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Old 12-27-2014, 07:41 PM
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Been researching bay boats a while now and these are the boats I am considering now. I plan on using the boat on Lake ST Claire which is a big body of water that gets choppy. I would like to take these boats out on the great lakes some times also when the weather is nice. The Robalo Caymen 226 the Tidewater Carolina bay 2200 the Seahunt BX22BR and the 22 baycat by twin vee are some of the boats which seem to be able to take some choppy conditions while providing a good fishing platform as well as some accommodations for the family. I would love to hear any helpful advice from knowledgable members here especialy from those who have some experience with these boats. The only boat that I can see here in my area is the Robalo which I will be taking a look at on Monday and the others are simply not here for me to see nor drive so I need your input. Some of the other boats I like are the actioncraft 2310 and the canyon bay 2400 but these boats seem out of my price range and finding used ones with room for a head at a reasonable price is unlikely. I fish artificials for bass, walleye, pike, muskie..and I have a family and friends who I plan to take along often. Money is limited so I am probably going to buy used if I can find it.
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Sure the twin vee will out ride any of the mono hull boats. Not sure about the build quality of them. I owned a 22 SH bayboat. To me it rides very well for a boat its size. Tons of storage and a huge console and room for a porta potty. Took mine over 30 miles offshore before. Has the reccessed trim tabs which really help get the bow down a chop. SH customer service is great to. SH I beleive is comming out with a 24 foot stepped hull bayboat soon. The 22 should be mid 30's with a 150 on it. Great value for what you get. There is tons of bayboats to choose from. Hard to really choose.
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Originally Posted by captain28570 View Post
Sure the twin vee will out ride any of the mono hull boats. Not sure about the build quality of them. I owned a 22 SH bayboat. To me it rides very well for a boat its size. Tons of storage and a huge console and room for a porta potty. Took mine over 30 miles offshore before. Has the reccessed trim tabs which really help get the bow down a chop. SH customer service is great to. SH I beleive is comming out with a 24 foot stepped hull bayboat soon. The 22 should be mid 30's with a 150 on it. Great value for what you get. There is tons of bayboats to choose from. Hard to really choose.
Is the 150 enough to get the seahunt on plane with a bunch of guys in the boat? Is the ride in the seahunt pretty dry? The sneeze of the cats worries me a bit because you do not want to get wet in April or November in Michigan waters..
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I had a t-top on mine. It runs 45 with half fuel and a few people. Cruised 30 mph at 4000 rpms. My brother has pretty much the same boat but a 1 foot shorter. I use to fish with him all the time offshore with 4 people and 150 gallon cooler full of ice. Had tackle and gear to. Got on a plane with no problem. The trim tabs work great. Its a very dry boat for its size. I go boating down a canal where there is plenty of 30 foot plus cabin cruisiers. Of course they throw a huge wake. I can do 30 mph right threw the wake with the tabs down and never get slammed. Just cuts right threw it.
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The main thing is the 200 will cost you atleast 3 to 4 grand more for marginal gains. The 250 is a rocket but a lot more money.The 150 is more like 165 HP.
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IMO the 3 boats (Robalo, Sea Hunt, and Tidewater) are in different classes. Don't know anything about the SeaVee.

Robalo is a premium boat;
Sea Hunt is a midrange boat
Tidewater is a value boat.

I would guess that the prices should reflect that, but I think that Robalo has been fairly aggressive recently in pricing their boats that are 22 feet and below.

I am in the process of buying a Robalo (R247) so you know where my biased preference lies. IMO there is no comparison between a Robalo and a Tidewater. Not bashing Tidewater, but the comparison is Value vs. Premium.
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Dealer near me sells both Tidewater and Robalo. Look closely at things which matter such as the hull deck joint, neatness of wiring, accessibility to components such as bilge pumps, hoses etc. Then compare the prices based upon what you see. The Robalo is prettier but also heavier due to much chopper gun being used in the construction. That equates to more engine horsepower to get her going. Can't speak to the Tidewater construction as I never owned one of those, but casual observation did not turn up anything negative.
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Oh by the way, a friend of mine picked up a 29' Hydra Sports CC with twin E Techs which for the money (he paid around 35K) with trailer is one hell of a boat. I believe he found it for sale on the internet, traveled a couple of states over to get it. If I recall it's somewhere around 2007 model. You can get a heck of a lot more boat if you go used.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ross View Post
The Robalo is prettier but also heavier due to much chopper gun being used in the construction.
You are gonna have to back that one up. The only time I have ever heard this is your post on the other thread. Everybody uses chopper guns these days. Robalo is heavier because they use a lot of material. There is nothing I can find to support that it is due to chopper gun. And there is no internet noise about any robalo hull issues that I have been able to find......

I am not doubting that this is what your dealer said.....I am doubting that your dealer was correct.
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Originally Posted by 6104696 View Post
IMO the 3 boats (Robalo, Sea Hunt, and Tidewater) are in different classes. Don't know anything about the SeaVee.

Robalo is a premium boat;
Are Robalo's now the same level as Regulator, Southport, Yellowfin etc?
We know you just ordered a new Robalo and we are all happy for you but how many hours do you have on one? Did you take a sea trial before you ordered your boat? I looked at Robalo a few years ago and thought upper mid tier at best but did not like the lines of the boat.

I like how you quote the internet on the things you want to hear about Robalo and Yam 350 but dismiss any negatives!

Good Luck with the boat and please give all the advice you want after you get some hours on the boat and motor.
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Originally Posted by Ocean4598 View Post
Are Robalo's now the same level as Regulator, Southport, Yellowfin etc?
We know you just ordered a new Robalo and we are all happy for you but how many hours do you have on one? Did you take a sea trial before you ordered your boat? I looked at Robalo a few years ago and thought upper mid tier at best but did not like the lines of the boat.

I like how you quote the internet on the things you want to hear about Robalo and Yam 350 but dismiss any negatives!

Good Luck with the boat and please give all the advice you want after you get some hours on the boat and motor.
wait...what? Have I wronged you somehow? You are free to disagree with me on whatever you want....but why come after me? How about answering the OP's question rather than cyberstalking or cyberbullying?
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Isn't there a beautiful Canyon Bay 2400 on THT for sale around mid 40's....might be worth taking a look.

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Originally Posted by 6104696 View Post
wait...what? Have I wronged you somehow? You are free to disagree with me on whatever you want....but why come after me? How about answering the OP's question rather than cyberstalking or cyberbullying?
I just wanted to know how much time you have had on a Robola or with a Yam 350 before you give out advice. As said before good luck with the new boat.

To the OP, I am very happy with my Sea Hunt and I have just about 200Hrs on the boat now with no major issues. We do 2-3 offshore fishing trips a year but mainly use it on the Chesapeake for cruising and striper fishing.
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I looked at all 4. Twin Vee was bare bones. Nope.. Robalo= I looked at one of the first 226 and the hull was "wavy" . Tidewater and SH seemed like brothers from another mother. Pretty much the same. I went with the Triton due to the cost since I bought mine used. I have 300 hours/3000 miles on mine and ANY issue I have had SH fixed under warranty even with me being the 2nd owner. It was a toss up for me between the TW and SH.
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Originally Posted by 6104696 View Post
wait...what? Have I wronged you somehow? You are free to disagree with me on whatever you want....but why come after me? How about answering the OP's question rather than cyberstalking or cyberbullying?

I speak from experience and will be happy to post a picture of the hull cutout and you can then tell me what all that "fill" is between the lower layer of roving and mat and the upper layer. I'm not bashing anything, just passing along useful information. I used to belong to several Robabo forums including the factory run site. They refused to answer my question regarding the chopper gun but the dealer (who has witnessed it) was happy to do so. The chunk you see is about 1.250" thick.
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Originally Posted by Ocean4598 View Post
I just wanted to know how much time you have had on a Robola or with a Yam 350 before you give out advice. As said before good luck with the new boat.

To the OP, I am very happy with my Sea Hunt and I have just about 200Hrs on the boat now with no major issues. We do 2-3 offshore fishing trips a year but mainly use it on the Chesapeake for cruising and striper fishing.

I agree Ocean, if someone is looking for objective opinions of a product it's nice to hear from owners of same for an assessment. Having owned one for several years I can say that they have good and bad points but I won't go in to all of that. However, the OP is welcome to PM me and I will provide a phone number to discuss it all. The boat I have now is nowhere near high end (but neither is the Robalo), but it suits my needs and the price was right.
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Originally Posted by Ocean4598 View Post
I just wanted to know how much time you have had on a Robola or with a Yam 350 before you give out advice.
I have been on several Robalos and several Sea Hunts. Never been out on a Tidewater but have spoken to owners and crawled all over several. I am not about to get into an internet peeing contest to see has more valuable experience. I also spent a lot of time evaluating these and other brands before purchasing.

I have never ridden on a Yamaha 350 powered boat, which is completely irrelevant to this thread and which is why I asked questions on the other thread. How many Yam 350's have you owned? You seem to have strong opinions about it. Is long term ownership a requisite for an opinion?

I have not given advice, I have given my opinion, which the OP asked for and which you are free to disagree with.

As to Mr. Ross, he made a statement which did not comport with my experience; I asked him to back it up. He did. End of story. I might dispute internet garbage, I might disagree with an opinion, but I will not dispute supported facts.

If anybody would back up any of the Yamaha 350 internet garbage with facts the way Mr. Ross did, that would have been a much shorter thread.

OP....all nice boats that you are looking at. One other point that I might bring up is to research the dealers that you are working with and that will service the boat. A bad dealer can ruin an otherwise great boat and buying experience.......while a good dealer.....well you get the idea (that may qualify as part opinion and part advice; I hope that is OK with this crowd).
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Don't know why they don't sell more. The Robalo is a dang well built, heavy & that's a good thing boat.
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Don't know why they don't sell more. The Robalo is a dang well built, heavy & that's a good thing boat.
For me it was ( was looking at the 200 and 220
A. No negotiating on prices
B. The steering wheel placement was huge.
C. The dealer that I looked at them they seemed underpowered (R220 w/ a 150) and no trim tabs on any of them. Salesman said they dont need trim tabs thats why they dont order them.

My salesman also said they fill the hull with foam until it comes out of some hole then cut the excess foam off. Does that mean its a chopper gun boat?
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Originally Posted by 6104696 View Post
IMO the 3 boats (Robalo, Sea Hunt, and Tidewater) are in different classes. Don't know anything about the SeaVee.

Robalo is a premium boat;
Sea Hunt is a midrange boat
Tidewater is a value boat.

I would guess that the prices should reflect that, but I think that Robalo has been fairly aggressive recently in pricing their boats that are 22 feet and below.

I am in the process of buying a Robalo (R247) so you know where my biased preference lies. IMO there is no comparison between a Robalo and a Tidewater. Not bashing Tidewater, but the comparison is Value vs. Premium.
Tell us about the differences in gel coat on each boat. Tell us about the differences in the lay-up schedule of each boat. Tell us about the differences in resin in each boat. Tell us about the differences in hull and cap bonding on each boat. Tell us about the differences in coring materials. Tell us about the differences in wiring and hardware on each boat. I eagerly await the enlightenment that is surely shortly forthcoming.

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