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Old 05-20-2017, 08:42 PM
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Didn't get as much done today as I wanted but I had to do some errands and pick up some hardware for the boat.

I started by applying the new decals
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Then I laid out the design for my homemade stern saver
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Pulled out the old transducer, marked off the area for the saver and sanded away the bottom paint. I also epoxied the old mounting holes to fill that in and protect the stern
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And the finished stern saver with dovetailed holes and rounded edges
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Waiting for the epoxy to fully cure in the old screw holes before I put this guy on with some G-Flex 655.

It's supposed to rain for the next 4 days, hopefully not too bad or it's going to slow me down. Tonight I'm going to get all the electronics that are going in the console traced out on cardboard and cut out so I can moc everything in before I start bondoing box board in place. Still trying to find some Bondo resin jelly locally for that portion of the project.
Great idea with the DIY stern saver. I'm installing a new small plotter in my little Whaler and have been thinking about doing it this way.
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Well another day I didn't get as much done as I wanted to. I started off the day flame treating the starboard and giving it a good sand with 80 grit, then whipped up a batch of G-Flex applied it similar to the way the stern saver instructions tell you too, then stuck it to the transom and taped it in place to cure. The only picture I took of this process was about 5 hours later when I took the tape off.
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Then I pulled the old fish finder off the console mocked up the new one as well as the point 1 to see what holes I'd need to fill and re gel coat. Then spent time sanding all the holes into a cone shape and feathering the gel coat out so the new stuff will blend in and taped the underside of the holes and filled them with epoxy.
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While I let the epoxy cure I pulled the old batteries out and headed for Sam's to pick up some group 31 agms and make a stop at pep boys to pick up the Bondo fiberglass resin jelly.
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When I got home the epoxy was dry so I spent more time hand sanding all the console areas that I was going to gel. Then prepped to start color matching. It started raining so I put the cover on the boat and put a halogen light in there so I could keep working... probably where my problems started due to that light being pretty yellow tinted. I mixed away trying to color match and I just couldn't seem to get it right, every time I'd check the next swatch I'd use the light on my phone to get a more natural color light and I just couldn't tell when the yellow or brown die was taking over to get the mix right. Anyway I spent about 3 hours trying to color match and didn't seem to be getting the right color so I scrapped what I had cleaned up the color swatches and wrapped it up for the night... I'll try my luck at the gel coat color matching again tomorrow and hopefully it's not raining so I can have a natural light.
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Another day down, again didn't get as much done as I wanted but still making progress. I spent most of the day trying to color match the gel coat again though I did have to take a couple breaks because it started down pouring and with the cover in the fumes and heat were too much to handle for too long.
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My color match progression after about 4 hours I figured that's as close as I'm getting, props to the guys that can do it quicker and get it closer.
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Then I taped off the area for a sanding guide
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Added the hardener and started brushing, though it was a little rough the color looked pretty decent I thought
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Then while that was setting up I decided to start pulling the steering wheel, helm and cables. Got the cables out no problem. Pulled the center cover off the wheel and took the nut off easy. Pulling the steering wheel on the other hand was not coming out, sprayed some penetrating oil on it, beat it a bit put some more oil on it and decided to let it soak and start sanding the gel.

I was pretty disappointed to see after sanding that the gel coat turned almost a grey color... not sure why but oh well the holes are filled
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Spent a few more minutes trying to pull the steering wheel but it wasn't budging. Since it was getting dark and starting to rain again I decided to pull the rod lockers out so I can work on getting the led strip lights installed tonight or tomorrow morning.

Any tips on getting the steering wheel off? Might go pick up a puller, not sure if I should get a wheel puller or what... any suggestions?
Old 05-23-2017, 08:29 PM
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Today was fairly productive considering the rain and thunderstorms all day. I started the day off with the rod lockers.

Marking out slots for the led lights
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Dremeled the slots out
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Cut the light strips to length then applied them to some outdoor 3m doublesided tape
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Wiped the rod lockers down with alcohol, Pulled the leds through the slots and pulled the backing off the double sided tape and stuck it in place.Name:  20170523_115637.jpg
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After getting the lights in I had to test them out in the garage... man these things are sweet!
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After that was done, I got busy in the boat pulling the old panel out and the old radio/vhf box out of the helm. I also disconnected all the wiring and engine harness though didn't pull it out because it was raining so hard I didn't want to take the cover off the back of the boat. I did bring the panel in the house and pulled the gauges off the old panel, cleaned them up and installed them on the new panel.

Out with the old
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In with the new... don't mind the empty hole, that's where the tab locator is going to go whenever it's not on backorder any more.
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I finished up the day with a run to auto zone to pick up a puller because despite my best efforts I could not get the steering wheel to budge. The puller made short work of it. Unfortunately the key is still stuck on the shaft so I couldn't pull the cover off to get to the bolts to remove the unit. I sprayed it down with some penetrating oil, hoping it will come off tomorrow as I'm trying to save the cover plate because it's an angled one and the auto pilot kit came with a 90 degree. Worst case I dremel a small key way in the cover to pull it off.

Hoping it doesn't rain so much tomorrow so I can get the wires pulled all the way out and start building the new harness.
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Another productive day down, I think I'm still on track to have this wrapped up this weekend but I'm probably underestimating pulling and labeling the new wire. Happy with how much I got done today despite the heavy rain and thunderstorms yet again.

Started the morning off figuring out how I was going to get the cable steer unit out and save the angled cover. I had it soaking in pb all night to loosen the key up hoping I could hammer it out today. That didn't work out, so instead of drilling a key way in the cover I just took a grinder to the key. I'd say someone didn't grease it before they installed it because it was pretty much welded in.
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The helm looks empty with all that stuff gone
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Next was to pull all the old wire out. I thought it was going to be a simple task and all the prep was done, I was wrong. Turns out the factory install all the wires bow to stern going to one connector plug and I didn't have pin removal tools so my hopes of leaving the bow nav lights alone turned into those are getting re wired as well. Again thinking that wouldn't be a problem I was proven wrong.

For some reason the factory zip tied the wires to the bottom bolts of the bow rails while it was still in 2 pieces, so I had to get creative to create a tool to cut the zip ties and reach about 5 ft up from the nearest access. That took about an hour and a half. Then thinking all the main wire run was just laying on the floor wires still wouldn't pull to the stern. Turns out yet again that the main harness was pulled and zip tied while the hull was still a 2 piece. Again had to get creative to reach and remove said zip/mounting ties. But finally I won the battle and had all the wires removed and a few wire pulls installed.Name:  20170524_171735.jpg
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Next I needed to make the old helm e box hole bigger to fit the new box. I taped off the area and double checked all the measurements.
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Then I put the jigsaw to work... man it feels weird cutting bigger holes in your boat.
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Took a deep breath and busted out the 1 7/8 forstner bit and went to town.
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After that I double checked the fitment of all the new panels and cleaned up for the evening. I know doesn't seem like a lot for a full days work but that wiring was a pita. I also found that all the grounds for the old harness all went to one termination point and were all soldered and crimped together with no shrink wrap or electrical tape... bare ground wire floating around below deck. No wonder I had so many electrical problems when I hit waves and bounced around.

The next few days have a low chance of rain so I should be able to take the cover off the boat and get a lot more done. Until tomorrow's update... cheers
Old 05-25-2017, 08:57 AM
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Lots of good work done there, way to stick to it.
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So many jobs that took 4 hrs in mind but two weeks in real job time
Old 05-25-2017, 07:32 PM
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More progress today still hopeful to have this wrapped up Saturday evening so I can enjoy the rest of my vacation back home in Michigan with family for a week. Late last night I remembered that I had forgotten to drill holes for the livewell lights so I started my morning with that. Unfortunately I forgot to take in progress pictures and didn't remember until I was wrapping up for the night.

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Then I needed to figure out where in the t top I was going to drill for the two spreader lights and the fold down anchor light so I mounted the lights and chose a wire run location and drilled away.

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Then I needed to install the universal rails for the radar so I took some time making sure the spacing was correct and marked everything off and again drilled away.


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Once those were installed I also installed an led courtesy light to replace the florescent one that was there. Then I took a bit of time running wire pulls to all the t top accessories. Thankfully some 80lb braid tied to a cotter pin and a magnet made the job a bit easier.

After that was all done I vacuumed up the boat and realized that I forgot to get a couple sizes of wire crimps so it was back to west marine lol. After I got back, i remembered that I wasn't done drilling holes and I needed to drill a wire run and mount holes for the hds 9 ram mount I was setting up to do that when I realized I needed to double check the clearance under the helm since the e box was mounted below where the ram mount bolts were going to go. Glad I checked because I ended up having to adjust where I was going to put it. Of course nothing can be easy, set up to drill and the windscreen was in the way, so I had to remove that... Then back to drilling

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I think that's all the holes I need to drill... I'll probably remember something tomorrow lol. I also decided to plastidip the artec battery tray since it was bare metal. Shot it with some etching primer, let that dry then 2 coats of paint. That should keep it from rusting and it shouldn't be as conductive now.

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I also remembered that I forgot to run a wire pull for the port rod locker leds, so I ran that and an extra down the starboard side for the main wire run.

Should be all set up for bondoing the pvc boards tomorrow and building most of the wire harness and learn how to use the brady bmp21 labeler and start pulling wire until tomorrow cheers
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More progress again today. I didn't take pictures as I was just bouncing around trying to knock out as much as I could.

Got the auto pilot steering unit, switch panel, helm e box installed. I got everything in the console mocked up and most of the wire harness built.

Tomorrow is going to be a long day of pulling wire and installing equipment. Hopefully I've set myself up well to finish tomorrow. Cheers
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Again no pictures, also not even close to finished. I got all the mounting boards in with the fiberglass resin, that stuff is legit! Also finished building the wire harness. Installed the radar and attempted to pull the t top wires through... spent about 2 hours attempting to get them through right but it just wasnt happening. Going to try again tomorrow but I don't think I'm going to finish the re wire by tomorrow... everything that should be easy, isn't and ends up taking way longer than you'd think it would. My hope now is just to have all the wires pulled and equipment mounted. Then take a trip to MI until Friday and try to finish the re wire next weekend. Cheers
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post some pics. there are lots of tricks for pulling wires. a helper helps. sometimes pull one way then pull the other. Also lube. I think even HD sells silicone gel lube for wire pulling.
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Looks like you are doing a excellent job. I also have a seafox, I was wondering where you got the gauge panel. It looks like the original What I am looking for is a replacement set of switches like the row at the bottom of your panel. I would like to switch over to rocker switches instead of the switches with the rubber covers.
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Looking good. Where did you get the carbon fiber looking dash panel from?
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I got the panel made at new wire marine. I measure everything off my old panel did a cad drawing to play around with how I wanted everything and sent it to them. They tweaked it a bit and we went back and forth about 2 or 3 times with revisions and checking measurements etc then I have them the go ahead and about a week later I had a beautiful panel. It's also back lit but until everything is wired up I won't get to appreciate how bad ass I picture it looks.

I was finally able to get the wires pulled through the t top. Just had to pull them in a different order. Very tight fight on the down pipe though with the radar cable... I wanted to make the holes bigger but didn't have anything bigger than way was already there. Made it work though, just need to figure out how I'm going to get the grommets seated though.

I also pulled the nav lights and the main battery cables and installed the batteries. Didn't want to but my stupid hoa already sent me a nasty gram about the boat being in the driveway and since I'm driving up to MI for a few days I needed to get the motor up to tow it to storage. I tried the manual lift plug but it just went down and I couldn't lift it up so hence the main wires lol.

The rest should be pretty straight forward. I have to connect and run all the pump wires and the fuel sending unit wires, then install all the boxes and hook everything in the console up. I think it'll take me longer trying to make the wire run look pretty than it will to finish up the rest. Until next weekend cheers
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Enjoy your vacation-from your boat, nice to work with your hands and accomplish good things-no matter how time consuming! Good luck!
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Another weekend down and still not done... Saturday I only worked on the boat for a few hours since I slept most of the day after the 15 hour drive back from MI.

I was able to get the 3d transducer and the skimmer installed, all the boxes are mounted in the console, all bilge wires are connected and ran to the console, installed a fuel flow sensor and the console wire harnesses have been built for the most part. I also got the battery charger all wired into the outlet plug as well as get the radar cables re crimped with the rj45 and wired.

I spent some time today figuring out how to wire the bep 701 up to my battery switch on the console since I have 1 switch for the start and house battery, still need to play around with that to verify I did it correctly.

I'm pretty much down to just hooking everything up in the console and making it all look pretty and tidying up the wires in the bilge. Back to work tomorrow so I'll only have a few hours a night to finish up this week before I head out on business again next week. I'll try to get some more pictures this week of the progress. Cheers
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Back at it this weekend and of course it rained most of the day. I was still able to get a clam shell installed, the point 1 installed, the 701 remote cluster installed with all connecting wires, all network cables installed, and made wire harnesses for the battery switch to wago connector and emergency tie switch to wago connector.

Depending on the weather tomorrow, I should be able to get everything else hooked up and make the wire runs look all nice. I also have a new stator and regulator/rectifier to install. Then I'll power everything up and make sure I have all the latest software versions on everything and give the boat a good wash and wax. Hopefully I'll get a chance to put her on the water and get the auto pilot calibrated and the radar dialed in and get a pitch measurement so I can get both transducers dialed in.

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Great thread. I didn't read all of it but here are some of my concerns if they have been addressed.... well good.

Put your bilge(s) on a separate circuit that is always HOT (Direct to battery Fused). 1500 GPH require a 15A Fuse.
Connect your Bilge to a Start battery, NOT house. If your bilging that much you go more problems than starting a motor.

The LED strips you are using. Put them in a clear PVC hose and seal the ends.. Water WILL get in them. It just does...
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Umm yeah obviously didn't even look at page 1 or any of the wire diagrams. My bilge pump is connected manually as well as powered by a separate 24hr circuit with an ultra switch. As far as led lights go... I didn't buy cheap junk off ebay... the leds are ip67 rated any all open terminals will be adhesive shrink wrapped.
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Originally Posted by jrybicki View Post

- replacing Pioneer radio with Lowrance SonicHub 2 (Do you recommend getting the universal dock or the sirius wx ant?) (Purchased)
I put in a Sonichub2 and I love it. I did not get the dock. I use bluetooth, I set my sonichub volume at 75% and I use an iPhone to stream Spotify, the volume on the phone controls the volume coming out the speakers. The docks I have had in my cars/boats become outdated as new model devices get into the market, or you have to buy some new $100 part to make the new phone fit.

One nice feature I didn't know about, when someone calls my iPhone the name shows up on my NSSevo2, I miss less calls on the water, or should I say, I knowingly ignore more calls on the water now.

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