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Old 10-28-2015, 08:03 PM
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New member here. About me, im a Yamaha tech, live in Stuart Fl, and grew up in my fathers fiberglass repair shop. Theres not many things i cant do on a boat besides weld. Now onto the important part.
I recently purchased a 1966 John Allmand 23ft Citation. I drove down to Miami to go get it, and thought it was a Formula 233 from the crappy craigslist pictures. But I noticed it wasn't when I got there, but I wasn't disappointed at all either, hull is a near copy but with 22 degree deadrise instead of 24. Also it came original i/o, so it has a closed transom which is nice because there's no unsightly bump out like the Formulas have (sorry guys lol).
My plans for the boat
* turn it into a center console
* build a custom 3 sided doghouse
* bracket with new yamaha 300
* large built in coffin box
* large leaning post livewell/tackle station
* rear sport fish style killbox/storage with fillet table on top

Here's the method to my madness as I know doghouse boats aren't exactly popular in south florida..
I'm tired of getting wet, at least while I drive. When I'm fishing I don't care so much. I'm going to build a custom removable 3 sided plexiglass window for the doghouse so when it's hot and flat I can get some air, when it's rough and cold I can put it up.
Now for my intentions...

I fish hard (or I like to think so) when I do actually fish. I've had beauty queen boats where everytime a lead hit the floor I would cringe..
We'll I'm over it!!
The whole inside of the boat will be sanded fiberglass csm texture with rolled or sprayed gelcoat, (think minimal fairing). The outside, and cap will be nice and pretty Awlgrip though.
My end goal is a boat that gets 3mpg, looks good on the outside, fishable from the inside, with all the nice features, leds, fw/sw washdown, good electronics etc. Basically a classy commercial boat.
I am going to use all composite materials. I've got a few pictures (im terrible at taking time to take pictures during each step, but I'll try more).
Let me know your ideas and thoughts, also I may need help posting pictures
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:51 PM
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sounds like a nice project. I am in the middle of a complete rebuild project on a similar boat. Check out the thread here

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...storation.html

Your situation sounds similar to mine, there is a lot of detail in there that could help you out.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:46 PM
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What's the easiest way to post pictures on here from an android? I want to get the pictures up to date of where I am on the build.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:16 PM
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If you're going to use your phone, there is an App called Forum Runner. Download it, search The Hull Truth, then sign in and it will allow you to post pics and update your thread.

Or email pics to a desktop and laptop and load then for there. Forum runner is nice but for some reason I can only upload one pic at a time. Laptop or desktop will allow you to upload as many as you want at once.

Hope this helps.
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Subscribed. Check out my formula build. Sounds like you have very similar intentions. I don't get 3mpg but I get 2.5 and am happy with my set up. Oh and my bump out is sexy
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Old 10-30-2015, 08:11 AM
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Jerod, thankyou. When I get home today I'll give it a try.

Lobsterman, your build thread was what motivated me to do this hull. Thanks alot lol
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I wanna see what ya come up with for the windows! At that point myself...
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I was thinking something like a hatch gutter designed into the doghouse with a rubber gasket just like a hatch has. I was going to get a piece of plexiglass molded to the shape then use those turn style snaps that are used on higher end eisenglass and canvas enclosures for ease of removal and Installation. That's my untried design anyways..

What I really want to know since I live in south florida and doghouse boats aren't common is why do commercial boats have the windows angled down not just flat??? Maybe lobsterman can tell me
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Harvest Time I will be watching this one close. I have a 1970 John Allmand Citation II hardtop that I also about ready to restore. Looked for a long time for mine. They where ahead of there time in construction on these boats. Hat channel fiberglass stringers, no wood. No foam either, they used sealed compartments as floatation. Cant wait to see some pics, you will be my motivation to get started. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Clamdigger II View Post
Harvest Time I will be watching this one close. I have a 1970 John Allmand Citation II hardtop that I also about ready to restore. Looked for a long time for mine. They where ahead of there time in construction on these boats. Hat channel fiberglass stringers, no wood. No foam either, they used sealed compartments as floatation. Cant wait to see some pics, you will be my motivation to get started. Good luck.
Yep. They are kind of a sleeper boat. I never knew anything about them except I would see them go for cheap on craigslist as if no one wanted them so I assumed they were a low build quality. When I fist saw the boat there was a few open cutouts from thru hulls etc where someone was already starting the teardown and could see how well the boat was built. Later on after tearing up the floor etc I was pleasantly suprised by solid fiberglass box stringers, a hellaciously thick hull layup and a cap that also was solid glass, no core. They reinforced it by gassing a fiberglass "box triangle" to the bottom of the cap to keep it solid. The cap was also THRU BOLTED AND FIBERGLASSED the whole way around... DAMN!. Also after getting to grind into some of the glass and see the quality of the hull layup, it's evident that the guys that built this boat REALLY had pride in what they were building. In my profession I get to tear apart gobs of top tier boats (I work in Palm beach gardens..) and the build quality is on parts or better. I can't think of a single boat that is made today that thrubolts every single bolt, not every other, or every third of the cap to hull joint, then fiberglasses over that the whole way around. I believe I stumbled on a gem of a boat.
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This sounds good. Subd.
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yes I got here before it was finished.
I found a 31 fountain rebirth and was going on for 3 years and I found it when it was complete and had 27 pages.
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I was thinking something like a hatch gutter designed into the doghouse with a rubber gasket just like a hatch has. I was going to get a piece of plexiglass molded to the shape then use those turn style snaps that are used on higher end eisenglass and canvas enclosures for ease of removal and Installation. That's my untried design anyways..

What I really want to know since I live in south florida and doghouse boats aren't common is why do commercial boats have the windows angled down not just flat??? Maybe lobsterman can tell me
They shed water better but honestly I think it is for looks as much as anything. You also get more room on the dash and a bigger roof. You can mount your electronics on the overhead well in front of your eyes as well.
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I thought I had more pictures than that.. I know my friend has a few. I'll get him to send them to me and I will add more tomorrow when it's light outside. As you can see it didn't take me long to pull off the bowrail and pulpit
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Harvest we are twins on the hull and layout so far, cant wait to see the pics with the floor out. Yours looks like it is in great shape. Keep the pics coming.
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Originally Posted by HarvestTime View Post
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I was thinking something like a hatch gutter designed into the doghouse with a rubber gasket just like a hatch has. I was going to get a piece of plexiglass molded to the shape then use those turn style snaps that are used on higher end eisenglass and canvas enclosures for ease of removal and Installation. That's my untried design anyways..

What I really want to know since I live in south florida and doghouse boats aren't common is why do commercial boats have the windows angled down not just flat??? Maybe lobsterman can tell me
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They shed water better but honestly I think it is for looks as much as anything. You also get more room on the dash and a bigger roof. You can mount your electronics on the overhead well in front of your eyes as well.
the #1 reason for a forward raked windshield is nighttime glare reduction....
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