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Old 07-05-2016, 11:21 PM
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Default How to tie off to a post cleat?

My finger at my dock comes with a post cleat, I'm not sure how to tie off to it. Do I simply use a clove hitch and the cross piece is there to keep the line from going over the top? Or is the cross piece involved in tying off?

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Old 07-06-2016, 12:19 AM
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Depends if you mean long term, or just for a short time while still using the boat! The type of bollard/cleat makes little difference.
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That's a Samson post. A round turn and three figure eights with the last locked.

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This would be for tying up the boat long term.

How should I do the 3 figure eights and lock?

I just found this Tugman's Hitch, workable long term?

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Treat the Samson post as you would a cleat. First the round turn
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Not like this , if you do this and the line come under strain it can and will bind.


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Now its time for the figure 8s.
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In the previous picture you can see the locking hitch, this has been done with a single figure 8 for demonstration purposes, for any sort of long term tie off youll want to do the recommended 3 figure 8s.
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Thank you Brian, that is what I have been doing thus far but, although it looks as if it will work well on a round Sampson Post, it does not do well on the one I have to use which is a square (4x4) wood post with a rod through it. The line doesn't fall correctly and lock well.

I think I may be best served bu just installing a galvanized cleat.
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How many figure 8s can you get on the 4x4? You could also finish with a half hitch on the post. Can you send me a picture? Im thinking that the 4x4 is squared and doesn't have a chamfer on the corners?
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Yep, might have a very slight chamfer, I'll post a pick this weekend.


thanks,

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Sorry to be late with this, things got in the way. Anyway, here's what I'm dealing with. I'm feeling I may just ask permission to remove it and put a normal cleat in.
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Originally Posted by Recoil Rob View Post
Sorry to be late with this, things got in the way. Anyway, here's what I'm dealing with. I'm feeling I may just ask permission to remove it and put a normal cleat in.
Upon reviewing the planks, I'd not remove your 4X4. It looks like the only thing present that's substantial. Are the pegs in the 4X4 wood dowels, or metal? Getting an auger bit and putting an additional but longer peg (crosspiece) would be helpful since you are actually securing two lines. You could use a larger wooden (hardwood!) dowel or a piece of steel rod or rebar. Metal will rust, but I venture to say it will last quite some time.

If you mount a regular cleat, put it on the side of the 4X4 and be certain to through bolt it with stainless washers on the back side.
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That is a disaster waiting to happen...
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Luckily is only a 16' boat in a well sheltered marina. I am going to be asking to have the planks replaced soon and see what is under there.

The pegs are stainless rods, probably 1/2".

Tying up to the Sampson as one would a regular cleat just puts too much line on the cleat.
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Put clove hitches around the post and don't worry about the bs pin.
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What are being talked about here are really "bits". Yeah, it is called a "bit". A bit is bolted to the deck of a boat. Samson post is a bit that extends down through the deck and is connected to a main structural member of the boat (keel if on the foredeck). Even on a floating pier I would call it a bit.

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If you can't tie a knot... tie alot..
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Those posts look like they go straight down into the bottom and support the end of the finger pier. You can always put your dockline loop over the post, possibly doubled, and adjust on the boat cleats. Or have a loop at both ends if you feel no adjustment is needed once the length is fine tuned.
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Originally Posted by VanW View Post
Put clove hitches around the post and don't worry about the bs pin.

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