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Old 10-11-2015, 06:13 PM
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Just moved up from a 17ft Sea Pro to a 21/22ft Cape Horn, hopefully if life allows I'll be trailering to the gulf, to begin my adventure of DIY saltwater fishing, probably start chasing Kings, later move to Dolphin, with a 5yr goal of learning how to catch Tuna.

Boat came with an HDS, if I were going to add $1500-2000 on safety gear, would you go with a 3G/4G radar to look to the HDS or add a 4 person life raft? Alreadyhave VHF, backup VHF, PLB, and all the USCG gear, first aid, ect.

I'm partial to the radar for 2 reasons, but open to other thoughts.

First: The radar is something you can use all the time, and can increase your safety every trip

Second: The hull should be "unsinkable" so arguably even if it gets swamped, or has a mechanical failure, it's still a floating object. Only thing I think that would sink it is a fire.
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not to say life raft is no good because it surely is, but 2g is not or barely going to get you a good one, with that being said, Radar is what i would choose, you can use it all the time, i would feel naked without my radar ! fog, early morning departures , night time returns and STORMS. in my opinion Radar is a must if you go offshore
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Radar, no question.
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i do a lot of night fishing and did so for many years without a radar. I have a radar now and cant ever see me not having a radar
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Originally Posted by BoatDreamer View Post
Just moved up from a 17ft Sea Pro to a 21/22ft Cape Horn, hopefully if life allows I'll be trailering to the gulf, to begin my adventure of DIY saltwater fishing, probably start chasing Kings, later move to Dolphin, with a 5yr goal of learning how to catch Tuna.

Boat came with an HDS, if I were going to add $1500-2000 on safety gear, would you go with a 3G/4G radar to look to the HDS or add a 4 person life raft? Alreadyhave VHF, backup VHF, PLB, and all the USCG gear, first aid, ect.

I'm partial to the radar for 2 reasons, but open to other thoughts.

First: The radar is something you can use all the time, and can increase your safety every trip

Second: The hull should be "unsinkable" so arguably even if it gets swamped, or has a mechanical failure, it's still a floating object. Only thing I think that would sink it is a fire.


Both, one does not replace the other.
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Radar, a life raft will take up a lot of room on a 21' boat.
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Radar, a life raft will take up a lot of room on a 21' boat.
Look at a surplus store for a life raft. We have one here locally called sailors exchange. My brother bought a never used 4 man life raft for $150. Its rated for offshore. It came out of a plane that was flying over the ocean. It has a few more years before it expires.

This thing new is over $3k

Do a radar and get a raft this way

Here is where we got it from

https://www.sailors-exchange.com/
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Maybe check around and try to find both used. I purchased a 3-month old $1800 life raft for $1200 back in June. Already had a radar though. You can even buy new rafts for less than $1000, small but will usually keep you out of the water until help arrives.

I haven't shopped new or used radars lately, but you might check Parts Forum here on THT. Good luck

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Look at a surplus store for a life raft. We have one here locally called sailors exchange. My brother bought a never used 4 man life raft for $150. Its rated for offshore. It came out of a plane that was flying over the ocean. It has a few more years before it expires.

This thing new is over $3k

Do a radar and get a raft this way

Here is where we got it from

https://www.sailors-exchange.com/
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Get yourself a Radar AND a EPIRB
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liferaft works well in an orderly abandon ship. not all abandon ships are orderly.
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I've been on lots of boats with standard type radar. I've never seen the capt turn it on. I have been on several boats with XM radar and it was used quite often.

What is the advantage of having radar over XM? You can see bridges at night. I would never navigate at night in places I was not familiar with. I would follow my set of tracks under a bridge and out the channel. Channel buoys are on my chart. Good radar lets you see birds if you know how to read the screen. How many run from spot to spot chasing radar blips? XM allows you to see weather farther away, and how much lightning is in it.

If the goal is to stay safe and avoid hazardous weather it seems to me XM is better for that with it's arrows and symbols. It's easy to read where standard radar requires some knowledge and practice.

I've got a raft and plan to add a $300 XM antenna soon.


edited due to guppy's points:
get the raft now and don't go out at night til you get radar.

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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
I've been on lots of boats with standard type radar. I've never seen the capt turn it on. I have been on several boats with XM radar and it was used quite often.

What is the advantage of having radar over XM? You can see bridges at night. I would never navigate at night in places I was not familiar with. I would follow my set of tracks under a bridge and out the channel. Channel buoys are on my chart. Good radar lets you see birds if you know how to read the screen. How many run from spot to spot chasing radar blips? XM allows you to see weather farther away, and how much lightning is in it.

If the goal is to stay safe and avoid hazardous weather it seems to me XM is better for that with it's arrows and symbols. It's easy to read where standard radar requires some knowledge and practice.

I've got a raft and plan to add a $300 XM antenna soon.
XM won't show you the dredge barge line in front of you in the dark, it wont show the idiot in front of you with lights off, you are talking about two different types of systems. I will never own a boat without radar again, it is way too invaluable IF you know how to use it!

P.S. i do have XM too, that's nice but it wont help me see whats in front of me in the dark or fog.

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