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Old 01-31-2016, 07:35 AM
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She's a sport...I can see it now as the VW is draggin azz down the road..lol
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:30 AM
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Yes she is a good sport, but since she just got a new, new refrigerator and the guys at the shop got a new, old refrigerator, Every one is pretty A-OK.

The coolers totally knocked out "normal and customary" battery and rigging placement. I would have had a rigging compartment across the back. Further every single item such as harness's and bait well drains had to be revisited.

Starting batteries are for starting. Aside from the negative ground I would have completely isolated them and included a pair of jumper cables for an emergency start, but that's just me. Emergency start becomes 99.999% a mute point if starting batteries are only used for starting.

Battery compartment is so clean you don't even see the batteries. Well, you do if you peek to the side. You only have to remove the two lug nuts, one screw in the top spacer and batteries can be removed in less than 60 seconds.

One switch serves to provide on, off, and to isolate or parallel for starting.
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:02 PM
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This weekend was scheduled to be non skid day, but rescheduled because it was 28F when I got up and 42F at noon. The neighbors love me when I fire up the heat in our building as enough leaks out to take the chill off outside.

I had researched and sourced non skid that glows in the dark. Ray feels that "All that Glitters is not Gold" and shot me down. It would have been a toss up whether you would first see us, or hear us with the stereo coming at night. Actually, we have 3 Rigid LED light bars fitted to the top. Your going to see us.

My expectation for the T-Top is high. Weight low. Bathroom scale low.
We are lining up the fiber glass sockets which isolate the carbon fiber from the Aluminum.
The T-top comes back off for the final structural elements and finish. Not exactly steps to speedy building. Not for the first 39.

Bathroom scales are not sufficient to weigh the whole boat, at least not with the stereo installed. :-) We have a new 10,000 lb. digital scale to weigh the completed boat with fuel and establish the center of gravity. 5,000 lb would have been sufficient before final outfitting, and for Jassman's new boat.

Knowing the weight and center of gravity we predict the speed then work backwards.Knowing the slip from the earlier boats to choose the propellers. All I can say now is that the pitch number starts with a 2, Jassmans with a 3.

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Old 02-06-2016, 03:25 PM
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Annnntttttiiiiiiiiccccciiiiiiipppppattttttiiiiiiio ooooonnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:48 PM
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With six legs and six sockets needing perfect alignment the two questions were "will she? or won't she be removable?"

Top came back off for paint and completion on the shop floor. I guess the answer is she will.

There will be local reinforcement along the load paths and provision for this and that as Ray requires.

The lamination crew has completed the construction and is keeping busy with a 44' to a different design.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:03 AM
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:17 PM
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I am loving the boat show in Miami and the guys in NC are freezing
My mission here is to meet with vendors to thank them for their support and finalize seats, plumbing, the trailer and brainstorming a diesel package to have the fishing cockpit clear to the transom so not to work around the conventional out board arrangement
Would 11' -6" x 9'-6" fishing cockpit and 3+ mpg @ fast cruise work for some? 1200
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
I am loving the boat show in Miami and the guys in NC are freezing
My mission here is to meet with vendors to thank them for their support and finalize seats, plumbing, the trailer and brainstorming a diesel package to have the fishing cockpit clear to the transom so not to work around the conventional out board arrangement
Would 11' -6" x 9'-6" fishing cockpit and 3+ mpg @ fast cruise work for some? 1200
Mile range

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Old 02-12-2016, 05:06 PM
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Jim, make sure to come see us at the end of Pier 5.
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
I am loving the boat show in Miami and the guys in NC are freezing
My mission here is to meet with vendors to thank them for their support and finalize seats, plumbing, the trailer and brainstorming a diesel package to have the fishing cockpit clear to the transom so not to work around the conventional out board arrangement
Would 11' -6" x 9'-6" fishing cockpit and 3+ mpg @ fast cruise work for some? 1200
Mile range

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We frequently get triple hooks with the boat at rest, and even with 5' short rods, working a fish around the motors isn't something that happens on more than 1 out of 50 40 lb fish.

Where it is more of a problem is on 150 + lb tuna, but triple or even double hook ups are not very frequent either, and when they do happen, moving the boat keeps the fish away from the outboards doing slow circles. And with wide spread motors on a cat, turning slow or tight is less of a problem.

So from a fishing perspective, I don't see the need for propellers tucked under the hull, unless a fighting chair is required by an older or handicapped angler, or someone believes that diesels will raise more fish when trolling.

Are these sponsons really wide enough to do maintenance work in comfort around 300 hp diesels under decks or can the oil inlet-outlets-filters and injector pumps be moved from the side of the motors to the front of the motor to make things easier ?
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
I am loving the boat show in Miami and the guys in NC are freezing
My mission here is to meet with vendors to thank them for their support and finalize seats, plumbing, the trailer and brainstorming a diesel package to have the fishing cockpit clear to the transom so not to work around the conventional out board arrangement
Would 11' -6" x 9'-6" fishing cockpit and 3+ mpg @ fast cruise work for some? 1200
Mile range

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It works for me! Is this based off our conversation? FPT 570's and surface drives?? Nice meeting you the other day. I think 1200 mile range is way more than anyone needs, I think 300 gallons of fuel is plenty. I have 600+ mile range now and I only fill up for Bahamas trips, not for Bimini though if I have 150 gallons I am good for a 4 day weekend over there.
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullshipper View Post
Are these sponsons really wide enough to do maintenance work in comfort around 300 hp diesels under decks or can the oil inlet-outlets-filters and injector pumps be moved from the side of the motors to the front of the motor to make things easier ?
This is why I like the FPT 570's they have excellent packaging and are very narrow engines. The Cummins 6.7 550hp while it is a great motor has shit packaging and is very wide. All the current 370 hp diesels are V8's and thus also wide.

Maybe some tuned up Yanmar 6LP's (380 hp) might be the ticket, they are loud though compared to the new common rail engines.
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It works for me! Is this based off our conversation? FPT 570's and surface drives?? Nice meeting you the other day. I think 1200 mile range is way more than anyone needs, I think 300 gallons of fuel is plenty. I have 600+ mile range now and I only fill up for Bahamas trips, not for Bimini though if I have 150 gallons I am good for a 4 day weekend over there.

Now you have peaked my interest..I like the FPT's and Arneson ASD-8's..

http://www.mshs.com/pdf/Products/FPT...0450%20570.pdf

http://new.arneson-industries.com/te...echnical-specs
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RAY....Gorgeous shear line, every time I look at her...and the amount of hull in the water will easily shine on a rough day. Soon..and will be worth the wait...

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Old 02-13-2016, 05:04 AM
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With the bigger diesel motors we either raise the cockpit 6 " aft and re-profile the sheer to keep the optimum 25-28" gunnel height above the sole or fit motor boxes. The motor access issue is resolved to some extent by remote and top mounting service functions and having an engine room where you could sit in front or back for access. Not slamming the engine against a BHD. We would need to jack shaft regardless as the drive height and the engine mounting as low as possible require that.

Its a redesign, and It makes me understand the popularity of strapping on another outboard for more power.

Rays boat will live on a lift, but we intended for a boat living in the water to provide a taller transom and outboards with longer legs. with the engines tilted, there would be no metal in the water. Anything but a Verado would require that regardless.
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This is why I like the FPT 570's they have excellent packaging and are very narrow engines. The Cummins 6.7 550hp while it is a great motor has shit packaging and is very wide. All the current 370 hp diesels are V8's and thus also wide.

Maybe some tuned up Yanmar 6LP's (380 hp) might be the ticket, they are loud though compared to the new common rail engines.
Isn't Yanmar supposed to be coming out with a small, ~600hp engine? The FY01 has been on boatdiesel's database for a while but no info. If it ever comes out, based on the current rumors and speculation, I would imagine that it would be a viable option for a boat like this.
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If you don't go the Arneson/Levi/ZF surface drive route, the Powervent that Don Smith and others have had success with may work you?

http://www.nava.ca/power.htm

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Old 02-13-2016, 08:10 AM
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Being a past owner of a Smith 45 with the power-vent drive I can tell you its a very robust drive
I could'nt break it
Extremely low maintenance
The way its pocketed into the hull allows for a very shallow draft
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I've never had a diesel in a boat, but I know they cost more in a truck, and weigh a lot. Is the benefit of their fuel use enough to outweigh the initial cost, (I've heard maintenance is expensive for them on boats. I don't understand why--it's not on trucks) and added weight?
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