filter with an inexpensive oil wrench- the squeeze and turn type-without taking anything off. I also used a ziplock and it catches most of the oil. I also put oil rags under the filter and the front of the cowling. After replacing the filter, I kept the motor trimmed until I felt all the oil had drained forward and was wiped up.
all of the spilled oil had drained to the front and was cleaned up. The next time, I will keep the motor trimmed down while draining the oil. I think that will cut down on splatter and it will drain with running down the motor.

gofishdw

Sorry about the above stuttering.

fichtion

Well, you gotta love these 4 stroke engines and the "mess" by doing an oil change.

I like to fill the 2 stroke oil, its clean and easy. REALLY.

Good luck with the do it yourself valve adjustments.

FireFly

Not to cause friction but why is that everytime someone has an issue with a 4 stroke you go out of your way to sling mud at the situation? Who cares if someone has a 4 or 2 stroke and if it's easy or difficult to work on?

fichtion

Mostly because of how they are touted on here as the next coming.

I generally agree with your point, but after reading ad nauseum that its not a big deal and easy to do an oil change, I now find it humorous that there are 8 posts describing how to make the job less of a mess.

BTW, it is not EVERYTIME, I do miss some posts.

FireFly

Like I said, I am not trying to cause friction and I do get your point. I had a 2 stroke and it was old, smelled and used a lot of gas but I never had to do anything to it but put gas and oil in it. I'll admit that the 4 strokes do require quite a bit of tinkering but luckily for most of us we can do it pre season and when the season ends.

Reel Screamer

fichtion, If you don't have any useful input on changing the oil on a 4 stroke, then just but the hell out.........

fichtion

OK, I will.

Good day to you sir and don't forget to dispose of those rags and dirty oil properly.

fish factory

Why all the sensitivity? Can't you people take a little ribbing? I thought "fiction's" comments were pretty funny.And yes, I do carefully dispose of the dirty rags properly.

By the way, Have you indexed your plugs lately? What's the latest fuched "up-date"

fichtion

Very good.

I am almost scared to say that the stupid thing runs perfect and always has. As for the indexing thing, the old company had stock in sharpie pens so that is where that came from.

And I do appreciate that you CAREFULLY dispose of the rags properly as opposed to just the lazy effers that dispose of them properly.

At least some one get satire.