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Old 08-02-2005, 01:18 PM
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I need some help from the Charleston SC area. I am inquiring about a boat at Johnnys Marine and I am looking for someone to go by and take some pictures for me of this boat. The boat is a 1984 Boston Whaler Cuddy, 22ft. I am not getting a lot of info from the owner of the place.
Can anyone help me out before i make the trip?

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Old 08-02-2005, 01:30 PM
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This may sound like a smart A** answer, but it is not meant to be. If you are not getting any help from the owner of dealership, try someone else there. Like a salesperson, secretary or service advisor. If you still cannot get anywhere, I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of having my business.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:52 PM
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Well, I thought about doing just that, but I would really like to have someone that is not related to the dealership in any way take a look at it.
The owner said he would try to get some pictures "sometime". SOMETIME! I thought, I need to now in this life time. Anyway, He did tell me that the compression on all cylenders was between 80 and 90 psi. That there was some pin holes in the gelcoat, just above the waterline. But that is all he knew.

I need to know is there water in the hull? Is this boat worth restoring? What kind of shap is the wood in?
Does the engin run?

I may need to get a survey done on the boat.

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Old 08-02-2005, 01:57 PM
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I don't have a camera with me; i might be able to get by there this week and get some pics though.
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It certainly sounds to me like you need to have a survey done.

Another alternative would be to make any sale contingent on a satisfactory survey report. Bear in mind, you'll have to pay for the survey, just like having a piece of real estate appraised.
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Old 08-02-2005, 02:15 PM
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BoatP2Lee - 8/2/2005 2:57 PM

It certainly sounds to me like you need to have a survey done.

Another alternative would be to make any sale contingent on a satisfactory survey report. Bear in mind, you'll have to pay for the survey, just like having a piece of real estate appraised.

You definately need to have a marine surveyor inspect the rig before you go any farther. He'll be able to tell you far more than even the best pictures will show. While I'm sure there are guys on this forum who would help, unless they're qualified to give a professional opinion, all you are getting is an opinion from someone who won't be affected by a good or bad purchase.

If the owner of the business isn't willing to go out of his way to get you the information you want, there is probably something he doesn't want you to know. And I wouldn't trust anyone who works for him either. They are only going to tell you what he has told them to tell prospective buyers of the rig in question.

I'm no mechanic but 80 to 90 psi compression sounds low to me.?????

Get a survey done.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:04 PM
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Run Tim, run.......... see Tim run...................... If he is like that with the initial contact imagine how he will be when you show up to do the deal………..
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:50 AM
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i will be coming to Charleston next year and i think i can try and find that dealership - but i don't have a camera.

seriously, gimmee a break - you are thinking of a purchase like this and don't want to personally inquire? as others have said, why would you even fathom dealing with a business that doesn't seem to want to do anything for you?
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:31 AM
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When you mentioned Johnny's Marine I just laughed. Take your business elsewhere and save yourself the frustration. They are not a true boat dealership as many on this board would associate that term with. They sell used boats only. They do not sell new engines or boats. Their lot looks like a junk yard and most of the boats that they do have on their lot look like $hit.

I would recommend that you look else where for a whaler, but if you are insistent get a marine survey.

The compression you were quoted also seems too low for a good performing engine.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:34 AM
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If you still need someone to go by, I think I can go tomorrow and take some pictures. Let me know exactly which boat and dealer. I found a listing for Johnny's Marine on John's Island at 3881 Savannah Hwy. Looks like it is out past Red Top.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:47 AM
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Run away.....I wouldn't trust him.....sounds like he doesn't care anyway. IMO if he wanted to sell you the boat he would have already sent you the pics and told you everything you wanted to know. RUN......go to another dealer.....I'm sure some of these Charleston guys on here can hook you up with a good dealer in that area that sells Whalers....good luck
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:53 AM
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I think he is talking about the Johnny's marine that is located on Montague Av. in N. Charleston by the Coliseum and I-526. Same Johnny that owns the car dealership.
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:16 PM
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Its not the same Johnny that owns johnnys truck and auto in Moncks Corner and Summerville.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:00 PM
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Sounds like to me that this cat is no one that I need to be dealing with. Sometimes you see that add that seems to good to be true! Well, this is, I think, one of those adds. The boat is a 22ft Boston Whaler cuddy. 200hp on a dule axle trailer. He wants $8500.00 for all. The going price for a BW cuddy is normally quite abit more. I'm thinking about 10k more.

First I thought he would never answer the phone. Then he answered saing "What". I thought right then something wasn't right.

I beleive I am going to let him keep his boat. His fabulous dealership and all.

Guys,
Thanks for the imput. This is one reasson why I joined THT.

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Old 08-03-2005, 09:39 PM
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I go by the place all the time, and I always have to look.

it is definately not your typical dealership.

I believe everything they sell is warrantied









until you get off the lot.

if the boat were to check out allright, and the price is right, what difference would it make about the seller.

if you buy from a private seller, what kind of help would you get after the sale.
I have never met the guy myself, but if he had something I wanted, I would tolerate the personality deficiencies.
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