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Old 03-02-2015, 07:46 AM
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Leakin Lena was a tugboat in the "Beanie and Cecil" (the Sea Serpent) cartoon and an artifact of my first real power boat. She was a 16', 1955 Lyman mahogany plywood lapstrake trailer queen with a 40hp Evinrude Lark that had a leak in a small area of a garboard lap joint. The 1 inch/hour of water she gained while wet and the starting battery mounted on an elevated shelf in the stern combined to give her a pronounced starboard lean if you left her at the dock for more than a couple of hours. After an overnight at the dock on Moosehead Lake in Maine before an early morning landlocked salmon excursion an observant (and concerned) fishing friend christened her Leakin Lena. I fixed the leak but the name stuck and has been passed on to subsequent boats (Biddison is Leakin Lena III).

As much as I Iike the way your bilgkote came out; my bilge cleaned up pretty well after 2-5 applications of a degreasing cleaner with multiple size stiff bristle brushes so I'm going to leave it alone. I also stripped out all unused/abandoned wiring (why do people do that!) and cleaned the wiring that was left (basically the engine and gauges harnesses) with the same cleaner and rags and/or a 3M scrunge pad. The rigging, battery placement and cable and hoses routing (she has hydraulic steering) were also a mess so I'll clean up and properly rig whatever remains that is serviceable and replace the rest.

I will put in a sonar/GPS combo eventually but want to conserve $$ for the big stuff this year (like a new fuel tank and lines). She has a decent sonar unit so I purchased a chart plotting and navigation app for my iphone from Navionics. Probably would be easier to see on an ipad but it provides everything you need and only cost $30 with charts, navigation software and autorouting feature. The Elite 5 is a great value though so please let us know how it works out,

I anticipate using some Star Board "patches" to clean up my console which was hacked out for a missing stereo, two compasses (neither of which worked), missing vhf, etc. I like the switched fuse panel idea (saves space) but my eyes are too old to see the markings on the glass fuses so I'll purchase and install the ATO/ATC fuses type which are color coded.

Would like to know where you bought your windshield; mines intact but pretty hazy and will eventually get replaced. The problem with boats is there are too many systems to replace, repair and maintain...
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:16 AM
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Darn it....just inserted a reply but the site claimed I wasnt logged in.....which i was and deleted my reply.....no energy to do it all over again.....catch up soon....I love the Leakin Lena story
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:41 AM
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Well folks....Spring is in the air.....I have been sneaking over to see the boat as often as I can. Seems like I will never finish the bow zone...I have been up front for a while. Recently I had a fiberglass guy come and repair my 2 hull blisters....$500 gone... .......My focus is to finish the front 2 belly voids and wire and install trolling motor and batteries.
Sooooooo let me seeeee this is what I did...in kind of bullet points. Removed bow nav light and front cleat...installed trolling motor base. In the anchor well up high and out of the way I installed the trolling motor plug. I have run flexible conduit through the bow under belly foam which I had mostly dug out anyway.....then through the first stringer and the wires come up through into the center console cooler where my 2 trolling motor batteries will be housed. So my boat will have 4 batteries.....no problem...just will eliminate one 100 pound guest. Now that is done will line anchor well with rubber matting so anchor doesnt continue to destroy this area......will install new bow light on 10" post to be viewed over trolling motor.....will patch bow holes w Marine Tex.......Then onto the 2 belly voids.....will install new brass through hull......and Bilge Kote both voids. Then need to install 2 new cleats and 2 new rod holders in bow zone....then done with bow!!!!.......And on to center console
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Gentlemen,
I'm glad I found this thread! Its fun to see what other Biddison owners are doing/have done with their 1800's. My father bought our 1989 Biddison 1800 in 1994 (I think) when I was about 10 yrs old. He always said that it was a great boat for us kids because of the high sides, wide beam and good ride. In the late 90's we did a major overhaul: Re-gel-coat the exterior red and painted/re-nonskid the interior with bright white imron, replaced all teak trim pieces with white starboard, new fuel tank, new yamaha 150, electronics, ect. Fast forward 15 yrs and more hours than I could count spent in that boat, she’s mine and I am finishing another minor restoration. The fuel tank we had built in the late 90’s ruptured last summer (weld seam split – no weld penetration to the base metal) and gas wound up in the bilge, destroying all of the pumps. Luckily, the foam did not get saturated with fuel (we cut some holes to check and reglassed) So, replaced fuel tank again (new tank fabricated by a reputable tank builder this time), replaced the bilge pump and float switch, bait pump, all hoses, all battery cables and primary wires that ran thru the bilge (almost all wiring was original so it was time to replace anyway). Installed new compass & having a bimini top built right now (shade for my kids).
These boats really are some of the finest riding 18 footers I’ve ever been around, of course I’m probably a little biased. I do have some questions for yall, but I’ll save those for later.
Below are a few pics of our old girl.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:58 PM
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Bo knows boats! Hey Bo welcome to the thread! I cant explain the feeling I just got when I saw that shiny red Biddison......she looks like a modern boat. Your pics have really motivated me to the next degree......also to hear from another person who has spent countless hours in a 1800 and has wonderful things to say about her. Keep in mind...I have never ridden in my boat....never even sea trialed it! I have no idea how it rides. I have almost floated mine a couple of times on sweat and tears....but thats about it. Please post more pics of that sweet ride....would love to see the console and the bilge area...including livewell pump set up. Also would love to see under your console for your wiring....and I am assuming u have 2 batteries in the console....Did u ever replace the through hull in the bow? Out of curiosity how do you use your storage compartments???? There are like 6 places to store stuff....what do u put in what?

Thanks Bo!!!!!
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My batteries are actually in the port side stern compartment. I’ve toyed with the idea of moving them under the console, but couldn’t decide the best way to do it. Before seeing a picture on this forum, I’d never thought of using the tray under the console. Now the wheels in my head are turning. We could never make the in-floor livewell maintain a reasonable liquid level so we disconnected it completely. I removed the hose going to the thru-hull. I installed a threaded plug in the valve on the thru hull, and now the compartment drains directly to the bilge and is used for wet storage. I’ve got a portable livewell that I install in the starboard rear corner when I plan on needing it. Its not the best setup, but it works. If anyone has successfully gotten the livewell to work well without virtually flooding the deck, I’m all ears. And even with the portable livewell in use, its still a lot of weight in the back of the boat.
This brings me to some of my questions:
Do most of these hulls have the self-bailing scuppers at or sometimes just below the waterline? I know that repowering with the V6 from the V4 added stern weight.
Does moving the batteries forward make that much difference to the way the boat sits in the water?
Have any of yall replaced the pedestal seats with leaning a post/cooler? Is there a manufacturer that has one off the shelf that works well in thses hulls?
For anyone who has replaced the windshield: were you able to find one without having it custom made? Where did you get it and how much did it cost?
For those who have installed stereos, did yall install rear facing speakers in the bow? How did that installation go?
Thanks any and all information!
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:55 AM
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Hey Bo.......Just my 2 cents but I think there are a few advantages of moving those batts to the CC. Weight distribution being number 1 since u are concerned about transom weight. It might also help her plane faster.....and if the stern flooded currently u would be shorted out.....if the batts were in the console u still have power. Yes we all have the self bailing large plastic scuppers. Mine had small cracks in them which let water in and compromised my transom.....check your carefully. I was able to find OEM replacements with the help of MIA Bfox.....I just purchased my new windshield and it fit like a glove. I purchased from uniquefabricationsunlimited.com ....talk to William or Mike.....$100.00....no brianer...looks great.
I removed the capt chairs immediately when I got my boat. My plans were to go with either leaning post or cooler seat. In the end...the leaning posts make the boat look sexy and have a nice rod holder option......but.....I went w cooler seat for my application. I can sit facing front or back. Completely take the weight off of my feet and relax. I can use the cooler for additional storage....livewell....or a place to put the wifes purse ......and they are hundreds cheaper then leaning posts. I purchased the Wise Boat Cooler Seat from GoToMarine part number 407539 70qt cooler price was $347.00
To be honest....the one I really wanted was the ones made by Carolina Skiff because they have color stripes in the cushions and piping colors......But again hundreds more. My plan is to use vinyl paint and paint what ever stripe I want on my cooler cushion and my new front cooler cushion to match. I have used this vinyl paint on another boat and it is tough as nails.
As for speakers....sounds like you are trying to get your music loud enough to hear while running......All I can tell u is that my speakers were installed on either side of the center console and that works for me. I purchased a set of high quality round speakers and a stereo that has enough power to push them.....but all this stuff is inexpensive these days.
Question for you Bo........Do u use the front fish box as a fish box or storage? Do u use the drain valve to drain the box that is under the 6" access cap on the deck?
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:05 PM
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Hello Biddison resto followers........sorry havent posted anything to chew on lately....the resto has been moving along kinda slow. Just wanted to let anyone who is still interested know that I am communicating off line with 3 others that are restoring Biddison 1800's.
I think that says a lot about the boat. So all 3 of those guys have checked in and contributed to this thread and now that Spring has sprung everyone is starting to make progress on their Bidi's. The cool thing is that by mid summer we will have pics on this thread of 4 Bidi 1800's that have been freshened up and recommissioned...back on the water.
As for me.....dont feel like resizing pics tonight....but I finally got the front 2 voids painted w Bilge Kote....and the bow through hull installed. I purchased several items as the resto is a bank buster...........I purchased a stainless steel swingback cooler style chair on Graigslist for $150....couldnt resist.......6 new stainless gunwale mount rod holders.......under gunwale rubber trim......under gunwale LED lights blue and white........
Next purchase will be some new closed cell foam to fill up where I dug out.........will check back soon with some pics. If anyone else is restoring a Bidi 1800 check in with me.....I would love to see your project.
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Hey guys, its been a while since I posted any updates on my Biddy. Here are some pics of the console restoration. It got almost all holes patched and all of the old switch panel and radio cutouts patched up. after lots of sanding and some PPG colormatched paint and lots of clear, she looks good as new.

The gauges got a new black starboard backing plate.

The Sea Star helm pump was rebuilt and repainted. The mount was braced with a 1/2" piece of starboard for strength.

New rubber trim was installed.

Hinged door was removed and a slide-in door was made from some aluminum angle and a 1/2 piece of starboard. It works amazingly well.

All stainless hardware was replaced except for hinges and the pin-lock latches.



I am in the process of rewiring as we speak. I hope to have that done in the next few weekends. Then onto replacing the fuel tank and recoating my floor.

I will try to be more frequent with updates in the future. Happy building!
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Forgot to mention in my last post..........the last two pics are of the leaning post i am going to use. My dad welded it up for me. Its been getting lots of sanding recently. I am going to polish it to a mirror shine then coat with something. A clear or something like that. Ive seen some clear coat for aluminum wheels out there. Has anyone ever used that stuff? Suggestions on keeping the polish in a harsh, salty environment?
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:51 AM
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Hey hey hey!!!!! The thread is alive again! Good to hear from you my friend! All I can say is wow wow wow.....fantastic work on that console. You might have to make rules like no setting stuff on the console....I like the idea of the entire gauge backing being black which matches the black plexi of the glove box and the black throttle....it ties in nice. Your leaning post is also a nice piece.....looks super strong....and u will have a lot of pride in it knowing it was custom made by your family.

As far as pics of my bidi....well....its been slow going for me...but I am about to make a full court press to get her done by the end of May... ( will never happen )

However......Bo and John have been making fast progress on their Bidis.....Bo has been installing a new top and re wiring electronics and John is knee deep w plumbing and wiring as well....

We are gunna have 4 Biddison 1800's refurbished and back on the water!!!!!! When they are all done I think I will ask Mark Biddison to take a look at our handy work..........I have always hoped that he is quietly following this thread.....
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I've decided just fix/repair mine for now now, it apparently was a dealer demo at one time with huge graphics on the side that so far no amount of rubbing, buffing or sanding has helped to remove the shadows. The boat structurally is sound there are poorly repaired screw holes all over the gunnels and I filled and sanded 12 screw holes on the transom used to mount transducers over the years. The engine may be original, a 1987 Johnson 150 cross flow that run great but uses copious amounts of fuel. I now have had it off shore several times and bloodied the deck with grouper, trout, redfish, spanish mackerel and others. I purchased mine last May and used it quite a bit in the fall and it's truly a great ride. I can live with the looks for a while as I believe the motor is now my priority. There isn't much choice for 150 hp that is as light as the current motor (less than 400 lbs) and the batteries will be moved to the console which should help with a heavier engine. Any ideas for the minimum hp for this boat? The 1800 was listed at 1500 lbs. dry weight new and I've noticed several new boats in that weight range with 115 hp. My neighbor has a 20' Tidewater that came with a Yamaha 115 and fished it many time and it does very well, it is listed at 1850 lbs. dry weight. Speed isn't a top priority, reasonable performance and fuel economy are. your thoughts are welcome.
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You guys were mentioning batteries earlier. Mine was located in one of the rear storage areas when I got the boat.

If I amnot mistaken, I think the batteries are supposed to go in the tray under the console. I have seen quite a few with this setup and I havent found any other place in the boat where batteries could be mounted very well.

With that being said, my tray was busted up pretty good, and even though I re-glassed the cracks, I dont trust the weightof two batteries in there.

My father made this nifty battery tray for me out of some aluminum. It would be easy to replicate and I can provide the dimensions if anyone i interested. It is designed to hold 2 batteries and will mount just under the tray. I mounts with the brackets the hold down the console. I will probably clean it up and paint it, then mount 2 battery boxes on it.
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Old 04-26-2015, 07:14 PM
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Randall very cool and functional idea......I must admit we have had too much off line info not being shared on this thread.....I am trying to get everybody to start posting back here again. The battery scenario was just covered by Bo.....hopefully he will post how he supported his console batt trey w angle iron for additional support......either of these ideas would work great. I will have 2 batts in my console and 2 trolling motor batts in my console cooler.......I bought some angle iron today for when I tackle this project. Randall I like the way yours ties into the console mounts....u could screw through yours then through bolt through console brackets....would be very very strong.
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Rabrook......I have the same issue with graphics on the side of my boat......the graphics " TEAM REEL QUICK " are long gone but where they used to be is slightly higher then the rest of the gel coat......from what I have heard there is no way to get it smooth again.....Im sure gunna try though. Its always nice to hear from someone that actually is using their 1800......I know you say your Bidi is a work in progress.....but I sure wish u would post a pic of her. I learn from everyone that I see. The engine I took off of my boat was the original evinrude 150.....The replacement that I bought from Craigslist is a 99 Johnson Ocean Pro 150.....fairly light...and with any luck fairly reliable and only in for $2500......the cost of new engines is a joke....I didnt even consider it. And yes....my batts were in console trey when I bought my boat. BoMiller on this thread just moved his from back to front and so did LeakinLeana sp?.....With the open transom I would think u would want that weight midship....but what do I know....I have never had my boat in the water
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Hey lewisrl4x4

I just moved my battery to the tray under the console and am wondering if you think a previous battery(ies) mashed your tray or something else. My tray seems plenty strong (held my 230 lbs and never used but I did drill 4 holes in it for a tray/hold down and plan to install another battery right next to it in the tray. Just want to know if I should consider installing stiffening angle(s) underneath.
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Leak,

I am honestly not sure what cause my cracking in the fiberglass tray. What I do know is that my console was beat to pieces. I be it has been busted and fixed probably 5 or 6 times from the looks of all the patching on the inside.

I am actually amazed that it looks as good as it does after more glass work then paint and clear. I really thought I was going to have to scrap it and go with an aftermarket. I will just use my console tray for storage now.
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Stormy here, Biddi on the trailer, I'll get some pictures posted when the sun comes back out Thursday. I am looking forward to your impressions when yours is splashed. If you hear of another deal on a similar engine, let me know. My son gave me a sea tow subscription for Christmas that gives me some piece of mind.

I can't stop comparing the 1800 with my best friends 17 Whaler and my boats ride is so much better in the northern gulf chop than his. He re-powered with a Yamaha 115 4s and burns teaspoons to my gallons of gas though.
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As jpv said, I just finished moving my batteries forward under the console. I was concerned about the weight of (2) group 27 batteries on the fiberglass shelf in rough water. My remote oil reservoir was mounted on a starboard shelf under the fiberglass shelf. I moved the oil tank to starboard and put the batteries on the lower shelf. I reinforced the starboard with aluminum angle to stiffen and reduce deflection. Also, while doing this work, I found that my oil tank holder had completely rusted through. I found a stainless steel replacement online and hope to get it installed this week.
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