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Old 07-04-2016, 07:52 PM
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Default Contender 25/28 Repower - Suzuki 200ap's

This is a bit premature but I wanted to get some info and set this thread up. I have a 2001 Contender 25 Open with twin Yamaha 200 HPDI's. I bought the boat 2 years ago this month. In all honesty I thought I would keep the motors until they both blew up, then rebuild them. They have been nearly flawless. There was no particular reason for the repower to pinpoint, just got it in my head, received a great quote, and pulled the trigger.

While everyone else was out on the boat this weekend I was de-rigging the Yamaha's (I sold them to some really cool cats out of Miami and I'm very happy for them). They have almost exactly 1,000 hours on them. I'm no mechanic and haven't worked on boats much but de-rigging went somewhat easy outside of the 100+ temp. I did most of it myself over 2 days but the yard owner and good friend gave me guidance and helped me with the forklift and unbolting while I was in the bilge.

I should have the new Suzuki df200apx motors installed within the next few weeks.

My inexperience will show here but I had no idea how much rigging, and weight in rigging would come out with those Yamaha HPDI's. I'm also glad Contender's are laid out and rigged so taking things apart are simple. The Suzuki's are ~30 pounds heavier but I still think the whole set-up will be a net loss in pounds. Probably by a long shot considering I always kept the oil reservoirs full, 9 gallons.

Can anyone tell me how many harnesses run the length of the boat for the df200ap's? And the basics of how the throttles and gauges connect? I'm wondering if they connect together at the helm or all have homeruns to the outboards? I'll find out eventually but just curious.

I've searched out just about everyone else I know who has repowered a 25 Open with the df200ap's and a few 27 Opens. It seems the Suzuki 3 blade props have a tendency to cavitate when not set-up perfect. Since KeyWestJack was running 3x23's perfect and has a 27, plus all the other 25's running 23's hitting the sweet spot in RPM's I am going to start with Suzuki 4x15x24. I'm not interested in top speed since I spend about .5% of my time there, but mid 30's cruise with a normal load.

I plan to update this thread with photos and performance numbers as I move forward. Thankful for all the safe returns home with the 15 year old Yamaha's, but it's time to move on...

I left the boat in the water for way too long but needed to for sea trails. It's gonna take a lot of waxing and elbow grease to get it matching the Zukes. I made an F-ing mess!!! Here goes nothing.

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Good luck with the re-power and congrats.. As far as props go I would not hesitate to explore putting Merc props on Suzuki's.. That's what I ended up doing because of the cavitation issues with the Suzuki props. Ken from propgods helped me out and hit a home run on both of my boats. He has a forum on his website.
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Actually that's the first thing I did. Ken agreed with starting with 4x15x24. Although I did explain I wanted to start with Suzuki props since they come with the package. If they don't work I'll ask Mike at international marine what my options are for credit to move to Mercs.
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I just repowered with the same as you and rigged myself. There is 1 main harness from transom to console. There is a short section of harness from each motor which will connect together to the main harness. Once you receive everything, lay it all out and you will see how simple the install is. Took me a couple of hours by myself once motors were hung. Good luck and enjoy those zukes
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Sub'd - looks forward to following - pls post pics of the rigging process
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Jack is running four blades now, I'm pretty sure. He said it's a huge improvement over the threes.

Saw Rick yesterday and he mentioned he was helping you. Definitely a good friend to have in this situation!
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
Jack is running four blades now, I'm pretty sure. He said it's a huge improvement over the threes.

Saw Rick yesterday and he mentioned he was helping you. Definitely a good friend to have in this situation!
I think Jack got 22" 4 blades from Zach who told me through his 3 pairs of Suzukis they all ran better with 4 blades.

I'd be lost without Ricky. I could never thank him enough for all the things he's helped me with on this boat.
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Look forward to seeing the performance #'s
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Is it me or is your rod holder crooked..sorry OCD
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Originally Posted by ono loco View Post
Is it me or is your rod holder crooked..sorry OCD
Haha, I saw that too. I think it must be the photo but I'm going to have to go back and look now.
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Originally Posted by castro210 View Post
I think Jack got 22" 4 blades from Zach.
yep. Zach and I met up at Boca Grande a month or so ago and I let him run my Brave 24 four blades. He was pretty happy with what he felt, but needed a little more RPM so he sold Jack the Zuke four blades and bought Bravo 22's. He said it's like a whole different boat now. In a good way.

Ricky has always been solid. Good guy.
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I just did the same repower and I am running the 21.5 suzuki props I can't really see going any bigger prop for my average load. ran the boat for the first time this weekend put on about 25 hours they performed well
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Congrats on the new power. please post your numbers with the props good or bad.
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Originally Posted by florida martin View Post
I just did the same repower and I am running the 21.5 suzuki props I can't really see going any bigger prop for my average load. ran the boat for the first time this weekend put on about 25 hours they performed well
That definitely is not the norm. I've talked to 2 guys who hit the limiter with the 3x23's on 25 Opens and there is a 27 Open here that is right at the limiter with the 23's as well.

I just talked to a friend that has a set of Bravo 1 24's I may try too.
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Originally Posted by castro210 View Post
That definitely is not the norm. I've talked to 2 guys who hit the limiter with the 3x23's on 25 Opens and there is a 27 Open here that is right at the limiter with the 23's as well.

I just talked to a friend that has a set of Bravo 1 24's I may try too.
they are using the 16 inch suzuki props ? what hole are the motors in I'm on the middle whole
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Originally Posted by castro210 View Post
That definitely is not the norm. I've talked to 2 guys who hit the limiter with the 3x23's on 25 Opens and there is a 27 Open here that is right at the limiter with the 23's as well.

I just talked to a friend that has a set of Bravo 1 24's I may try too.

would agree can hit the limiter with my pair of DF200apx with 3x16x23 Suzuki props on a light load.
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Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
would agree can hit the limiter with my pair of DF200apx with 3x16x23 Suzuki props on a light load.
that's with the 25 open? what hole are the motors mounted in. I put the first 25 hours on my motors this weekend when I went to the Bahamas boat performed great with the 21.5 props may have to see what it does with 23 but I typically always run my boat heavy and it has an oversized console and ttop
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25 engine Hours in a 3 day weekend? Did you refill your fuel tank twice? LOL!.
You're ready for an initial oil change.


Originally Posted by florida martin View Post
I just did the same repower and I am running the 21.5 suzuki props I can't really see going any bigger prop for my average load. ran the boat for the first time this weekend put on about 25 hours they performed well
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Originally Posted by florida martin View Post
that's with the 25 open? what hole are the motors mounted in. I put the first 25 hours on my motors this weekend when I went to the Bahamas boat performed great with the 21.5 props may have to see what it does with 23 but I typically always run my boat heavy and it has an oversized console and ttop

Mine are on an Angler 2600cc, weighs more then the 25open. Motors are mounted in the second highest hole, and I am debating on moving down one more.

We do overnight trips often, run out 100+ miles out and will put 30+ hours on the motors in a weekend. Run extremly heavy on these trips and so far I like the 3x16x23p props the best. Have tried a set of 4x15x23 Powertech, they were not the offshore version. Was not impressed with them, will try the OFS 4x15x23 in the near future.

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