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Old 11-18-2016, 08:27 AM
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Default Forced to repower - what would you buy?

My 2002Yamaha F100 motor has overheated and is now useless for powering my 19’cc. For repower, I’ve contacted severallocal and semi-local dealers.

On thetable are:
New 2012Merc 115 hp $8850 fully rigged
New 2016Yamaha F115 $9850 fully rigged
New 2016Yamaha F115 $11000 fully rigged AND 6 year warranty (if I pull the trigger NLT22 Nov)
NewSuzuki DF115 $10565 fully rigged
NewSuzuki DF140 $11800 fully rigged

As a somewhatnew boater, I cannot claim to have any experience with repowering a boat.

I appreciateany educated guidance, comments, recommendations that you smart boaters on thissite may be willing to share with me as I work to make final decisions.

Thanks inadvance!
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:32 AM
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I personally think any of those motors would serve you well. You may want to factor service into this decision . Buy local and build a relationship with the dealer/service. Unless you plan to do the service yourself.
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Kind of surprised that the Yam 115 is cheaper than the Suzuki. Are they planning to reuse the rigging?
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Is it normal that a Yamaha F115 is cheaper than its Suzuki counterpart? I thought Suzuki was having success in repower market because they were coming in lower than Yamaha?
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Ive heard really good things about that df140

Merc 115 vs the F115 would be my next choice
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For the extra $1,150, I would go with the Yammy with warranty.

*Disclaimer - I am a Yamaha guy so the advice is worth what you paid for it.
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The Yam price is including new rigging. Dealer says they won't know what they can reuse til they work on it. So minus appx $1500 if they reuse complete existing rigging.
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Before investing on a re-power make sure its a boat you are going to keep for a long time (at least 3-5 years). If not, I would look around craigslist for a low hour used that you can sea trial and move over to your boat. you should be able to find something used for $2-3k with very low hours.

also, have you looked at just replacing the powerhead on your existing engine?
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:52 AM
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thanks all for the help. I need it.
barclayrl........new to this. from what I've read on the boards here, it does not appear that many trust a rebuild. I expect to keep the boat for at least another 6 to 8 years.
Am I wrong to expect that not too many shops want to install a used motor that they're not selling you? just wondering......thx
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2012 Mercury is a different engine and not very desirable. 2016 is the new 2.2 liter block from Mercury.
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In my experience - your statement is somewhat correct. The old Merc dealer I worked with in the past wouldn't install engines unless they sold them to you... BUT I guarantee there are some shops out there that would do the work on a time/labor basis. In my area, we don't have a Suzuki tech within 50 miles so I wouldn't go with that for only that reason. so whichever brand you use make sure you have someone you trust (or think you can trust) to take care of the engine should you have a problem.

I am a converted Yamaha guy myself and I would go for that 6 year warranty deal. 2nd choice would the the Suzuki DF140. I am also not sure why the Suzukis are coming in higher..
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Yamaha .. You have to decide if the 6 year warranty is worth it to you. I can tell you a new starter for a 200 v6 Yamaha is over 500 bucks.. It's 4 years old !
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Depends a bit on your comfort with the mechanic who is doing the work. It's more than just the motor. In my case I repowered my 1999 GB 260 from Suzuki 150s to Merc 150 Four Strokes. Have been very happy so far (33 hrs since the change).
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I'd go with the df140 or maybe bump into a df150 if you can very few people ever say it's overpowered.
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I am not sure where you got Suzuki DF115 pricing from but I can assure you we are lower than the pricing that your have here. Before you do anything you may want to reach out to us for some pricing so you have the correct info to make an informed decision.

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If you were content/pleased/happy with the F100 you will absolutely be in love with the F115. Get the motor without the extended service contract and then buy it later from Andy at www.simyamaha.com for less than delta you are being asked to pay now. You can get it anytime before the warranty expires.
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Originally Posted by nc_robbie75 View Post
I'd go with the df140 or maybe bump into a df150 if you can very few people ever say it's overpowered.
In agreement, for a 19' I think I would be looking larger than 115hp if you spending the money. As other posters stated, make sure it's a boat you plan on keeping for a while.
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DF140 would be the smallest engine I would put on a 19ft CC.

If the boat is rated for a 150,
The DF150 first or the Merc 150
There is a big torque/power band difference between the DF140 and the 150.

I ran a DF140 on a 20ft CC for 5 years. No problems, super quiet, smooth power band, easy maintenance. Low on torque, slow to plane times, top speed 39mph at 6000rpm.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:37 AM
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excellent inputs fellas. I was confident I came to the right place for the questions I've got. The boat is rated up to 140 hp. So far I should:
Take the 2012 merc out of the options list (not a desirable year - must be why they still have it)
Highly consider the 115 yama with 6 year warranty - now or later for the warranty
Zuke 115 or 140 hp 2nd or 3rd choice after the Yamaha


Also....called the dealer back on the New 2016Yamaha F115 $9850 fully rigged. I made error on this one. It's not a 2016 Yamaha.....its a 2016 Merc 115 hp
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If it were my boat I would put a new left over on that boat. Here is 2014 for $ 7,770, probably has all the warranties.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...115T-101168969
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