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Old 04-07-2014, 01:47 PM
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Default Looking for Pursuit Boat owners with balsa core damage from water infiltration.

I am the owner of a 1999 Pursuit Express. After reading some unsettling post on this board I hired a surveyor to take moisture readings on my hull. Like other Pursuits of this age I have significant water intrusion into the balsa core in multiple areas. Not surprisingly, there is a thru hull in each location. My insurance agent told me not to bother filing a claim under the "latent defect" clause because they never pay. Manufacturing defects are not covered and most likely the hull, not the thru hull, would be considered defective. Pursuit has been unresponsive as well. I know of a second Pursuit with similar problems who was rejected by his insurance co. and Pursuit stating that it was a 15 year old hull and out of warranty. Repair estimates ran into the tens of thousands. Clearly theses boats are meant to last for than 15 years. I'm learning, a little late in the game, that this is a well known problem in this age Pursuit. Core issues in the 30, 34, and 38 Express have been documented by several members on this board. I'm reaching to those of you who feel that Pursuit Boats is responsible for their financial loss. The real problems are that if and you want to sell your boat it does not take a rocket scientist to find the problem. Also, once you've identified the problem the repairs are costly and timely. A company with a good reputation like Pursuit should step up and do the right thing. If they won't then its up to us to stand up and fight back. If your interested in joining us please send me a PM, an e-mail to gkardon@gmail.com, or call me 774-249-2622. If you someone who has had similar problems or Tiara owners with similar problems please pass my info along. Thanks,
Geoffrey

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Isn't 'Class Action Suit' a French term for, 'only the lawyers make money'?
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I recently sold a 2001 34' Pursuit Express fish that fortunately did not have this problem. However, the surveyor did tell me it was a common problem among Pursuits and Tiaras (you might want to add Tiara owners to this). He claimed the problem resulted from not sealing the various thru-hull fittings with epoxy to seal them properly, using 5200 or the like instead. He bragged about failing the last 6-7 Tiaras he surveyed!

Now I have to say my Pursuit was the best boat I have ever owned - great in rough seas & very well built overall, but I sweated several gallons of sweat during the survey from an obviously anti Pursuit/Tiara surveyor.

Before I bought my Pursuit I looked at another 34' model at a marina in Boynton Beach. It had dozens of holes drilled in it and a number of plastic tubes connected to a pump that was draining water from the hull! So obviously this is not an isolated [problem. As great as Pursuits/Tiaras are, if you want to buy one GET A SURVEY!

My next boat may very well be a Pursuit, despite all this.
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Sorry to sound cynical to your cause, but in my opinion you are peeing into an artificial wind. Sounds to me like a side street lawyer thinks if he can get enough people to play along he can get S2 to write a check to make him go away. Don't think in this case he is correct. The facts don't wash, and the target is not one easily coerced.
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I appreciate all the comments, cynical or not, but really all I'm interested in finding a few other Pursuit or Tiara owners with the same problem who want to pursue it further. Nothing more. I don't really want to argue the merits of the case Everyone has an opinion. The fact that every thru hull leaks speaks for itself.
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Just for the record, I love my Pursuit. One of the best mid-size offshore platforms. Heartbroken that she is so badly damaged.
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Are you selling now, or have you recently made an attempt to sell your boat?

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Was for sale last Fall before I even knew there was a problem. Became evident this winter when the core froze. Had her surveyed on Sunday. Not likely to be selling her in near future. You should have your checked as well. I believe the 30 had issues with water penetration around the vents. Maybe you can catch it earlier.
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Isn't 'Class Action Suit' a French term for, 'only the lawyers make money'?
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Originally Posted by MatthewK View Post
Isn't 'Class Action Suit' a French term for, 'only the lawyers make money'?
What he said. You are better of trying your luck in small claims court or whatever. I have "won" many class action suits by being a customer of Apple, AT&T, you name it...the payouts were not worth the postage to proceed with the claims lol
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Class action suit on a 15 year old boat that used industry construction techniques when it was built, and you're pissed because your boat has a problem? I hope you have deep pockets, because as Mathew said above . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Hide your ego, take your lumps, and move on - it'll save you and anyone who is foolish enough to join you, thousands of dollars in the long run.
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Originally Posted by ifish42na View Post
I appreciate all the comments, cynical or not, but really all I'm interested in finding a few other Pursuit or Tiara owners with the same problem who want to pursue it further. Nothing more. I don't really want to argue the merits of the case Everyone has an opinion. The fact that every thru hull leaks speaks for itself.
Sorry this is THT, no way to avoid the above.
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I extend Pascoe's motto of never coring below the water line to include never purchasing a boat cored below the waterline.
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I find it really hard to believe they did not seal thru-hull fittings in open core because if they did that stuff would have soaked up the ocean in much less time than 15 years. But what do I know, just a regular guy.

We as boat owners have to occasionally re-bed our thru-hulls, core or not. It is an often overlooked task.
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Don't holes have to be resealed? I mean, caulking and gaskets would wear out.
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Pifitian your boat is cored below the water line.
Quick question. Have any of the newer Vikings with cored bottoms developed problems?
What about the bigger searays?
Good luck with your class action.
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First Light - Did you build my boat? No need to get so defensive. I know you did your best. I don't blame you because you used state of art industry standard techniques. I am so fortunate it lasted 15 years. Thank you for gracing my post along with your wisdom. I look forward to 12,405.
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A friend told me that the larger Sea Rays had problems where the deck and hull were joined. Problems with the screws penetrating the core from the sides as well as from the rails. He said Sea Ray eventually made good on these boats but I only heard that second hand. I don't know anyone that that routinely pulls their thru-hulls. On my boat they are not really all the accessible. I would have sooner if I had known better,
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Welcome to the world of balsa cored boats. All balsa boats are prone to moisture intrusion, some the fault of the manufacture and some the fault of the owner. Anyone with a wood cored boat should do they homework and monitor the areas where water intrusion could take place. Pay a surveyor every few years to test for elevated moisture and fix the problem before it gets too serious. Don't single out Pursuit, can happen to any brand with balsa coring, hull, deck, hatches, topsides.

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