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Old 11-09-2014, 03:32 AM
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Default Building plans for a bay boat with Carolina Flare (16 to 18ft)

Hi,

I am new to this thread. I was just wondering if anyone knows of any boat building plans for a 16 to 17 foot bay boat with Carolina Flare?

I love the look of the 17 Inshore by Envi Boats.
http://www.enviboats.com/home/the-bo...r-console.html
Have heard mixed results from the final product though.


Also, really like the Carolina Sportfish 23 from Bateau
http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=CS23
Unfortunately its too large for what I would like to build.


The Hill 16 from Cerny Yacht designs is attractive, but looking for more of an open center console.
http://cernyyachtdesign.com/power/ce...t/the-hill-16/



Would anyone know if I could scale down the CS23 to 17ft?

Also, Are there any other plans/designs that anyone can recommend? Essentially I am limited to about 17 ft, and a beam of about 7.2 ft.

Any recommendations, comments, or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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I love Envi's 17 and wish I had the skills to build one. I don't have anything to add, but would love to watch you build one. Envi has some great designs. Would you be building it yourself?
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B&B yacht designs Ocracoke 20 has great reviews and several of the professional builders on these forum recommend them. Another one at B&B is the Marissa. Do a search and you will find lots of threads on here about most of the brands you have mentioned.
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Layton Bay has a 19' in the works I do believe.
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Thank you for the responses.

The Ocracoke looks great. Would it be possible to scale it by 10% both length and beam without to many issues? I assume once you have the drawings, just multiply all the measurements by 90%?

The Layton Bay looks great, but did not see an option to buy building plans on their website.


Any other boat plans out there?

Also has anyone else built the Envi 17? The lines look amazing, and its the perfect size, but from what I have read the ride is not that great? And feedback or suggestions on the Envi would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jciorun View Post
Thank you for the responses.

The Ocracoke looks great. Would it be possible to scale it by 10% both length and beam without to many issues? I assume once you have the drawings, just multiply all the measurements by 90%?

The Layton Bay looks great, but did not see an option to buy building plans on their website.


Any other boat plans out there?

Also has anyone else built the Envi 17? The lines look amazing, and its the perfect size, but from what I have read the ride is not that great? And feedback or suggestions on the Envi would be appreciated.

Thanks
Do some looking around on here regarding envi boats, I am not qualified enough to have an opinion, but just saying do some searching.
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For Gods sake, DO your homework!!!
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Originally Posted by jciorun View Post
Hi,

I am new to this thread. I was just wondering if anyone knows of any boat building plans for a 16 to 17 foot bay boat with Carolina Flare?

I love the look of the 17 Inshore by Envi Boats.
http://www.enviboats.com/home/the-bo...r-console.html
Have heard mixed results from the final product though.


Also, really like the Carolina Sportfish 23 from Bateau
http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=CS23
Unfortunately its too large for what I would like to build.


The Hill 16 from Cerny Yacht designs is attractive, but looking for more of an open center console.
http://cernyyachtdesign.com/power/ce...t/the-hill-16/



Would anyone know if I could scale down the CS23 to 17ft?

Also, Are there any other plans/designs that anyone can recommend? Essentially I am limited to about 17 ft, and a beam of about 7.2 ft.

Any recommendations, comments, or feedback would be greatly appreciated.
You are all over the place when it comes to boat sizes. For starters the Bateau boat is no where even close to the rendering when it comes to any and all flared boats. The 16 is a cute boat but a small boat. Just the freeboard on the 16 and the envi boats in the smaller sizes makes the boats less favorable for fishing. solely in windy conditions, depending on your use. Be prepared for a lot of work. Figure out how and where you plan on using your boat and the people you plan on carrying as a rule and then look around and do your homework on a favorable design for your needs. Ask other like builders for any and all designs, if you are a newcomer to the boating scene before you get yourself involved solely in profile lusting.
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Not really a Carolina flare, but you could scale down a Tolman Standard and have an outstanding bay boat that is easy to build:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolman_Skiff
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I would also go with the ocracoke. You should be able to have it slightly scaled down. What is the reason for your size restrictions?
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Originally Posted by jciorun View Post
Thank you for the responses.

The Ocracoke looks great. Would it be possible to scale it by 10% both length and beam without to many issues? I assume once you have the drawings, just multiply all the measurements by 90%?

The Layton Bay looks great, but did not see an option to buy building plans on their website.


Any other boat plans out there?

Also has anyone else built the Envi 17? The lines look amazing, and its the perfect size, but from what I have read the ride is not that great? And feedback or suggestions on the Envi would be appreciated.

Thanks
If you want to build a 19 I can help you, I actually have a jig for a 19. Give me a call, I can get you all set up and will help you along the way. Call me if your Intrested. 252-333-5081 thanks Doug
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Originally Posted by jlipsky14 View Post
I would also go with the ocracoke. You should be able to have it slightly scaled down. What is the reason for your size restrictions?
Unfortunately I am limited by space in the garage. Max I can go is 18 feet, 17 would be perfect, although can't seem to find anything other than the envi in that style of boat. Love the lines as mentioned, but after researching the envi, it seems not to many people are happy with the finished product. (In that size) seems like the larger envis are fine.
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Originally Posted by laytonboatworks View Post
If you want to build a 19 I can help you, I actually have a jig for a 19. Give me a call, I can get you all set up and will help you along the way. Call me if your Intrested. 252-333-5081 thanks Doug
Would love to. Trouble is I am half way around the world. I'm in Australia.

Would you have a set of plans, or CNC files which I can use to cut a jig?
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Would love to. Trouble is I am half way around the world. I'm in Australia.
Hey mate, have you look at these designs.
http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/
Have a look at the RipTide XR 457.
http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com...ide_XR457.html
Mark has a great forum for the builders and offers one on one contact when you need it.
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Originally Posted by jciorun View Post
Would love to. Trouble is I am half way around the world. I'm in Australia.

Would you have a set of plans, or CNC files which I can use to cut a jig?
I could get plans and even fill size drawings to loft your frames
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Just be aware that you boat will need to be Australian Builders Plate compliant. Without it, you won't be able to register your boat
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For Gods sake, DO your homework!!!
Do you have an info on the Envi designs? I've been looking but don't see much
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Originally Posted by Team Seaside View Post
Do you have an info on the Envi designs? I've been looking but don't see much
If you have some time search GCC and find his 27' build.

You will learn all you want to know about Envi.

That's all I am going to say.
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If you have some time search GCC and find his 27' build.

You will learn all you want to know about Envi.

That's all I am going to say.
I did find that. Gonna take sometime to read through 284 pages
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I did find that. Gonna take sometime to read through 284 pages
If you are going to build your own boat it is well worth the time.

Some great boat builders contributed to GCC's build thread.
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