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Old 10-24-2015, 03:50 AM
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Glad to have you stop by. Shoot, I wish I knew the tournament was in progress as I was in Beaufort early Friday morning doing some consulting before you came and would have loved to walk the docks too.

After spending 60 hours a week my whole working life in a boat shop its fair to say I couldn't be much of a fisherman too. I have relied on mentors to guide me to finesse the design of the fishing features and they leave the hull design and fabrication to me. This boat is all about Rays needs and wants, but its a pretty broad canvas. I may have said Oh no a couple times but never No. We are exploring more options and arrangements going forward.

Captain Jerry Dilsaver, http://www.captjerry.com/ and my Father-in-Law are neighbors on Oak Island N.C. near Southport and they are all about inshore fishing now. Jerry is a SKA Hall of Fame member though, and he sea trialed the 22 and has been generous with his council. I have not told jerry my fishing handle in S. Florida was "repellent", so I do have a commitment from Jerry to fish with me some day.

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Old 10-24-2015, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Coquille View Post
if you want my opinion, for its miniscule value: maybe not dryer but as dry as they all seem pretty dry 39 seavee, at least the unstopped version, haven't run the stepped, though I've been on it, just an amazing hull, Just straight dryer? Not nearly as fast, 37 topaz, also a great hull Having run next to the 39 and 42 yf, both could probably keep pace and look super dry have heard great stuff about the 39 contender but haven't had the pleasure, this stands in direct opposition to the 36 contender which comes with grundens to go over your hanson bibs As to 5' seas vs 5' chop, we usually have ground swell under the chop in venice similar to what jassman sees once he's well outside the islands or mako sees once he runs over to venice.
Sure, always good to get real world critique on guys that have been on the boats. I am by no means a fan of WC, beam is not wide enough but I do like the amenities/comfort and some of the layout. The 27TE was my first real cat to say...and then I partnered up on a 27 AC and put about 400 hours on her...Like you mentioned the seas we have here...are like you called it. I now mainly run to the MS islands from my house and back..we area so protected vs what you guys have but the fishing is some the best in LA....and the captains are cool as well. I am not a fisherman, but am slowly learning and really liking it. The only large mono's I have been on is a 32 Regulator, 36 Contender...didn't care for it...and a 39 NorTech 4 times which for me was perfect, and I have some excellent history with them since 2003. Someone keeps bugging me..lol..to drive a 33 Albury Brothers which their previous boats for mono's are a butter soft ride, somewhat like a cat..just not fast do to hull design. For me cats are where its at when it comes to ride. I have been on a 33 Freeman 3 times..love the boat but do not really care for the stubby look..but I have always been one to prefer performance over looks...now Freeman's 37 is a different story, great look, great performer buy the numbers as well..BUT..I feel there is a different approach from all the Skaters, MTI's, and NorTech cats (which are all completely different) I have driven/raced over the years that a few key things can be applied without diminishing the ride and can be accomplished through precision engineering, better use of materials in all the right areas, proper layup, and a few tweaks that can help in these fishing CC cats...without making the boat a Potatoe Chip. Jim has it down and I think when Rays boat is finished it will be another stellar offering to the public. We will see y'all in Miami.

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Old 10-26-2015, 11:46 AM
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Fitting the through deck anchoring pocket today. Like an ice berg, above deck is 10% of whats below. An internal Hawse Pipe feeds the anchor windlass. I am hoping you don't have to stuff a rag down the hole when running at high speed to keep it from whistling like a Beluga Whale.
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Old 10-26-2015, 12:12 PM
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Make sure you give Ray a way to push the line to the right or left as it's being wound on the spool. Be nice if these had a levelwind.

I have 550' of 3/8" double braid on mine, so it's chocked full when you add 30' of chain to the end. If he has less length required, might not be an issue
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Old 10-27-2015, 12:24 PM
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I read the directions and they clearly state that you should watch and spool the line. Ray directed me to have a switch at the console, one at the Reel winch which is mounted 8 feet aft of the bow, and one set on deck adjacent to the bow roller. We will find out soon.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:08 AM
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Can really tell when a builder's on a completely different level just by reading some of this conversation about layout and features. Everything has a purpose and is efficient and perfectly thought out. I think the end product is going to impress people more than you think as all these features are found packed cleanly into a platform that has the performance y'all are expecting. Nothing will look like an afterthought, and nothing's being wasted.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:37 AM
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Ray gave us clear direction. This is a fully featured boat. More boat than either of us could have contemplated when we started. It makes me feel like Young Dr. Frankenstein every time I look at it. It's Alive!!!!!!!
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:51 AM
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Just dying to see some pics of the whole baby!! Love the spec: many of the same features incorporated into my requirements list - with a twist of course:-) Jim what you sent me the other night was so helpful thanks.
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Old 10-31-2015, 06:08 AM
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"Lightspeed" is our trademark for the powerboats we build. Looking at our vented step, it is a bit Star Wars looking. Like a Klingon star ship but its purpose is to kling Not!

Years ago I did the plug work for Cal Connell's step boats. He was a pioneer in step bottom boats of Bob Hobb's designs. One of the models became more well known as the "Rybo Runner", and there were other hulls, that were sold to a company in Italy for a model known as the "42 Offshorer".

Bob Fisher (owner of Rybovitch and Spencer) and Cal were buddies from Detroit. Cal's companies built the glass parts and Rybovitch completed them. Bob did not like the appearance of the notches in the side so I filled them in and a new hull mold was made. This caused a big suction, detrimental getting on plane and whenever the water closed off the hull side. Vents had to be installed at each step. 20 years later Cal had me build plugs for the same boat, called the "Typhoon" with the notches.

Form following function eventually the look becomes accepted.
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The looks are more than acceptable and the proof with a well engineered larger single step works as good as 2 or more on the race course with a few added benefits on these CC's. I have been at Harry Schoell shop numerous times and went with him on a poker run to the Keys and we talked in depth about his patented single step on my 37 Active Thunder and a few other boat manufactures. What he said made sense, and the gentlemen is a wealth of knowledge. No offense Jim when I say this..but you old timers in the business for 40+ years have seen and done it all. Much respect. My 27 ran great, performed and rode like you stated, outperformed my 27TE WC and AC.. and I look forward to the next 44 Cat CC.
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Originally Posted by Jassman View Post
The looks are more than acceptable and the proof with a well engineered larger single step works as good as 2 or more on the race course with a few added benefits on these CC's. I have been at Harry Schoell shop numerous times and went with him on a poker run to the Keys and we talked in depth about his patented single step on my 37 Active Thunder and a few other boat manufactures. What he said made sense, and the gentlemen is a wealth of knowledge. No offense Jim when I say this..but you old timers in the business for 40+ years have seen and done it all. Much respect. My 27 ran great, performed and rode like you stated, outperformed my 27TE WC and AC.. and I look forward to the next 44 Cat CC.
Seems your next build has grown?
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I keep wondering how the trailer bunks are set up to accomodate stepped hull.
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I keep wondering how the trailer bunks are set up to accomodate stepped hull.
I will take some pics of my cradle as soon as I get my neighbors Robalo off there and get through this rainy storm. I might have some trailer pics of my Nortechs and Active Thunder Myco's..
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullshipper View Post
I keep wondering how the trailer bunks are set up to accomodate stepped hull.
With our Cat, we are able to completely support the hull by a pair of rails under the tunnel. The hull bottoms don't touch anything and there is no chance to chip the stem on a cross bar if you miss. Just getting the bow in the general vicinity of the trailer and it slides into place.

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No offense Jim when I say this..but you old timers in the business for 40+ years have seen and done it all.
I think that since my wife is seven years younger than you, that should make me as young as she feels. :-)

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It may be hard to imagine that this photo depicts the extent of the T-Top legs. They are waiting for some console paintwork to be completed before installation.

It was hard for me to imagine installing the typical T-Top on this boat. We are using the carbon fiber console to handle the sheer loads that the normal diagonal legs provide and with suitable fiberglass isolation from direct contact with the carbon fiber composite. The typical bolted pads were not in the program.

Certainly there is a certain aesthetic for an aluminum pipe job, and really the pipe welders have an artistic flair to their work and so we have curves too. The alternative for us would have been composite legs, but we have not the time in the schedule.

Kieth Modlin Welding will wrap up the handrails and rod holders, probably after we collect beer from Makomyday.
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2 mpg at 45mph.........you might end up being thirsty. I hope you get it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a offshore fishing boat that would do that. I hope you're the first
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Riptide31 View Post
2 mpg at 45mph.........you might end up being thirsty. I hope you get it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a offshore fishing boat that would do that. I hope you're the first
it will be the second I get 2 mpg going 50!
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This boat or the 40 Prowler would be awesome with a pair of 350-450 yanmars with outdrives.
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Old 11-01-2015, 02:47 PM
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or with a pair of FPT570's and XPower drives...
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it will be the second I get 2 mpg going 50!
How much fuel are you hauling getting that? That boat is a mono, correct?
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