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Old 11-25-2015, 11:49 PM
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As a Brit I should have known that quote was from Chapman!
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Old 11-26-2015, 05:49 AM
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Lucky it's November, because we enlisted two 4.80 x 12" wheels from a jet ski trailer to move Ray"s Cat. Not many 39' boats can do that. Once his over the road trailer arrives, I suppose we have to give them back.
Jim, Did you pass out cigars when you pulled her out?
She definitely has eyes!!
Now Let's get her rigged !!
Anticipation is killing me
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:28 AM
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jim, did you pass out cigars when you pulled her out?
She definitely has eyes!!
Now let's get her rigged !!
Anticipation is killing me


it's a boy...with an attitude.
Let the fun begin !!!!!
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:11 AM
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The hull lines appear as some of the most beautiful and innovative out there .
And it is fascinating to review all the techniques Jim has used to curtail weight.
It will be extremely interesting to see how much it weighs and it's speeds when finished .
And then it will also be fascinating to find out how that innovative bottom design handles waves .
Big thumbs up to Jim and his crew on a boat that seems extremely unique from anything else currently available.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:21 AM
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Nice. What's the deadrise?
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Old 11-27-2015, 01:03 PM
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17 degrees with a pad. More dead rise than what I would have designed if left to my own devices. In Miami my Friend, who was offshore racer when they raced offshore. That crowd back then, according to "Brownie" was hairy chested, hard drinking, smoking, and as fornicating a group as you would find anywhere, and that describes the women. Wilson was the rigger of all my big boats is independently developing a project called a Wilson 41. Its a pilot house cat with 13-6" beam, 4 bunks, head, galley, generator AC etc. yet still fast and fuel efficient with a pr of 350 Yamaha's because we build light. We will make his composite parts for him, and that bottom configuration is what he wanted. At this stage our hull mold is dammed off for the center console version, and while the tunnel width remains constant, the beam of the hulls can be widened for increased displacement and room to fit inboards or quads.

The transom is like the butt end of a gun. Its the pointy end that counts. The transom serves many functions and if you don't get it right can hurt you. The real business end starts 39' forward.
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So is it a flat pad aft of the step? Or it flattens out closer to the stern?
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Old 11-28-2015, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pas View Post
Jim is it possible to completely eliminate aluminum from the t-top, can the legs be made from carbon fiber? I think you are on the right track, eliminating welds and alum/SS corrosion issues.
We could have, but I believe Ray was under the impression that the composite legs would only be straight, and that would not achieve the esthetic he wanted. I mocked up the legs in PVC with all the flowing bends desired, and it was pretty easy to send them off to Modlin in Farmville N.C. to bend for me. We can in fact build carbon tubes in any section with flowing shapes. Would take more time and money of course.

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Man, those are sweet lines. Does the inset running the outside length of the hull have a purpose or just for aesthetic value? Looks like you filled and faired the joint between the cap and hull?
Its a fair question and it's a belt line to visually reduce the apparent height. Or, what did the zero say to the eight? "Nice belt!"

Originally Posted by Conch~Her View Post
Otseg, I always admire your builds and follow them closely... However, this is the first time I have noticed and maybe it was discussed before, but the deck is one level that slightly rises forward to follow the vessels sheer line? No steps in the deck? If so I commend your work! I often wonder why so many builders feel the need to place a step in the deck?
We try to make a walk-around in a way that you can close your eyes and the toe kick and gunnel height is consistent. The sole to gunnel height forward on Ray's boat becomes higher because the forward casting deck or sun pad is a popular place for Babes and Kids and I wanted it to have some depth.
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Originally Posted by MakoMyDay View Post
Your men in those drawings have excellent posture.
Anticipating a ride like butter encourages good posture.

Originally Posted by Skiandfish View Post
Jim did you weigh that hull? Astonishing, and keen to see the final weight when it is rigged. The lightweight innovations here are amazing - for speed add lightness was a phrase issued by a well known member of the Porsche racing family, I believe
Its Twice as heavy as the 22 at the same stage of completion, which means it is proportionally lighter. A wee bit more than two long tons. A surprising proportion of that weight is the five insulated fish and cooler boxes and it also includes the fuel tanks and some other rigging. That is about 1200 lbs lighter than a 31 bare hull/deck/console V bottom center console we received to rig some years ago.

Originally Posted by deltarome View Post
love your designs and build. Roughly, how much does one of your 39' cats cost with V350 twins?
Approximately 350K with 350's.

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So is it a flat pad aft of the step? Or it flattens out closer to the stern?
I am a constant deadrise in the planing area kind of guy,
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Originally Posted by Otseg View Post
We try to make a walk-around in a way that you can close your eyes and the toe kick and gunnel height is consistent. The sole to gunnel height forward on Ray's boat becomes higher because the forward casting deck or sun pad is a popular place for Babes and Kids and I wanted it to have some depth.
My Knowles is the same way with the gunwale height being consistent the entire way around even as the deck raises ever so slightly forward. Makes it very nice to lock you knees everywhere from the cockpit to the bow... I too have the sun pad but mine is just forward of the "house" and I canīt explain in words how much itīs used. He will appreciate that! Anyways, I just had to mention the single level deck. You have certainly thought this build out from start to finish; your experience and knowledge takes your builds to the next level... Thank you for sharing your expertise with us!
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Originally Posted by Conch~Her View Post
My Knowles is the same way with the gunwale height being consistent the entire way around even as the deck raises ever so slightly forward. Makes it very nice to lock you knees everywhere from the cockpit to the bow... I too have the sun pad but mine is just forward of the "house" and I canīt explain in words how much itīs used. He will appreciate that! Anyways, I just had to mention the single level deck. You have certainly thought this build out from start to finish; your experience and knowledge takes your builds to the next level... Thank you for sharing your expertise with us!
I made Bill Knowles acquaintance in the early 1980's. A very fine gentleman. I am sure he, as well as many other boat builders producing an "Old Reliable" benefited from some mentoring from Nick Smith, I know I did. I hope that Nick may take a ride on Ray's boat when it makes its way down to Florida. You know Nick, "Once you've had cat you won't go back".
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We make alot of boats or parts no one else can or wants to, so that means getting creative with one off tooling (molds) and bending the materials to our will. The more willfull parts we poke with a stick. This cored panel construction has allowed us form all kinds of structure economically.

The big part is the cabin top to an almost 90' sportfisherman and the most "willfull" part, a ten sticker, is Rays T top.
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I have been following this build with great interest! I am a Cat owner since 1993 and I absolutely love and understand Cats! This one looks like a winner and if I wasn't on the other side of the world I would certainly make an effort to have a closer look at this. Here in the bottom half of Australia we definetely enjoy a bit of protection from the weather hence an center console open like this would not be ideal. I like your brief Pilot House concept, however, here is a decent layout worth considering.

https://www.facebook.com/YamahaOutbo...9521914456553/

I understand this is a different boat at all levels, but I am only suggesting the layout, that offers a great level of protection as well as walk around!

I am looking forward to seeing your finish product. Your build quality is outstanding.
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:16 AM
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Can't wait to see this thing done!
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
I have been following this build with great interest! I am a Cat owner since 1993 and I absolutely love and understand Cats! This one looks like a winner and if I wasn't on the other side of the world I would certainly make an effort to have a closer look at this. Here in the bottom half of Australia we definetely enjoy a bit of protection from the weather hence an center console open like this would not be ideal. I like your brief Pilot House concept, however, here is a decent layout worth considering.

https://www.facebook.com/YamahaOutbo...9521914456553/

I understand this is a different boat at all levels, but I am only suggesting the layout, that offers a great level of protection as well as walk around!

I am looking forward to seeing your finish product. Your build quality is outstanding.

cool video.. Jim is working on that as we speak.. A 3 sided pilot house with a walk around...and stay within a 12' beam...at least that's what I will be building.
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
I have been following this build with great interest! I am a Cat owner since 1993 and I absolutely love and understand Cats! This one looks like a winner and if I wasn't on the other side of the world I would certainly make an effort to have a closer look at this. Here in the bottom half of Australia we definetely enjoy a bit of protection from the weather hence an center console open like this would not be ideal. I like your brief Pilot House concept, however, here is a decent layout worth considering.

https://www.facebook.com/YamahaOutbo...9521914456553/

I understand this is a different boat at all levels, but I am only suggesting the layout, that offers a great level of protection as well as walk around!

I am looking forward to seeing your finish product. Your build quality is outstanding.

Super cool sled, I could see a boat like this working in the gulf.
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Old 11-30-2015, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
I have been following this build with great interest! I am a Cat owner since 1993 and I absolutely love and understand Cats! This one looks like a winner and if I wasn't on the other side of the world I would certainly make an effort to have a closer look at this. Here in the bottom half of Australia we definetely enjoy a bit of protection from the weather hence an center console open like this would not be ideal. I like your brief Pilot House concept, however, here is a decent layout worth considering.

https://www.facebook.com/YamahaOutbo...9521914456553/

I understand this is a different boat at all levels, but I am only suggesting the layout, that offers a great level of protection as well as walk around!

I am looking forward to seeing your finish product. Your build quality is outstanding.
You Guys down under took the catamaran ball and ran with it. We have done a number of projects with ATL composites, the Australian Licensee for Gougeon Brothers Epoxy over the years, and just quoted a Cat for their customer before thanksgiving. My niece took her Oceanography degree at James Cook and has residency. I should get down there,

My neighbor built many of the Mercury off shore race boats when the Austrailian Shark Cat first showed up to race offshore at Key West. At the drivers meeting all the Americans wished to postpone because conditions were too rough. The Aussies got up and said we race in these conditions all the time at home and you are just puss---s. My friend said of their boat that he had never seen a throttle which was fitted with a bungee cord to hold it wide open. :-) I think they finished second against the larger V bottoms.

Comparing the 22' Compmillennia "Lightspeed 6.7" we built to the Shark Cat, I would say the apple did not fall far from the tree.
The difference might be a coat of paint, although I would say that my choice of driver is more fun, meeting their description.
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Thank you for posting pics of this build and how cool the two pictures above showing the two boats.
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That 22 was one hell of a boat..A little 60+mph rocketship..Handled like a Porsche..
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So when are pics of this Hull ever going to be posted?
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