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Old 11-15-2014, 08:14 AM
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Want to get thought and ideas.

Pros and cons of Custom Carolina style sport fisherman vs Viking or Cabo.

Looking to buy 2007 or newer 46 to 54 foot .

There are quit a few options out there at the moment .

Let me know what you think

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Old 11-15-2014, 08:30 AM
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Go throw this into google:

custom production sportfisherman site:www.thehulltruth.com

Lots of existing answers.
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If it's a convertible you want, stay away from the Cabo 52. Ask me how I know
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And the Cabo 47/48. There were a few users on here who have abysmal reviews on ride quality. Overall, the customs will ride better and be more efficient, while the production will offer more space, and less maintenance, due to the general lack of wood and bright work in comparison to custom boats.
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I've built a custom Carolina cold molded, and have run a bunch of production boats. The Carolina hull is much lighter and needs much less power and fuel to do the job. My 38 single engine is faster than a Cabo 35 with twice the hp. And half the fuel.

Construction quality varies a lot with Carolina builds. Some are excellent, some are pretty on the surface, but in hidden areas they can be a mess. Production boats the quality is more consistent.

Modern Carolina boats tend to have huge engines to get that 35kt plus speed, which I think is a waste. Load a Carolina boat with all that engine and fuel weight and the magic of the hull is lost. IMHO, that is.

Power one for 25kt cruise and 30kt top, and keep the weight out, and they are truly awesome.
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Interesting report on the Cabo's


I have heard for years that the ride and rough weather capability was some of the best.

I was aware that the 43 was one of there worst hulls ,but did not expect the 48 to have issues also

I guess some has also not been happy with there 52

What other production boat builders would you guys recommend ?

Seems there is only Hatteras and Ocean .
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In that range of 46 to 54, you have viking, Hatt, Ocean, Post, Egg Harbor, Henriques 50 if you can find one. check out the Wesmac 46 and 50, Buddy Davis 52 (now a fiberglass boat, it's not the custom of before) vicem 54 (maybe??) and that's about it.
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There are a few Post 53's that may be worth a look. So far I like my 50 quite a bit, but as many have said/heard, the head sea ride is very wet.
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I am just one boater, but I went form a 36 YF to a 54 Viking a few years ago. When I was looking I never really considered a custom Carolina boat as in that size range there really were not many that fit my criteria (speed, room, mezzanine, rep. etc...) I have been more than happy with my boat and Viking as a company.
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Originally Posted by fabman42 View Post
Interesting report on the Cabo's


I have heard for years that the ride and rough weather capability was some of the best.

I was aware that the 43 was one of there worst hulls ,but did not expect the 48 to have issues also

I guess some has also not been happy with there 52

What other production boat builders would you guys recommend ?

Seems there is only Hatteras and Ocean .
Not sure where you heard that about the 43 as I have one and they are one of the best deep v hulls Cabo made. Excellent in head sea and dry. You will get some roll while drifting.
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That's quite and interesting range for your budget. Define your budget then your needs and wants and then what boats will fall in that range. Tell us what you want to spend.
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Originally Posted by PtJudeRI View Post
In that range of 46 to 54, you have viking, Hatt, Ocean, Post, Egg Harbor, Henriques 50 if you can find one. check out the Wesmac 46 and 50, Buddy Davis 52 (now a fiberglass boat, it's not the custom of before) vicem 54 (maybe??) and that's about it.
Cavileer has a boat in that size range as well.
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I reference to range ,I'm Wide open !!

I have seen Vikings as follows

46 2010 949 k
52 2008 995 k
50 2009 1.01k
48 2007 799 k

Ocean

54 2008 699 k
54 2009 799 k

Cabo

48 2008 779 k
48 2007 689 k


I have not really done a lot of research on the customs. That is why I asked the question here before I spent the time searching
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If you had a million to spend I'd look at this 91 44' Garlington 1.1 mil. Just refit. It's not a Carolina boat. It was made in Stuart. Don't leave the south FL builders off your list like Rybovich, ACY, Merritt, Garlington etc. With customer builders your looking at much older boats for the same money usually with a recent refit and maintained in excellent condition. The hold their value much better than a Viking or other mass produced boat would.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-com...n-thunder.html

2001 55' Jarrett Bay $569K

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2001...s#.VGjTmIc70qY

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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992...s#.VGjQbH-9KSM
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OP ... wants 2007 or newer and 46 to 54 feet ..... why mention a 44 footer from 1991 ( yes I know it was updated) ..... doesn't anyone read anymore ?

Cabo is out of business.... take that for what its worth as far as subsequent support.

The Custom Carolina guys, in my opinion, are more likely to have inconsistent construction particularly in the hard to see but critical areas of the hull, stringers, etc etc ....

Companies like Viking, in my opinion have more consistent production/construction .....

Ocean makes a good second tier vessel generally ... their production numbers aren't in the same league as Viking the past several years .... just don't know how the 2008's to date Oceans are going to hold up long-term as they are still relatively "new".... hopefully they didn't skimp on build quality/build materials as their production numbers dove down the past few years ...

Personally.... I would go with a Viking ...... if you can get one not fished hard, that's a great plus ...
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That revenge is a sweet rig. The tower, although amazing, may not be too practical. Built in a time when taller was better.
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In your year range if will be very hard if not impossible to find a custom with the same price range. If you are open to a custom then you need to be open to look at a few older boats.

The Vikings are very nice. Well built boats, great interiors, well thought out cockpits, organized engine rooms, and the list goes on. Not to mention solid factory support if you are near the service center in PB or up north. With that said a viking us just another production boat. Nice and fits a need in the market but in the end, when you are looking to buy it's just like eating skittles, pick a color.

When we were looking for a larger sportfish we looked at a bunch of customs and a few Vikings. Viking 50 2009 that was in Lauderdale to be specific. Overall the Viking ranked very high but whenever you talk about the boat or see her sitting at the dock there is nothing special, just another viking. The customs have character, are usually one of a kind, and offer unparalleled styling when compared to the viking.

In the end we went custom. Much smaller than we had anticipated but our Ryco/Rybovich has been amazing. Ride is great, fuel economy is perfect, and being a walk around designed for sailfishing she fishes like a dream. Not to mention she was hand laid and designed by Michael Rybovich. I wouldn't trade her for any production boat on the market.
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Originally Posted by PtJudeRI View Post
That revenge is a sweet rig. The tower, although amazing, may not be too practical. Built in a time when taller was better.
Agree. Most people will probably average a new tower or hardtop into the final sale price.

Definitely a cool boat though.
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From your list I would say the 54 Ocean ... For the money-- the size of that boat, the fact that it's "new" ... Would be hard to beat ... I have a new bottom 50 and its a great boat -- 54 is a good riding boat
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