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Old 08-31-2016, 12:21 PM
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Sorry I've been searching here and Google for days. I'm constantly researching my next offshore boat.
Facts: budget 30k
Twin engines
fuel to run 70 miles offshore.
Troll kings, fish AJs, tuna, sail, etc in the north gulf out of Alabama.
24 degree hull. Contender, Reg, whitewater, fountain, seacraft, seavee, competition all I would take.
With my price range I can get a 23 open contender, 25 contender old style, 25 whitewater, maybe 23 Reg. All great boats. I like a mostly closed transom of the tenders.
So then I started looking at fountain, with the price of them I could get a 29 or even a 31te fountain CC for 30k or under.
Question: Would y'all get a 23 or 25 contender //// or a 29 or 31 fountain????
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You mentioned 24 degree V. Did Fountain ever make a 24 degree V?
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Originally Posted by Jlh7600 View Post
Sorry I've been searching here and Google for days. I'm constantly researching my next offshore boat.
Facts: budget 30k
Twin engines
fuel to run 70 miles offshore.
Troll kings, fish AJs, tuna, sail, etc in the north gulf out of Alabama.
24 degree hull. Contender, Reg, whitewater, fountain, seacraft, seavee, competition all I would take.
With my price range I can get a 23 open contender, 25 contender old style, 25 whitewater, maybe 23 Reg. All great boats. I like a mostly closed transom of the tenders.
So then I started looking at fountain, with the price of them I could get a 29 or even a 31te fountain CC for 30k or under.
Question: Would y'all get a 23 or 25 contender //// or a 29 or 31 fountain????
If you find a Contender, Regulator or Whitewater that you can get for $30K, I'm not sure I'd trust the boat and engine to run 70 miles offshore. Then again, maybe the used boat market down in AL is more depressed that I see here.

You probably can find some 29/31 Fountains in that price range, but ask yourself why so cheap, then look up all the Fountain rebuild threads.

I don't mean to pee in your rice krispies, but if you want something you can rely on to get you 70 miles out and back, you might need to up your budget to $40-50K
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Might check out the 24 Albemarle CC, same hull design as a lot of the older Sea Vee, Contender, Whitewater boats. They're not as expensive used but are built like tanks.
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Yea first not sure of the fountain deadrise but heard they will run at a damn good speed through 3's. I was just referring to any quality boat with a basically 24 degree hull to run at a good pace for long offshore runs.
And all very good points man. Thanks. I honestly hate fountains and never considered them but the price is what surprised me. And sure they crap and not real fish friendly but everywhere I read it says that will absolutely run in slop.
I ran a 21 contender and captained a 36 for a while and love those boats. The 23's are hard to find but seen them for 28k with hpdi's. 25's are harder to find but seen a few older ones right at 30k with hpdi's. But your right id love to step up my budget but just can't after buying a house and getting married next year. Will be buying boat this winter but I research everything I do and want to decide on what to get. Anyone own the old 25 or old 31 fountain? As long as inspector checks hull inside and out which one would y'all go with if in my shoes
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Scflats I have checked those as well but seems most are inboards and just prefer twin outboards
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http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sa...-hawaii.html#b All it needs is newer power.
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Scflats I have checked those as well but seems most are inboards and just prefer twin outboards
Not too many around but I found a couple and were very solid boats for reasonable prices. Just picked up a '97 with bracket/OB and it has an incredible ride. They built them for a couple of years with outboards. Good luck with the search!
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Originally Posted by scflats View Post
Not too many around but I found a couple and were very solid boats for reasonable prices. Just picked up a '97 with bracket/OB and it has an incredible ride. They built them for a couple of years with outboards. Good luck with the search!
Thanks man. Where did you find her?
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Don't he afraid of a 31 fountain. That's the original offshore fishing machine, they are cheaper because there was a sh!t ton of them sold back in the day. Supply vs demand, get it surveyed. Then outrun all the other manufacturers you just mentioned.
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I appreciate the info man. Yea at the least I could get a 29 but seen plenty of 31s under 30k. Honestly all I've read is that they fly. They need some special input from the capt. and a lot more to do to keep her running clean but all good things with me. They have wood in them but as long as it checks out dry it seems very tempting. 31ft that will run 40 in seas compared to a 23ft or possibly 25ft. It's just so much more boat even with the narrow beam and not perfect fishing layout.
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I appreciate the info man. Yea at the least I could get a 29 but seen plenty of 31s under 30k. Honestly all I've read is that they fly. They need some special input from the capt. and a lot more to do to keep her running clean but all good things with me. They have wood in them but as long as it checks out dry it seems very tempting. 31ft that will run 40 in seas compared to a 23ft or possibly 25ft. It's just so much more boat even with the narrow beam and not perfect fishing layout.
I had a 29 walk around step hull with a single. It would cruise at 45-50 all day long. It loved 50, but you burned significantly less fuel at 43-45.
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Might check out the 24 Albemarle CC, same hull design as a lot of the older Sea Vee, Contender, Whitewater boats. They're not as expensive used but are built like tanks.
Yes, any of these Don Aronow derivitive hulls, Fountain also included, will be 24 degree deadrise hulls.
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I'm back and forth. The classy better choice 23 contender type or the more trashy uncertain lot bigger 31 fountain???

Also anyone know what was the first year of the contender 23 tournament. Can't find that info. Guy is selling a 95' 23T and curious on what was the first year of the tournament?
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Originally Posted by Jlh7600 View Post
I'm back and forth. The classy better choice 23 contender type or the more trashy uncertain lot bigger 31 fountain???

Also anyone know what was the first year of the contender 23 tournament. Can't find that info. Guy is selling a 95' 23T and curious on what was the first year of the tournament?
im 99 % sure there was no 23 t untill the mid 2000s
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i wouldnt overlook hydra sports. built like a tank and has 24 degree dead rise
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The contender is going to be hard to find at that price range but if your buying in the winter and your quick to jump on a deal you can do that on a 23 or an older 25 open.

I'm still not exactly sure why the Fountains just don't hold their value, I'm thinking the lack of being a fish ready for most is the problem. The hull is great, lacks storage and because of the beak fish smaller than some others around the same size. IIRC the 31te is a cuddy which kills the value in Florida, which can bring prices elsewhere down too.
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Yea don't remember any 23t before 2003 maybe but could be wrong. And I don't mind hydrasport but I'm used to contender and prefer them. Would love a 23t or 25 tender but that damn 29 or 31 fountain is in the back of my mind with them being just such bigger boats. Will be buying in winter, no hurry to buy, and willing to travel literally anywhere for a good deal. Holler if y'all hear of anyone who by chance has fished a 29-31 fountain and a 23-25 contender.
Might have to later on start another thread of comparison and see if anyone has. Basically I combine the 23-25 contender, whitewater, seavee, etc together with their similar hull and then compare those to the 29-31 fountain.
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Don't forget the "Competition" center consoles, that are currently being built in Miami. They are just the latest old 23 Formula popped hull, but everyone seems to really like them. They are available in a couple different lengths & of course they are the Aronow 24 degree bottoms for that great ride. Not the fastest CC out there, but I think the pricing on the new boats is whats reeling everyone in. Check em out. www.CompetitionBoats.net They are on Facebook as well...

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i wouldnt overlook hydra sports. built like a tank and has 24 degree dead rise

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