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Old 07-16-2016, 07:53 PM
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Default drum anchor winch, my rope dug into the spool as my anchor stuck!

I've had the MOST terrible day ever, lost my shimao rod/reel (fall into the sea) and then got my anchor stuck. trying to get it unstuck (I have reset mechanism on my anchor) but it didn't work, so I keep on working my anchor winch and finally the rope broken....

it's a 6mm double braid polyester rope. with 7m of chain and delta anchor!!!!!! I'm FKN spewing right now!

now i'll need new anchor and chain however the rope has dug into the spool sooo hard that harder than the hardest rope. it's not even funny as when my anchor was stuck the rope dug in and it will try to pull the anchor. the tension is soo fkn strong and that rope cost me $60, the rope is broken very close to the chain (was anchoring at 40ft of water).

so pls, is there any way I can get the bloody rope out and save the rope?? I've tried prying it with a screwdriver but it's so hard under tension! it would take over 2000lbs to brake the rope so just imagine the tension. just look at pictures below!!! is there any 'SPECIAL TRICK' to fix it? cos I really can reuse the rope and save $65 of my loses :-(

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Old 07-16-2016, 07:57 PM
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Big assed screwdriver and a lot of wiggling
Old 07-16-2016, 08:40 PM
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guys I am also want to start using reef picks for rock/reef area, but there are mixed answers on if to use chain or not, what do u guys reckon, chain or no chain ? ?
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Get another length of line and tie it on to the end of the stuck one and hook to your car/truck etc and roll forward a bit. you will have to freespool the drum or activate the drop button to pay out line when pulling. Good luck.
Old 07-17-2016, 09:35 AM
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Make a windlass from a piece of pipe.

Trying to pull it out will probably bend the arbor

Take a piece of 3/4 inch pipe 6 inches longer than the spool is wide
Drill a hole in the end through both ends to accommodate a tire iron or large screwdriver. This is your handle
Lay the pipe (now a winch) over your spool, get the rope started and start winding. You may have to drill a hole in the middle to feed the line thru. You can try crazy gluing and after a few overlapping turns it should hold.

OR......................

Cut out the whole mess and get new line
Old 07-17-2016, 10:10 AM
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Can you take the spool off and apart? Might be able to loosen a bit. Might try spraying silicone lube? Otherwise yeah you probably need to cut it out
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Wrong type or line for anchor, supposed to use twisted because it stretches..
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Reading this reply more carefully as I didn't understand the first time. This is the answer. Super smart.


Originally Posted by 54bullwinkle View Post
Make a windlass from a piece of pipe.

Trying to pull it out will probably bend the arbor

Take a piece of 3/4 inch pipe 6 inches longer than the spool is wide
Drill a hole in the end through both ends to accommodate a tire iron or large screwdriver. This is your handle
Lay the pipe (now a winch) over your spool, get the rope started and start winding. You may have to drill a hole in the middle to feed the line thru. You can try crazy gluing and after a few overlapping turns it should hold.

OR......................

Cut out the whole mess and get new line
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Imagine that on a 50 ton wrecker with 3/4 " wire rope.
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For what new rope would cost i would cut it out and not take the chance of messing that nice windless up. Put new rope on and use a bendable reef anchor.
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I would agree with the guys saying replace the line. Forcing it off is dangerous to the winch and yourself and then if you succeed you're left with a line that may have been compromised.
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Originally Posted by Rolngthun View Post
Imagine that on a 50 ton wrecker with 3/4 " wire rope.
I've had it happen on an oceanographic winch with 10,000 meters of .333 inch cable. Big ass screwdriver and a lot of wiggling
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And for after you get it off, throw it away and get the proper sized 3 strand or brait. You are destined for more heartbreak if you don't.
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Originally Posted by greenno View Post
Get another length of line and tie it on to the end of the stuck one and hook to your car/truck etc and roll forward a bit. you will have to freespool the drum or activate the drop button to pay out line when pulling. Good luck.
I'll pay a buck to see the "after" shots of this exercise.
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[QUOTE=vcreation;9248840]I've had the MOST terrible day ever, lost my shimao rod/reel (fall into the sea) and then got my anchor stuck. trying to get it unstuck (I have reset mechanism on my anchor) but it didn't work, so I keep on working my anchor winch and finally the rope broken....

it's a 6mm double braid polyester rope. with 7m of chain and delta anchor!!!!!! I'm FKN spewing right now!

now i'll need new anchor and chain however the rope has dug into the spool sooo hard that harder than the hardest rope. it's not even funny as when my anchor was stuck the rope dug in and it will try to pull the anchor. the tension is soo fkn strong and that rope cost me $60, the rope is broken very close to the chain (was anchoring at 40ft of water).

so pls, is there any way I can get the bloody rope out and save the rope?? I've tried prying it with a screwdriver but it's so hard under tension! it would take over 2000lbs to brake the rope so just imagine the tension. just look at pictures below!!! is there any 'SPECIAL TRICK' to fix it? cos I really can reuse the rope and save $65 of my loses :-(


By the way, to get the rope dug in that far it means you waited far too long to cut your losses on that anchor. In 40 feet I would have let out some rope, cut it, and then tried to yank it out and different angles and by hand.
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Personally I wouldn't use less than 10mm rope, preferably 12 mm for anchoring. As for retrieving the anchor, I always have the anchor tripped, and have been using the Alderney method for years. Easy to do after a couple of practices. Have a look at this video of how to use the Alderney method.


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Make a loop in the line and use a come along or chain jack tied to a tree and slowly crank it out.... something will give
Old 07-23-2016, 08:44 PM
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Your problem is that the line pulled down between the wraps of the rest of the spool. As you already know. So pulling on it may not make it any better. I would take the line and put it either on a round pipe or drill a hole in a smaller spool and put it in the middle and roll it in the opposite direction than what it is rolled on. This should work it back out the way it went in. It will require a lot of force I am sure but if you roll it against the line between the ends of your existing spool of your windlass it shouldn't hurt anything. Like two wheels rolling against each other. But really for the price I would cut it and put a more appropriate line on. Which will probably do the same thing another time.
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Cut that toy string and get a minimum of 1/2" three strand NYLON as already recommended. This is bound to happen again and really risk damage to your boat. On my 30' sailboat I used 5/8" 3 strand nylon and 5/16 HT chain on my 40'. Your anchor rode is there to work not to look pretty.
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Hey folks, it's a little tiny spool. There's no way that he can put enough three strand nylon on that spool to be an effective anchor road.
Everything in boating is a compromise and the compromise of having a nice drum type anchor winch like that is the only effective way to have enough road on it is to use a 6 mm double braid, it works.
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I've had the MOST terrible day ever, lost my shimao rod/reel (fall into the sea) and then got my anchor stuck. trying to get it unstuck (I have reset mechanism on my anchor) but it didn't work, so I keep on working my anchor winch and finally the rope broken....
I hope you realize that there's a lot of lessons to be learned in this scenario because if you don't do things a lot differently next time you're going to have similar problems.
Among quite a few other things that might be done differently, tie your anchor road / line off to a cleat and use your engine to break the anchor out when it's stuck, don't torture your winch.
Gerald

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