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Old 09-14-2005, 07:09 AM
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Had " NEW 6.0 Ford " for 4 months towed 3 times ford purchased back--- now have chevy with LLY run great however my mileage in 17+ ( @ 2K RPM )not the 19+ like others claim--- Dodge has a great back seat setup-- great motor--Tranny SUCKS!!!-- 4 in fish camp ALL have had rebuilt or replaced--??? who wants to shift gears-- I am too old!!! If Toy bring the 250hp Diesel with 400lbs torque in the Tunndra --GM ,FORD, and Dodge are going to be hurt---Who needs 300HP and 600 lbs torque very few people---- I would like a trunk that rides great , has room ,4 doors and gets 25+ mph @ 70
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:14 PM
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Guys: Just an update . I made my deal today on the Duramax GMC, It was a hard decision, but all the post on this thread help. I drove both the Ford and the chevrolet again, and although I really like the Ford style and exterior design, the Duramax was quieter and the 6 speed allison transmission was the deal maker. I got a great deal with that GM employee price and rebate, so I just pull the trigger. Thanks for everyones input. Rangerman

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Old 09-17-2005, 09:36 PM
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I think you made a good choice. Now go to truckperformance.com and buy your chip. I got the Hypertech. It was $350 including rebates and shipping. I've had mine in for about a week and I'm getting about 2 more mpg(about 20.5).
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:14 AM
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With any of these deisels and the amount of HP/torque they are putting out why would ya chip one?Seems to me it might give the dealer/manufacturier a way out if a problem should arrise.From what I gather the weak link is the tranny on all,so by adding a chip invites trouble
All of this added torque will also add stress to the frame especially when pullin very heavy loads.Dodge had a problem with some of their earlier trucks with frame crackin and they wern`t put out nowhere the amount of torque of these newer trucks.Any Chevy,Ford,Dodge have more than enough power to do what any of us will ask of them,it all boils down to what ya like and the deal ya can get.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:23 AM
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I second the chip concerns on voiding the warranty. It's happening more and more. All the manufacturers are refusing to honor some warranty claims if the engine has an after market performance chip installed. If you do "chip" the truck, be sure to remove it before taking the truck in for service work.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:41 AM
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I have a 1996 Ford F350 PSD. w/294,000 miles on the original motor.

I tow my boat and Lance Camper with it since new. I average 15 to 17 MPG without load
I average 13 to 15 with the boat (8500 lbs) on the back with the camper and boat too it drops way down because of the size and the wind catcher raise front in trailer but never the less only get 8 to 10 depends on the direction of the wind. The most dependable truck I have ever had. I have been an ongoing senior member of the Ford Truck Diesel site since around 1998. It discusses everything about the Ford Diesel at length. Right now my understanding is the PSD 6.0 ltr engine is a nightmare and has been a serious problem from Ford and there is plenty of complaining about the truck engine, but the truck I have is the 7.3 ltr. Check out the site I am sure you will find plenty of information on this site to make you decision on Ford. Regarding DuraMax I don’t own nor have I owned any GM products for over 30 years. Check out "The Diesel Stop" here is the forum section so you can choose what you want to review http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthreads/

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1996 Ford F350 PSD 4x4, Crew Cab, 5 Speed Manuel Transmission, 355 Differentials, 40 Gallon Transfer Flow Tank Center & 18 Gallon Rear, Rancho 9000’s Shocks, Rancho Steering Wheel Dampener, Auxiliary Idle Controller by Sparky, Velvet Rides, Maddog Stage 1 Injectors, Superchips 70 horse power chip w/130 Torq, ISSPRO Gauges in A-Pillar Pyrometer & Boost, Dash Cluster - Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Trans Temp, Hypermax Down Pipe, TYMAR, Nathan P-3 Train Horns, ViAir Air Onboard Compressor, ViAir 2 Gallon Air Tank & Air Tool Valve, Viper Alarm System, LUK Clutch, Draw-Tite Front & Rear Receivers, Poly Shock Bushings, Computer Stand, Earth Mate GPS System, Swing Out Towing Mirrors, Rebel Pickup Shell, Fumoto Drain Valve, TYMAR Intake, No Kat, PIAA Lights, Diamond Plate Rail Caps, Dura-Liner Bed Liner, Bed Slide, Carr Side Steps, BF Goodrich KO's 295's, Cobra CB 29 Classic LTD, Pioneer Premier 8400 CD-CDR-CDRW-WMA, XM Satellite Radio, Infinity Front Speakers, Altec Lancing 3 Way Rear Speakers, Kicker ProComp "VR" "10" Subwoofer.

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Old 09-18-2005, 06:04 PM
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I own neither but have friends and family that are happy with both trucks . No American made truck will be as trouble free as a Toyota but no Toyota can out pull an American 3/4 - 1 ton truck . Do your research . I like the Ford frame and sheet metal over the GM . At this moment in time I'd go with Ford .
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:44 PM
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I have 2003 GMC with DMax/Alli combo, 2wd. I get 17 mpg combination and over 20 mpg highway. If you keep your foot out of it, it will do OK. Towing the boat I get 13 to 14 mpg at 70+ mph.

Only problem is with a front wheel hub bearing that went out at around 75K. Might have been due to the soaking it got last year on Grand Isle when that tropical storm blew in. Have about 88K now and still like the truck.

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Old 09-18-2005, 07:09 PM
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I love the Duramax and even the Powerstrokes...but I have to speak up for my Dodge Cummins. I have 242,000 miles on my '99 Dodge 2500 4X4 Cummins today...runs like a top and makes 20 mpg with no tow at 70mph...of which I put on 15,000 miles each year by triple-towing a 32' 5th Wheel (14,000lbs) and 18' FG boat/trailer. We are just at the max of 75' overall length for a lot of western states, provinces, and Baja. (Some we have to 'sneak through') I go over the Rockies, through summer deserts, and pull at freeway speeds on the flats. Everything weighs in around 23,500 lbs...lots more if we have to take the mother-in-law. Most other times I am pulling a boat, carhauler, or horse trailer. Having some experience before and talking to other Dodge owners, I added a tranny cooler after leaving the showroom floor...hooked up and went. The only problem I have had is replacing the clutch fan this last summer in 110 degree heat going up the grade in Mohave desert. One thing, though...my mother-in-law complains of the Cummins' loud engine....I like it.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:13 PM
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Anyone have any experience with the diesel "tuner" such as the edge, looks great to be able to control the power setting at the touch of a button.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:25 PM
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Edge is great if you can steal fuel-- Frien d has construction co. and get ' free fuel" the Edge will smoke the tires however MHP down stright down-- you have feed the breast no matter what color--- or Name!!! I would a detune chip--- give me 250 HP 400 lb torque and 25-27 mph toy will in the future!! PS I have LLY durmax and only get 17- 17.5 I am honest--- pleas bring those 4x4 that get 20+ and lets check them out!!!
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:34 PM
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Eyehooker...never really cared for anything east of the Mississippi, but if you pay the fuel.....why not?
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:48 PM
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Bajafisher-- maybe a Geography lesson would be appropriate --- I have veiwed your post--- PS West Virginia --- all but 4 Counties are below the Mason Dixon Line--And a long way East of the Might Mississippe-- the Ohio is my back yard and at this time last year-- Sept 17, 2004 was in my house --- The Ohio flows south from Pittsburg, Pa where it is formed by the Mon( FYI which flows North) and the Allegheny- (FYI) all three rivers are named for Indians--- Ohio ( which means High Backs)--125.3 to my location on the Ohio--I don't have to hide where I live --- yours " Bay of Conception" Baja--- or HAHA Just maybe on the LEFT COAST--- they are at Little Why not ask your favorite Sen. Boxer---
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:06 PM
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I love the programmers. Edge has a nice product. I have never had a loss of MPG from adding one, aside from not being able to keep my foot out of it, if I'm cruising and being nice I've gained mileage on all three trucks from programmers.
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:25 PM
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I LOVE POWER !!!! I just don't want to PAY!! The Edge cost 600.00 how many miles does it take to get the return on the price--- How many " extra" miles -- I can do the math-- when I purhcased a " Diesel" with the advantage " 20 cents less" now gone!!---I can make these things go fast--- been doing for 40 years--- I just want MILEAGE---- I can tell you the secrect---Octane!! US is around 40-- the Swedens have fuel that is 20 pts above ours--- you don't need Shi---t and they run like hell!!!! Just add the fuel and the mileage goes up
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Old 09-19-2005, 12:26 AM
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WOW... Guess I shouldn't tell eyehooker that well in excess of 20 is possible with a diesel... My '03 Ram, 2500, 2WD, 5.9L Cummins, 4spd auto, and 4.10:1 axle regularily pulls 20-23. It has 104K to date, with 34,875 of that towing boats, toys, etc. of at least 5K in weight.

My last trip in June to a family reunion in MO, covering 3576 miles, resulted in a round-trip avg. of 24.7 mpg. That's from "Way out West" Arizona, to St. Louis, MO - & back, using WolfCreek Pass as my Continental Divide crossing both ways.

I did NOT try to drive 75 - 80, because I know what those speed do to fuel use. I tried to maintain 63-65mph, but NEVER crowded it on hills, or into headwinds. Oh yeah... The trip took longer... 1.5 hours each way longer... I've driven that trip so often I can do it in my sleep. I've done it "flying" and done it like fuel was $$pricey... Think I'l keep speeds down from now on... My wallet was MUCH happier...

My overall avg for the whole 104K, since day one is just shy of 19.

My buddy has the identical truck (except he has 3.73 gears, and we travel together quite a bit. He typically gets 17-18, where I'm pulling 20-21, driving the same places, at pretty much the same speeds. When I told him it was in the differences in the way we drove, he laughed and called my bluff. So... we switched rigs for the return trip home, and our fuel mileages went with the driver. I still got 20-21, and he still got 17-18, but driving the other guys vehicle.

Want fuel mileage improvements of 10% or more without spening $600 on a chip? Drive it like there was an egg under the accelerator pedal, and if you broke that egg, it would release a poisonous gas, that you would die from ... Bettrer yet, drove it like fuel costs in excess of $3 per gallon... Oh Yeah... And KEEP the speeds to a max of 65.
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:55 AM
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Great Mileage--- The pre 4.5 ---5.9 can get 20+ if you keep your foot out it--- Any Tranny troubles yet???--- My comments were directed toward Duramax
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Eyehooker - 9/18/2005 11:25 PM

I LOVE POWER !!!! I just don't want to PAY!! The Edge cost 600.00 how many miles does it take to get the return on the price--- How many " extra" miles -- I can do the math-- when I purhcased a " Diesel" with the advantage " 20 cents less" now gone!!---I can make these things go fast--- been doing for 40 years--- I just want MILEAGE---- I can tell you the secrect---Octane!! US is around 40-- the Swedens have fuel that is 20 pts above ours--- you don't need Shi---t and they run like hell!!!! Just add the fuel and the mileage goes up
Octane has exactly no impact on diesel fuel economy.
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:46 PM
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'05 F350 SRW Crew Cab 4x4. 7500 miles now, overall avg fuel economy 16.02 mpg. Best tank 18.58 mpg. Towing the Carolina (11000 lbs on the trailer), it gets 10.5 mpg. No problems to date, runs great, puts a big azz smile on my face every time I start it up and every time I mash the go pedal.

I bought it not for the mileage, but the ability to pull the boat. I do know its back there too. Anyone who says otherwise with this kind of load is smoking crack.

On edit: mileage is steadily getting better. I hear these things take a lot longer than gassers to get broken in.
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Old 09-19-2005, 07:40 PM
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Neither!!! Cummins...It does the same thing the V8's do with 6 cylinders and gets better gas mileage than the V8's..
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