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Old 12-01-2015, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by msoffshore View Post
So when are pics of this Hull ever going to be posted?
Look back at post #507
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by raysmith View Post
Look back at post #507
Geez, everybody wants pictures, Ray, you too? :-)

We expect if it stops raining to roll the boat out again and will be doing a trial engine fit for a photo opportunity.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:02 AM
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Reviewed, Wow.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
Geez, everybody wants pictures, Ray, you too? :-)

We expect if it stops raining to roll the boat out again and will be doing a trial engine fit for a photo opportunity.

Jim I think you need to move your operation to MS Gulf coast..it rarely rains and its warm 95% of the time.. We can get more boats out...and also closer the Venice crowd ..

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Old 12-02-2015, 12:42 AM
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You Guys down under took the catamaran ball and ran with it. We have done a number of projects with ATL composites, the Australian Licensee for Gougeon Brothers Epoxy over the years, and just quoted a Cat for their customer before thanksgiving. My niece took her Oceanography degree at James Cook and has residency. I should get down there,

My neighbor built many of the Mercury off shore race boats when the Austrailian Shark Cat first showed up to race offshore at Key West. At the drivers meeting all the Americans wished to postpone because conditions were too rough. The Aussies got up and said we race in these conditions all the time at home and you are just puss---s. My friend said of their boat that he had never seen a throttle which was fitted with a bungee cord to hold it wide open. :-) I think they finished second against the larger V bottoms.

Comparing the 22' Compmillennia "Lightspeed 6.7" we built to the Shark Cat, I would say the apple did not fall far from the tree.
The difference might be a coat of paint, although I would say that my choice of driver is more fun, meeting their description.
Jim, I am not surprised with your knowledge of the Australian side of things! I think my 28 feet Kevlacat is an amazing hull design and for its size very hard to beat in many aspects. But I certainly think that there is a lot of room for improvement in the larger sizes. I am really looking forward with great interest in your great project.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
Jim, I am not surprised with your knowledge of the Australian side of things! I think my 28 feet Kevlacat is an amazing hull design and for its size very hard to beat in many aspects. But I certainly think that there is a lot of room for improvement in the larger sizes. I am really looking forward with great interest in your great project.
Well coincidentally I have owned my Australian designed racing sailboat for 28 yrs. It was a Miller-Whitworth 40, and a sister ship to Ceil III, the Australian Sydney Hobart and Admiral cup winner. The sisters found themselves together in the same marina when I had Celox in England in 1988. I was told the original name "Celox" means "Jealous Woman" in Greek. Since the builder, the second owner and I all went through first wives when we owned her, must be true.

OK, I outed myself.

I have always owned a racing sailboat, and don't like to hurt the fish......much.
I do think the same way we built racing sailboats in the early 80's is touted as new and wonderful by powerboat builders today. Truly its a lot simpler and cheaper to strap big iron on a boat for speed than through design and light weight construction.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:01 PM
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Luca Brasi:
Don Corleone, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child.

That is what I was thinking when Ray's motors were delivered.

There is going to be a marriage of the new Mercury 350 "Verados" to a Compmillennia "Lightspeed 1188" and its going to be a Masculine Child.

No Sleep for the Fishes.
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Old 12-05-2015, 08:17 AM
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The more and more I see this boat..it looks great from all angles.. The sheer line looks really good..I like how it flows from stern to bow and does not have that exaggerated or bloated look. The transom looks exceptionally well and different from the competition and those Fusion White Merc's look Bad Azz on there.
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Originally Posted by Jassman View Post
The more and more I see this boat..it looks great from all angles.. The sheer line looks really good..I like how it flows from stern to bow and does not have that exaggerated or bloated look. The transom looks exceptionally well and different from the competition and those Fusion White Merc's look Bad Azz on there.
Every time I see your signature the bigger boat you're designing grows a few feet
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Every time I see your signature the bigger boat you're designing grows a few feet

lol..The 39 is all hands on deck now and am at the starting phases in designing a longer and wider version of the 39... this boat I will keep..but..everything is always for sale..lol. Working on particulars as we speak. Right now we are trying to get Ray's 39 ready for sea trials at the Miami show. I'm actually contemplating building my 39 into a full force fishing cc and run it up to Venice and let a few of the captains with similar size cat's try it for a few days - week..talking with one at the moment. Jim builds a great boat, extremely well engineered to the NTH degree..looking forward to it and meeting a few THT's at Miami.
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lol..The 39 is all hands on deck now and am at the starting phases in designing a longer and wider version of the 39... this boat I will keep..but..everything is always for sale..lol. Working on particulars as we speak. Right now we are trying to get Ray's 39 ready for sea trials at the Miami show. I'm actually contemplating building my 39 into a full force fishing cc and run it up to Venice and let a few of the captains with similar size cat's try it for a few days - week..talking with one at the moment. Jim builds a great boat, extremely well engineered to the NTH degree..looking forward to it and meeting a few THT's at Miami.
My son will start College in the US next September and I will try my best to see one of these beauties live and have a good chat with such a knowledgeable builder! Who knows, I might fall in love with he US in the following 4 years! Jim, if you make it down under in the near future please let us know, would love to "shout" you a dinner and pick your brain! Can't wait to see some water trials and have some real world data! Keep us posted please.
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Ray's helm seat base, and bait prep center combo vacuum resin infused with core, laminated and put to bed under one of our insulating blankets. Will house a cooler, sink, tackle drawers (two sets), trash bin, with lift up cover. Sub woofer too.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:11 PM
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Jim what is the lead time from deposit to boat more or less?
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:44 AM
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Jim what is the lead time from deposit to boat more or less?
Less than Ray's build duration for sure. A great portion of that time was the design decisions. The early negotiations were for a 34' to 35' cat which grew to fit his needs. I worked with a 3D design CAD guy initially to develop the design but struggled to get what I wanted so we went old school and drafted the Cat by hand and then lofted the hull. I really feel that you get a better sense of proportion that way.

Now we have memorialized the entire boat in AUTOCAD and subsequent changes are easy to effect. On the "Drafting board" as we say, are Ray's arrangement, a larger console walk around, Larger console with Tower, a dual console hardtop with head, storage and berths in the hulls, A hard top with trunk cabin with a queen size bunk on the tunnel and full galley, head and air conditioning for week long fishing trips to the Bahamas, and last but not least Jazzman's sex machine with quads.

We have accrued tooling, meaning molds that save production time, including for our fuel tanks but are at the moment in custom mode. It should be 6 months, but perhaps a bit longer for the next one, and less for subsequent or better yet concurrent builds.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:14 AM
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I recently saw an advertisement in one of the fishing magazines for lithium boat batteries .

Supposedly they weigh only 20 Lbs and are extremely long lived. I have been reading the extreme lengths to which you go to reduce weight . Have you considered those batteries .

Thanks .
PS are you planning to have that first boat at the Miami boat show?
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jassman View Post
I'm actually contemplating building my 39 into a full force fishing cc and run it up to Venice and let a few of the captains with similar size cat's try it for a few days - week..talking with one at the moment.

If this happens, PLEASE post here and let the rest of us know about it? Even if I don't get the chance to charter her, I'd love to get a really good look.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:00 PM
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I recently saw an advertisement in one of the fishing magazines for lithium boat batteries .

Supposedly they weigh only 20 Lbs and are extremely long lived. I have been reading the extreme lengths to which you go to reduce weight . Have you considered those batteries .
Unless something changes Ray's mind we will fit AGM's. The battery compartments are split.
Two house batteries fitted under the helm seat with room for two more if needed, and the pair of starting batteries fitted aft adjacent to the engines. He has the option and space to swap them out any time.

I have followed Teslas development over the years, and their 6 billion dollar factory to build batteries and their component controls we will see come to fruition very soon.
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Lithium batteries that size catch on fire last I heard.
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Originally Posted by carbidemanfishing View Post
Lithium batteries that size catch on fire last I heard.
We are switching to them for next season, they are lighter and put out more power. It's how we are able to run chiller plates and a/c without a genset.
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