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Old 12-11-2015, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by catfoiler View Post
Did you consider using vacuum panels for insulation in the fish boxes rather than thicker insulation.
I am not familiar with the product. I did do a quick internet search and one vendor describes a modestly more thermally efficient material than the insulation foam we use but when enveloped in a foil under vacuum its insulation properties improve dramatically. We used the foam like a Boston Whaler to support the fish box laminate as long as we were using foam regardless. I will check it out further though. I understand the principle, the thermos, the worlds most amazing invention.

The Greatest Invention Ever

Three guys are discussing the greatest invention ever.

The first says, "That's easy; the automobile. It opened up society and changed our way of life. Offshoots such as the truck changed distribution, the development of cities, rural areas, and suburbs."

The second guy says, "No, it was the telephone. It revolutionized communications, made anyone accessible to anyone else, anywhere in the world."

The third guy says, "You guys are both wrong. It's the thermos."

He said "When you put something hot in there it stays hot."

Then he said "And when you put something cold in there it stays cold."

Other guys, "Yes, it's a thermos."

The the third guy says, "Yeh but how do it know?"
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Old 12-11-2015, 01:19 PM
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Like Playboy Magazine, this thread is long on literature and short on pictures. Liked Hustler better, plenty of pictures. I have the attention span of a gnat.....with big bulgy eyes.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:03 PM
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The r value may be 5x plus that of polyurethane foam but are expensive
Might work if a common size can be used to reduce cost and space
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Coronao View Post
Like Playboy Magazine, this thread is long on literature and short on pictures. Liked Hustler better, plenty of pictures. I have the attention span of a gnat.....with big bulgy eyes.
Maybe a "box" like this will make your eyes bulge out when we weigh it.

Substantially we will build most of this unit outside of the boat. We are fortunate to be down the road from Marine Design and a pair of talented designers. They are great with ergonomics at the helm and will also be doing all of the upholstery. Where the triple helm seating is fitted will drop down lower when the top cap is fitted.

The partitions dovetail with the helm and we have been doing a fair bit of work from templates, as much of the boat is bagged in preparation of squirting topcoat over the weekend.
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Default Aye, the Smell of Isocyanates in the Morning

Aye, the Smell of Isocyanates in the Morning;

We painted the console this morning and the remainder of the interior tomorrow, excepting the non skid. It would be impossible to paint it all at one time and not drag a hose or back into wet paint during the three coats of paint applied.
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yummy looks like some good Iso being sprayed! Are you using Imron? Although I think imron requires less then 3.
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Originally Posted by Sarasota Line X View Post
yummy looks like some good Iso being sprayed! Are you using Imron? Although I think Imron requires less then 3.
Its not Imron, Its Alexseal. One of the previous 22' Cats was metallic silver with clear coat Alexseal and the paint job was featured in several ads. The 39 is Matterhorn white. Ray didn't have to color match to his wife's Jetta to get a new boat like I did. Alexseal’s Germany-based parent company Mankiewicz Gebr. & Co., has a 110-year history as a coatings innovator and has been making the Alexseal yacht coatings for 10 yrs. Alex is the name of the Company owners son by the way.

All of the old guard I know from Awlgip are working for Alexseal now and we get good support.

Side bar; My own wood/epoxy boat I built in Michigan was painted with Imron. Moving to Fort Lauderdale I became friends with Scott Flanders our Lewis Marine salesman. Scott and I later designed and built Egret fishing boats together.

In the warehouse district next to the airport where Lewis Marine was based, a paint shop was painting dump trucks with Awlgrip. Airplane paint. Scott tried some on his race car, liked it and took some to Roy Merritt to try on his SF boats. Lewis Marine became the Marine distributor for Awlgrip, and "Now you know the rest of the story".
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Stunning!
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Stunning!
Praise is some compensation for smelling paint all weekend!

We have more finish work to go but have crossed the threshold where we can now outfit in earnest.
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Looks incredible. I've really enjoyed this knowledgeable thread and the history lessons as well.
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:57 PM
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So Jim, how much do those boxes weigh, just how much will our eyes bulge :-) This is an incredibly informative thread and it's just an unbelievable boat. Good luck getting him finished - definitely a boy and can't wait to see it in the water.
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The helm, bait prep center is becoming robust. It will see more load than just the beer in the cooler however substantial that may be. From supporting the T top and live helm seating and the beer, the loads can be substantial.

The Aluminum T- Top legs fit nicely.

The piping depicted serves to drain water outboard from bait well to drain inboard to the tunnel. This eliminates the station wagon effect of the live well discharge misting at speed and getting sucked back into the boat. The other large tube is for engine rigging.
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That pipe interface came out stunning. I was thinking about skipping the Miami show this year, but I have to see this boat.
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This tower on the 14' x 43' may in fact get a bolt or two. Those over passes on I-95 can be worrisome trailering with the tower up, but it is surprising how big a boat you can truck one piece at a time..
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Man Otseg, the proportion/lines of the 14x43 with the tower are really nice. How many future projects do you have in the hopper? Also very much looking forward to this finished project.
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You're funny. I like your sense of humor Jim.

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I did not mean to direct disdain towards low bridges necessarily. I like them. Any boat builder worth his salt should have repair experience. Working in the Ft Lauderdale/Miami area for 35 yrs. the jobs comprised a fair bit of refit and repair in companion to the new builds. There are few boats that do not come through Florida sooner or later, and we learned from each one.

When I worked at the Luders Yard on long Island Sound in Stamford Ct. the road to the yard passed under the commuter train tracks servicing Manhattan. We had boats trucked safely all the way from California only to clean the deck off at that bridge the last half mile. In Lauderdale the Summerfield yard on the new river had a tricky corner turning into the yard so we got all of the carbon fiber mast repair from the sailboats trucked there and breaking the spar.

Now that I look again at the profile, I don't see why the tower could not be sectioned above the main top. We know the T-top versions with Radar trailer safely, so for transport drop the upper station into the cockpit. I know that is under consideration for Ray's 39.
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With all the fly by wire systems out there, throttles, electronics, steering. It stands to reason that there should be disconnects for the upper helm station and it could be either removed or laid down.
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
I did not mean to direct disdain towards low bridges necessarily. I like them. Any boat builder worth his salt should have repair experience. Working in the Ft Lauderdale/Miami area for 35 yrs. the jobs comprised a fair bit of refit and repair in companion to the new builds. There are few boats that do not come through Florida sooner or later, and we learned from each one.

When I worked at the Luders Yard on long Island Sound in Stamford Ct. the road to the yard passed under the commuter train tracks servicing Manhattan. We had boats trucked safely all the way from California only to clean the deck off at that bridge the last half mile. In Lauderdale the Summerfield yard on the new river had a tricky corner turning into the yard so we got all of the carbon fiber mast repair from the sailboats trucked there and breaking the spar.

Now that I look again at the profile, I don't see why the tower could not be sectioned above the main top. We know the T-top versions with Radar trailer safely, so for transport drop the upper station into the cockpit. I know that is under consideration for Ray's 39.
I know it has already been said by many posters -but your latest tale merits a " me too".

Besides making a truly innovative and beautiful boat -- your frequently shared life/ work stories are ABSOLUTELY fascinating . And they are also sometimes extremely humorous .

Please continue.
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