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Old 08-21-2015, 08:05 PM
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Hi everyone. I have kind of a strange question. On my own boat, am I legally considered the captain (or do I call it skipper)? I am on Lake Ontario, NY.This is to end a debate between myself and some friends. One of them says that without an actual captains license I'm not the captain on my own boat. What am I then, just the boat owner? I've owned several boats over the years and have had captains hats made for each one, simply for fun, more or less, but that's what brought the topic up.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:10 PM
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Operator.
but captain sounds better. there is no captain. the captain is a lie.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:14 PM
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Operator.
but captain sounds better. there is no captain. the captain is a lie.
Well, that kinda bursts my fun bubble, plus he wins...which is worse. Thanks for replying.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:23 PM
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You are the captain. Telł that sob to walk the plank.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:25 PM
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He's wrong, you are the captain of your vessel. How does the coast guard call you on the radio? Captains licenses pertain to for hire vessels.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:28 PM
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Call yourself "Skipper" until you take the online course and pass the test for Captain.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:31 PM
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License?
You don't need no stinking license!
You're the captain on your boat and anybody that thinks different can just
walk the hell back to port.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Fisher View Post
License?
You don't need no stinking license!
You're the captain on your boat and anybody that thinks different can just
walk the hell back to port.
Did Captain Jack get his license in 1458?

I think not!!!! You are the captain of your vessel. I don't give a $hit if its a two man kayak or a 1000 foot ship. The man behind the wheel is the Captain.

The whole legal thing is just modern bull$hit. You can captain a vessel up to 50 tons if you have a license of.........just insurance non-sense

Tell your friend he is wrong and you are the Cap. There is always one main person in charge to make sure all are safe and that is you! That is more than a skipper. An operator doesn't have responsibility of life. a Captain does. A captain does not BUI or do decisions that endanger those that on board. If you don't care about that than you are an operator
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Originally Posted by Brocnizer1 View Post
Did Captain Jack get his license in 1458?

SNIP
He got it automatically when he "took over" the Black Pearl. Disney commissioned him captain.

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Originally Posted by The Revenge View Post
You are the captain. Telł that sob to walk the plank.
aaarrrrhhhh
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:28 PM
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Well then, that makes me happy. It bring a tear to me one good eye. Aye, Captains, and thanks.

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Old 08-21-2015, 09:58 PM
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This again?

I refuse to refer to myself as a captain. I don't let people call me that.

When you are banging into pilings docking, whether or not the buddy on your boat refers to you as captain should be the least of your worries.

The respect of maritime titles and those who earned them are gone.
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:26 PM
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I don't care what they call me & generally won't "tell" (command) anyone to do anything on the boat... I don't even care if you bring bananas... But... if they shiznit hit's the fan, the boat is in peril or any person, I'm the "operator" responsible and it better Fuu**&&k'n get done when I say it needs to get done! Any lack of response that results in injury or peril is on the A## hole that didn't listen or respond to the "operators" umm request (command) or what ever the FF#! you call it or me.
So there you go all you interweb anti captains...
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:27 PM
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You can call yourself anything you want.
As yhsesq pointed out there is no "captain's license" , only operator's or masters, mate ,etc.. As unlicensed operator of your boat, you have just as much right to call yourself "captain" as any licensed charter skipper for instance, though you are probably not impressing anyone with the hat except a few fans of Gilligan's Island. You just cannot legally charge for your passenger -carrying & certain other activities operating the boat without having earned proper operator's USCG licensing. .
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TTaxi View Post
You can call yourself anything you want.
As yhsesq pointed out there is no "captain's license" , only operator's or masters, mate ,etc.. As unlicensed operator of your boat, you have just as much right to call yourself "captain" as any licensed charter skipper for instance, though you are probably not impressing anyone with the hat except a few fans of Gilligan's Island. You just cannot legally charge for your passenger -carrying & certain other activities operating the boat without having earned proper operator's USCG licensing. .
Ttaxi gave you the technically correct answer. If you were on a Navy ship and in command, it would be fully appropriate to address you as "captain." Otherwise you are "master" or "operator." The person in command of a commercial vessel is also called captain by custom and would be both the captain and master as the owner's agent.

My crew tends to favor "hey you" as a salutation on board, though I am a USCG licensed master.
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I guess I've been called worse. But as Brocnizer said I'm the one ultimately responsible for everyone on board. If that gets threatened in anyway then it's no more mister nice guy.
About 13 -14 yrs ago my own brother got all cocked up and was trying to tell me how to operate my boat because he was 20yrs career Navy and tried to tell me I didn't know what I was doing because it wasn't the Navy way. He got so beligerent at one point I was about to call the CG and have him taken off. The next day it was a quiet ride back in. He hasn't been invited back and probably never will.

Our rules are pretty simple. Everybody gets handed a life jacket when they board and I tell them wearing it is up to them, but know where it is at all times, if your requested to put it on then I highly suggest you do so. Next, try to to keep it down to a low roar while we are leaving or coming in so I can communicate with my crew. After that have a good time.

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Old 08-22-2015, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ross View Post
Call yourself "Skipper" until you take the online course and pass the test for Captain.
And your friend is "Gilligan"
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Old 08-22-2015, 04:25 AM
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Skipper is a term of endearment given by the crew for good Captains that take care of the crew. Should not be given to own self.


Sorry Navy Tradition
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Old 08-22-2015, 04:32 AM
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As someone mentioned, you are going to be called "Captain" by the USCG when you talk to them on the radio, and often in person. Bridge tenders will call you skipper or captain. Someone has to be in charge; those entities will presume it is whoever is at the helm or on the radio when talking to the boat.
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Old 08-22-2015, 04:59 AM
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as per wiki..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain


Captain (nautical), senior PERSON or officer usually and lawfully in command of a ship or another type of vessel







All the other considerations of captain are "Legal" and pertain to you ability to charge a passenger for the trip.
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