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Old 10-28-2015, 07:09 PM
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Has anyone else experienced delaminating fiberglass or air pockets between layers of fiberglass on a Sailfish? I have talked to multiple fiberglass repair shops and they all say its because of the same thing, poor manufacturing. There are light spots you can see in the pictures where some of the glass in between never got any resin, the piece in the picture is completely dry on the inside. I contacted Sailfish to basically just get an answer as to why the delamination was happening and why was there dry resin, and their response, "sorry the hull is no longer under warranty", which is true, I was just hoping for more of a response, wishful thinking. Customer service was terrible and possibly their hulls are built horribly as well. Ill never own another one


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Old 10-28-2015, 07:19 PM
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We ran a 30 CC hard for a three day tournament in the northern gulf a couple years back and the livewell leaning post came completely undone! The boat was under warranty and less than 2 years old and took forever to get repaired! I was not impressed at all with the ride or the way it came apart in rough weather. Others may have had better experience but that is my only experience with the brand. We had a blast that weekend and caught some great fish but the boat was out of commission for a couple months after.
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Originally Posted by ashcreek View Post
We ran a 30 CC hard for a three day tournament in the northern gulf a couple years back and the livewell leaning post came completely undone! The boat was under warranty and less than 2 years old and took forever to get repaired! I was not impressed at all with the ride or the way it came apart in rough weather. Others may have had better experience but that is my only experience with the brand. We had a blast that weekend and caught some great fish but the boat was out of commission for a couple months after.
wow a couple months after? that seems a little excessive
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Big voids. Lazy lay up
Old 10-28-2015, 07:42 PM
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How old is your boat and how long has it been out of warranty?
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Originally Posted by scooter1010 View Post
How old is your boat and how long has it been out of warranty?
It is a 2000. been out of warranty for 5 years. I know you're gonna say "well the boat is 15 years old". That doesn't take away from the fact that there are pretty big dry spots with no resin. Also, the boat has been taken care of and never abused. This is the only picture i have and you can see for the most part its super clean and in very good condition.
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It's a shame they are tainting Moesly's design with sh1tty craftsmanship.

I guess Jim Floyd really is the only one continuing the legacy of the Seacraft.
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No excuse for large voids like that in the hull, small voids in the liner and sharp radii are understandable.
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Originally Posted by RAMRODNEY View Post
Has anyone else experienced delaminating fiberglass or air pockets between layers of fiberglass on a Sailfish? I have talked to multiple fiberglass repair shops and they all say its because of the same thing, poor manufacturing. There are light spots you can see in the pictures where some of the glass in between never got any resin, the piece in the picture is completely dry on the inside. I contacted Sailfish to basically just get an answer as to why the delamination was happening and why was there dry resin, and their response, "sorry the hull is no longer under warranty", which is true, I was just hoping for more of a response, wishful thinking. Customer service was terrible and possibly their hulls are built horribly as well. Ill never own another one



Don't you just love the workmanship that goes into making some fibreglass boats !!!
Its not just one thing that's the cause of what you call delamination its a small list of things but the cause is mostly bad bad workmanship and workers not paying attention to what right in front of there eyes !! and its not just one person it could be a 2 or possibly 3 people at fault !
Why !! just Link all these things together !
Dry glass yes possibly but why !
the glass and catalysed resin sprayed with a chopper gun !!
so that's the operators responsibility !!
then there's the guy/s with the rollers that would have been first quickly rolled with a fluffy rollers t wet out and push down the glass fibres and help wet out the glass so that's now 2 people and maybe a 3rd person with a hard roller would be following close behind !! then maybe a 4th person ready with the roll of Woven glass to be laid down ready to wet out and yet more resin to wet out the woven and a flick of CSM glass over the top and along the edge ! so maybe there's 4 people that should and could have seen what was happening !
How do I know all this ?? because I have stood in that position of a gun operator for many hours doing all those things !! Yes the gun operator should have wet out better and used more resin BUT the other 3 people should have been paying more attention as well !
Its easier to over wet the glass and surface under the woven and roll then wet and bring the excess resin up from underneath than to try and wet out on top and then have to push the resin down through the glass !! IT NEVER WORKS !! ;?
That takes twice as long and is much harder to do than thinking just a little and making life easy for everyone involved and getting a better job !!
Have been in the glassing industry for way to long ,I am now referred to as Sherlock and I practice Composite Forensics and Quality Assurance !!
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Holy cow, Thats pretty extreme and unfortunate. Really the only thing you can do is cut out the bad spot and get to good glass on both sides then glass it back up. I would want to glass it from both inside and out. Use a vinylester laminating resin as it will adhere better to older resins, then finish it off with a waxed resin. Some will say use epoxy but you cant if your gunna respray/ paint that area with gelcoat cause it wont stick. Check for other areas of the boat too and see if its worth your time or just that isolated spot. Realistically you could fix that area for a few hundred bucks yourself and have it be stronger than the original, take your time and lay it up right.
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Originally Posted by cmorreale1234 View Post
Holy cow, Thats pretty extreme and unfortunate. Really the only thing you can do is cut out the bad spot and get to good glass on both sides then glass it back up. I would want to glass it from both inside and out. Use a vinylester laminating resin as it will adhere better to older resins, then finish it off with a waxed resin. Some will say use epoxy but you cant if your gunna respray/ paint that area with gelcoat cause it wont stick. Check for other areas of the boat too and see if its worth your time or just that isolated spot. Realistically you could fix that area for a few hundred bucks yourself and have it be stronger than the original, take your time and lay it up right.

Cost me a little more than a few hundred dollars but definitely on the lower end of how high this could have gone. The company that repaired that section did just what you said, cut the whole section out and got to good glass, he said he could tell the voids are all over. Bought this boat because I was told by a good friend of mine that it's basically a seacraft, well that's turning out to be completely untrue.
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Originally Posted by RAMRODNEY View Post
Cost me a little more than a few hundred dollars but definitely on the lower end of how high this could have gone. The company that repaired that section did just what you said, cut the whole section out and got to good glass, he said he could tell the voids are all over. Bought this boat because I was told by a good friend of mine that it's basically a seacraft, well that's turning out to be completely untrue.
Seacraft mold but not finished like one.
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At least your getting it done right. Even with small voids it could last a very long time. How many hours are on the hull? The area that broke free was probably one of the highest force and flex areas on the boat besides the transom and not glassed correctly and still lasted x amount of time.. I always liked the looks of the sailfish.
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Originally Posted by RAMRODNEY View Post
It is a 2000. been out of warranty for 5 years. I know you're gonna say "well the boat is 15 years old". That doesn't take away from the fact that there are pretty big dry spots with no resin. Also, the boat has been taken care of and never abused. This is the only picture i have and you can see for the most part its super clean and in very good condition.
That's not what I wanted to say. It would have been great to see the manufacturer say they will do the repair for nothing even though it is out of warranty. They don't have to admit that it wasn't built correctly in the first place because it is past warranty but would have gotten some great customer appreciation for that.
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That sucks. And I agree with you, age has nothing to do with quality. Or lack of.

I hate to say it, but in addition to being pissed off about discovering that bad area on the hull, I'd be worried about other areas that they might've made the same mistake. Anyway you can tap, or sound out the hull bottom looking for other bad, delaminated spots? Like you would a transom.
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Originally Posted by scooter1010 View Post
That's not what I wanted to say. It would have been great to see the manufacturer say they will do the repair for nothing even though it is out of warranty. They don't have to admit that it wasn't built correctly in the first place because it is past warranty but would have gotten some great customer appreciation for that.

The person that emailed me from the warranty department and also the business director, who gave me the warranty departments email address both know the thread is here, I emailed them the link to show them other people's opinion on what the problem was because apparently they couldn't "speculate as to what had happened". Well come join THT and these guys will tell ya (:
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Originally Posted by RAMRODNEY View Post
The person that emailed me from the warranty department and also the business director, who gave me the warranty departments email address both know the thread is here, I emailed them the link to show them other people's opinion on what the problem was because apparently they couldn't "speculate as to what had happened". Well come join THT and these guys will tell ya (:
Ask em what they did to correct this obvious issue with their quality control. Oh yeah, and tell em they lost a potential sailfish customer. They better be making a damn good product for the sky high prices they're charging for these boats.
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I always thought Salifish were better boats. I wonder if you can still find that on newer ones.
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i wont be buying a sailfish any time soon. too bad...
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Originally Posted by Pioneer180 View Post
I always thought Salifish were better boats. I wonder if you can still find that on newer ones.
I always considered them over rated and over priced, that's just my opinion

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