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Old 08-05-2015, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by malolukus View Post
I think Legend has the best riding hull if your looking at fairly new boats. No one that I fish with in the upper midwest really care for Rangers.

The new Legend v-20 has the best laid out design of current boats in production.

Legend
Phoenix
Bass Cat
Triton

That would be my ranking!
100% agree with this post!!!
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:17 AM
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Ranger are not that good riding. I enjoyed the triton I owned. 75 with a 225 sho. Also check out gambler/sterling, they do 82 with a 250 out of the box, and are heavier so offer a good ride.

They are pretty easy on the eyes too
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by linesider 159 View Post
Ranger are not that good riding. I enjoyed the triton I owned. 75 with a 225 sho. Also check out gambler/sterling, they do 82 with a 250 out of the box, and are heavier so offer a good ride. They are pretty easy on the eyes too
Gambler is a good boat.
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Basscats are also nice and very fast, I just don't like the looks. Legend is beautiful but I have heard that that the ride has a few complaints. Phoenix is nice, and quick, I do wonder how the lazy Susan storage does in the long term.

Here's a video of a gambler/sterling getting it at a little over 90 https://youtu.be/AkNY0eSN6pA
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tater75 View Post
Legend and Phoenix built two of the top tier boats on the market today. The boats handle rough water very well and have plenty of storage space. The major question is what body of water will you be using your Bassboat? I came from the Bass Boat world before I moved to the coast.
Various bodies of water, probably. All around Texas. Lake whitney will probably be the one that sees me the most, but I want to try lake canyon, and a few others that are reputed to be very nice lakes with mostly clear water. So I can't really say it will only be one lake, but Lake whitney will see a lot of usage for me.
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:49 PM
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I'd be going to falcon lake, even though it's an 8 hour drive....
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Various bodies of water, probably. All around Texas. Lake whitney will probably be the one that sees me the most, but I want to try lake canyon, and a few others that are reputed to be very nice lakes with mostly clear water. So I can't really say it will only be one lake, but Lake whitney will see a lot of usage for me.
I posted a link in one of my replies that gives detailed info on the Stratos "champion elite series" a few post up.
If I remember correctly it was 2011

http://www.stratosboats.com/article.cfm?storyid=18

The cap is stratos and the hull is Champion.
Positive reviews for sure.

Gambler is a good boat
Allison is a fast boat but you can literally punch a hole in it. If youre going Allison you better be a glass man. Fishing layout sucks for me..

Yes in terms of rough water we are not talking Salt, totally different context

Don't discount the need for a rough water boat on those lakes you speak of. when the wind kicks up you don't wanna be on the cheap.

Do a google and see what boats went down when winds peaked.
Do a google and see what boats had trolling motors ripped off the rail due to stuffing
Do a google and see what boats had the hull and cap separated from rough water.

That being said,
Gambler
BassCat
Champion
Stratos---even the older ones are great boats. Not the best in rough stuff but overall Earl Bentz is a good designer
Triton.. better in rough water and another Bentz boat

Skeeter is not a bad boat at all. I'd own one. After all they copied Champion and have ex Champ employees

Legend. No knowledge of them other than at one time there were two boats named Legend and one of them sucked so make sure you have the right Legend. And I could be wrong on this. Again never a boat I looked at. However, it was made famous on YouTube when the guy about killed himself. Seems like it was a legend.


One wildcard that a lot of people love around Florida. Also a Champion clone.. Blazer Boats
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After speaking with an owner of a blazer, who also knows others with blazers, I would not recommend one. From what I was told major structure issues
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After speaking with an owner of a blazer, who also knows others with blazers, I would not recommend one. From what I was told major structure issues
Did not know that but, I never liked them. They are crazy popular around Pensacola and on the old tourney trail anyone speaking about them was always boastful
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Just for useless information my uncle owned a 17' Gambler with a fuel injected bridgeport mounted on the back.

We were never sure how fast it would go but we had radar on it well up into the 90's and my uncle said she had more to offer than he was willing to take
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Blazers are fast without a doubt, but after running a bullet, he bought one. He said at high speed in a chop it was better. Both do over 80. The biggest thing is allison, blazer, bullet, etc are all really light hulls and that's why they get those speeds considering it is not a lightweight hull. How a sterling does 82 with a 250 is some interesting stuff. Yes I am a bit biased to them, but I've always liked them before I bought one
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Everyone seems pretty concerned about speed. How fast were the Champions known to go?

Also why are the speedometer gauges always wrong? Seems like if you don't test with a GPS, you're not going to get an accurate reading.
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Everyone seems pretty concerned about speed. How fast were the Champions known to go?

Also why are the speedometer gauges always wrong? Seems like if you don't test with a GPS, you're not going to get an accurate reading.
Champion 198 Elite with an HPDI 225 will run 72 light and 70 all day with a full load. It might do 74-75 with prop work etc.. but, we fish. Top speed is not a big issue for us.

If we put a 250 on it it would be closer to 80 but, remember with a Champion they shine in rough water? Why? Hull design and weight. They are durable, heavy, and that reflects build quality.

I'm not the end all but, I have been around bass boats all my life.
From Ranger having a max horsepower of 135 to Pro-Crafts back in their day "Bless their hearts"
We used to put Johnson 235's on the 1560 I swear my relatives had a death wish

Through the years and this is by far not for everyone but, the one's that wanted to go the fastest were always the one's that burned gas all day while we were fishing.

You know ,..... Fishing.
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Saw a guy run an Allison bass boat in a sanctioned drag race one day. Don't know what kind of Merc he was running but he was competing in an Unlimited Class.

While his competitors were adjusting the weights they carried in the cockpit of their race tunnels all the Allison guy did was pull his trolling motor battery out....... He ran 109 mph and took 2nd place in a field of bad ass race boats.
Even more impressive, he didn't hit the bank. which Allison's are know to do.
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One main conclusion I came to regarding Ranger boats is that their boats performance are the laggards. Every boat review site had good things to say about them, however, when one would read the performance numbers from testing, it seems like all Ranger models across the board lack in most performance aspects.

From my research over the past year, I have found that Triton's boats are constantly being reviewed as the top performers. Also, it is unfortunate that there are so many brands and models out there so it makes it hard to find an apples to apples comparison from the same reviewing source but it looks like the consistency of bass boat brands tested numbers don't lie (year over year).

When I speak of performance, I am talking about time to plane, weight, 0-30, 0-60, and top speed. Remember, you are buying a bass boat because you want to fish tournaments AND have casual bass fishing session on the weekend. If you are buying a boat to go bass fishing with and are not intending to fish tournaments, then save yourself the money and buy a boat without the name of "bass boat" which alone adds to the price.

I have noticed that people often overlook the time to plane metric in bass boats. When fishing a tournament, it's great if your boat can do 70+ mph. When comparing two bass boats, if the time to plane takes twice as long and the top speed is equal, then the slower plane boat is inferior (all boater skills and weather aside).

250hp being the maximum horsepower for the majority of tournaments, one should consider official boat reviews using this outboard horsepower rating engine.

I really hate to say it, and feel free to criticize me for being an a$$*ole, but most bass boat consumers buy bass boats for fashion over function. I believe a majority don't buy bass boats with the intention of participating in bass fishing tournaments as a hobby or for a career to pursue.

Also, (A-Hole comment #2) the majority of bass boat owners will always tell you that their brand is the best and somehow twist a story to convince you which is best. This is why using forums for bass boat comparisons opens the BIGGEST CAN OF WORMS! Bass boat owners are typically the same people who fall into the Ford vs. Chevy arguments. Being a bass boat owner myself, I try stay clear of all this in order to give myself a fully unbiased opinion.

Sorry for the long rant. I would HIGHLY recommend that you stay clear of the marketing and sponsorship gimmicks in the bass fishing industry and look at boat reviews online from reputable reviewers with posted numbers. You will be shocked to see the inverse relationship between bass boat brands high recommendations and their performance figures (i.e. Ranger boats).

Keep your boat search simple and look at the professional reviews.

I hope to buy another bass boat this year and I can tell you, finding true and clear unbiased information in the bass boat world can be difficult but just remember to stay clear of "hype".
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