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Old 10-03-2002, 07:54 PM
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Here in NY state center console boats are quite rare... this is small aluminum boat or bass boat territory... CC's are also VERY tough to find or sell.. but a few,, VERY few boaters use them for fishing in the big lakes around here.Go a few hours south or east of here closer to the coast and they are everywhere... I could never understand why they are such a tough sell up here.. Do you think they are at a disadvantage to a bass boat or aluminum open bow in fresh water ?? ... bob
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Depends on the make and brand of the center console. Ranger makes a CC off their bass boat platform (no carpet) that works fine. Most bass fisherman take a ton of tackel with them and want a boat with plenty of storage.Low gunnels are also a plus for reaching down a "lipping the bass". Most CC are designed for near/offshore use so it usually means higher gunnels. Most freshwater fishermen fish structure and use a bowmounted trolling motor. The low gunnels don't catch the wind as bad and the front deck (usually even with the gunnel) has the room for the electric motor, depthfinders, an accessory/controls. Personally, I prefere the CC for the versital fishing (fresh & salt) and the added safety. Hope this answers some of your questions.

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What's the price differeence between a high quality CC and an aluminum bow rider?

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Boat prices are so regionalized: Check out this site.

www.boattrader.com

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They haven't got the word yet. CC have little wasted room. You get to use the whole boat, all the time vs filling the cuddy cabin with stuff you don't use. Plus it's easier to get the anchor up. Now, that their putting a head in the console we have it all. I can now use the boat as a tx deduction! Finally the reel answer is that they are 'precieved' as fishing boat vs family boats...this is changing. I have a 24' CC and people still wonder why I have it; after spending a day...they realize why. Lastly, when standing up the waves look smaller and it's easier on the back. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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If most of the fishing in your area is casting lures, that could be the reason. When I bass fished out of a 17ft. CC, I kept hitting the console's windshield with my plug. I'd get the worst bird's-nest-backlash and spend all my time untangling my line. That's one of the main reasons I bought a dual console nine years ago (Scout 172 dorado, windsheild is lower).
If you're live bait fishing or trolling, the windsheild doesn't matter. Offshore it is nice to be able to walk your rod to the bow and get the fish away from your other rigs (and motor) in the back of the boat, so CCs are preferred.
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Mumblerone, before you take a second home income tax deduction for a 24' center console, enclosed head or not, you may want to get it in writing from your tax accountant that he/she will pay all the interest and penalties if/when the deduction is disallowed.
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I fished fresh and salt water in my Boston Whaler Sakonnet 16 for 14 years. Now I have a Boston Whaler Montauk 17, which I fish in fresh water only.

I have a forward seat and a bow mounted Minn-Kota.

I really don't find the railings or the high freeboard a noticable disadvantage when fishing structure.

I think I would be uncomfortable with youngsters aboard a BassRocket. They would have to deliberately jump to get overboard a Montauk. The same would be true for most good CCs.

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I fished fresh and salt water in my Boston Whaler Sakonnet 16 for 14 years. Now I have a Boston Whaler Montauk 17, which I fish in fresh water only.

I have a forward seat and a bow mounted Minn-Kota.

I really don't find the railings or the high freeboard a noticable disadvantage when fishing structure.

I think I would be uncomfortable with youngsters aboard a BassRocket. They would have to deliberately jump to get overboard a Montauk. The same would be true for most good CCs.

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I think CC's are ideal for inland lakes: Bass boats are uncomfortable as hell. CC's often have vee seating in the bow. Better for kids. More cover during the winter. They'll take any lake weather imagineable. Electronics up and out of the way in a tee top. Easy maintenance. Many, many advantages.

Did I mention that the 94 quart seat cooler holds a ton of beers and food for an army.

And you can take it to the ocean any time you want.

That being said, my CC is on a lake most every weekend, and an occasional weeknight. I'll be out there all winter long.

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Now, on that tax deduction...my wife and I often spend 'quality time' in the center console. That should qualify with the IRS and it has running water too. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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The higher gunnels of a CC inhibits pitching and flipping bass rigs into cover. (I prefer higher gunnels just for safety sake) I'm sure when Stratos, Ranger or Tracker start sponsoring a bass tournement with CCs, you'll see more of them.
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I have a 17' Grady (Spirit175) THAT I purchased back East and brought out to Kansas with me. Certainly, there are better boats for fishing smaller lakes in fresh water, but the Grady is servicable. I removed the bow rail and added a bow mount trolling motor. That makes it a heck of a lot more fishable! Also, it does draw more water than the bass boats. However, lakes in Kansas can get rough and the center console is certainly A LOT safer than a bass boat. I also fish the Gulf of Mexico with the center console; in areas NO sane person would go with a bass boat. All boats are a compromise, I think the CC is a good compromise.

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Lake boats are always run with the operator sitting down. The leaning post or pedestal seats on a CC or bay boat are not nearly as comfortable as the seats in a bassboat. Obviously, this is not true in the case of dual consoles and walkarounds.

I would be the first to agree that a bay boat is more versatile than a bassboat. But the bassboat still has the advantage on storage. Wish we would see more bay boats at inland dealers.

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KCook...I would disagree with the comfort thing. Your dead right when the water is calm...but when the weather picks up, I'll stand any day. Greater visibility, as I said. easier on the back, and those six footer aren't as as intimidating. I think a bass boat is the perfect boat for bass fishing (that's fresh water bass). It is a highly specialized boat. I remember years ago when the weather pick up at a major BASS tournament several bass boat were swamped and lives were lost. Have you ever seen a 'walleye boat'? Very similiar, but much more seaworthy. I'm not knocking bass boats...but I get a little nervous when I see the Thousand Island BASS tournament at Alex Bay; hope these guys don't make it to Lake Ontario. I believe the lake is off limits to the tournament [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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I had a bass boat up until June of this year. I wanted the versatility of a bay boat because I fish both salt and fresh water. I have no regrets purchasing my bay boat. It was like changing from a corvette to a suv where speed is concerned. The trade off is how well it performs in rough water. I love Toledo Bend Lake but when there is a good blow, it makes a 2 to 3 foot chop in bays look like wading pools. I am talking white caps that give very experienced boaters white knuckles. I did get a boat with front and rear decks which is a plus for bass fishing. Not as much organized storage as a bass boat but still plenty sufficiant. IMHO I would recommend a center console to anyone who is not a serious bass tournament fisherman. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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I used an old Robalo on Lake Michigan for a few years. Worked great. In fact I went to a sportfish for a couple years but am going back to the CC. They are the best all around boats for any type of deep water fishing. (As long as you don't fish in 15 footers or 100+ miles out!)


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The ABSOLUTE BEST part of a center console is the tee top! A center console w/o one is not a center console, IMHO.

As far as "comfortable" seats, I'd just as soon not have any behind the console. Leaning post makes the most sense, as I am always standing. It feels great to stand and drive.

With the cooler seat, cushions on the bow storage, and jump seats to the rear there is plenty of lounge area. I prefer to sit on the gunwale and hang on to the tee top as necessary.

Tee tops make the boat.

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I switched from a Pursuit cuddy to a Wellcraft CC back in '99 and I don't ever regret going to a CC. Actually, I'm hooked so much on them, I will probably never own another type of boat then a CC. You don't see many here in the Great Lakes area (too bad, they don't know what they are missing). Maybe someday they'll catch on. I think the biggest advantage is they are easy to fish from. Especially when a King Salmon starts screaming off line and goes left, right, left again, etc. You can follow it anywhere on the boat the fish runs too. Plus, our cabin is big enough to sleep in and qualifies for the 2nd home deduction.
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