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Old 02-24-2014, 05:27 PM
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Does anyone have or know about the Robalo R222? It seems to be exactly what I am looking for. But this is my first boat so maybe I don't know exactly what I should be buying just yet ;?
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Originally Posted by PostHaste View Post
Does anyone have or know about the Robalo R222? It seems to be exactly what I am looking for. But this is my first boat so maybe I don't know exactly what I should be buying just yet ;?
This was previously the R220. Robalo updated it by changing the console and making the boat lighter somewhat which allows comparable performance with the new F200 that the R220 had with the F225 or F250. I just recently purchased an R220/F250.

The new console changed the wheel location, console layout and moved the head door to the front of the console.

Overall seems to be a well built boat with good utility and rigging.
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Originally Posted by GWcpa View Post
This was previously the R220. Robalo updated it by changing the console and making the boat lighter somewhat which allows comparable performance with the new F200 that the R220 had with the F225 or F250. I just recently purchased an R220/F250.

The new console changed the wheel location, console layout and moved the head door to the front of the console.

Overall seems to be a well built boat with good utility and rigging.
Thanks for the reply.

I was surprised to see a head compartment on a 21' center console, that made me happy.

I would probably get it with the 200HP engine and the T-top.

Is there a big difference in the Command Link Plus versus the mechanical linkage? It's $2,500 more so...
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Originally Posted by GWcpa View Post
This was previously the R220. Robalo updated it by changing the console and making the boat lighter somewhat which allows comparable performance with the new F200 that the R220 had with the F225 or F250. I just recently purchased an R220/F250.

The new console changed the wheel location, console layout and moved the head door to the front of the console.

Overall seems to be a well built boat with good utility and rigging.
Doesn't the new steering wheel placement bother you? Right in the middle of the console, you lose the seating utility of your helm seat- just seems stupid to me.
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Originally Posted by PostHaste View Post
I was surprised to see a head compartment on a 21' center console, that made me happy.
They have a head on the R180.
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Originally Posted by Wet Willie View Post
Doesn't the new steering wheel placement bother you? Right in the middle of the console, you lose the seating utility of your helm seat- just seems stupid to me.
Yes, I agree with you. The shifter location is also vertical and the console has less room for Electronics IMO. The previous design could have used some storage, but otherwise I like it better.

But I've only seen it in pictures.
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I'm a big guy so I want the helm seat all to myself, so I don't think I'll mind the wheel being in the center
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Center steering wheel is set to keep passengers from leaning into the throttles for safety. Most of the newer designs are going in this direction.
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What can I expect to pay for a boat from a dealer? Is it like with new cars where you always pay less than the sticker?

Let's say I built the R222 on the website to $48K What would I actually pay from a dealer? I know 7% sales tax in my state.
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The R222 is part of Robalos reel deal no haggle price program. You would pay 48K plus freight, which I think is 1,395. Also part of their fixed price program.
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$54k with trailer. Pretty sure without T top. Name:  image-416327463.jpg
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Edit : looking at the std features it lists "foldaway aft seating " but also shows it as an option. Not sure what this means.

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Originally Posted by joebalo View Post
Center steering wheel is set to keep passengers from leaning into the throttles for safety. Most of the newer designs are going in this direction.
If a passenger is sitting back in the seat, how do they lean into the throttle? No offense but this sounds like non-sense. And I've been looking at a lot of new boats lately and Robalo is one of the few to put the steering wheel in the middle of the console.
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Originally Posted by Harbor27 View Post
The R222 is part of Robalos reel deal no haggle price program. You would pay 48K plus freight, which I think is 1,395. Also part of their fixed price program.
Ok, so with Robalo you pay exactly what the sticker says. how about with other boats? Do they do like new car dealers do and always negotiate down quite a bit?

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Edit : looking at the std features it lists "foldaway aft seating " but also shows it as an option. Not sure what this means.
I'd like to know about this as well.
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Passengers typically stand up in rough seas in a center console, not sit down. Very easy to fall forward into the throttles when they're mounted in the center of the helm on a small boat especially with children. This is what the marine safety experts recommend. A center steering wheel also makes it easier to slide in and out of the helm. Lots of advantages.
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There is a standard flip down aft seat on the R222 where the aft bolster pad is the backrest. Great seat but a lower backrest then the upgrade. The upgraded aft seat is the folding aft seat we use on our 30 footers and has a higher more comfortable backrest.

If you're going to use the aft seat mainly to rig lines and rest while fishing I would recommend the standard aft seat but if you plan on doing more cruising and want added comfort then I would upgrade to the premium folding aft seat.

The pricing on the real deal boats is set at aggressive bottom line pricing. It's a no haggle price set bottom line to offer the best possible value without the hassle of haggling to the bottom line.. Robalo, it's dealers, and it's suppliers worked together to cut prices and offer its customers the best value possible.
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[QUOTE=PostHaste;6460271]Ok, so with Robalo you pay exactly what the sticker says. how about with other boats? Do they do like new car dealers do and always negotiate down quite a bit?

Many other mfgrs. will offer factory discounts to their dealers on boats that are not special-ordered. Dealers will also add their own discounts and will negotiate to an extent (depending on how large the discounts are). Expect an average of 10% or more on how much they discount). And I'll stick with my off-center helm. Handholds on the t-top & dash will do a better job of keeping passengers off the throttle.
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Here are some pics of both seats:

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I had a 2010 225. The fit and finish was 7/8 out of 10. Not bad for a boat. Had very few stress cracks and they stood upto thier warranty. If you get a colored hull, they will vary from mold to mold. I had black and it was flawless. I saw a blue and it was ripple heaven. I also had an issue with the aft rod holders. I was amazed they didnt have backer plates in them and were only screwed. For the price its not bad. But if you are willing to spend a few more bucks, there are better options.

A great site to see dealer cost is www.seedealercost.com

Keep in mind they will also get a bigger percentage off if its a volume dealer. Ie $150K 10% $300k 15% in orders etc. Thats just an example, percentages and kick backs change from program to program.

Your boat with "no haggle price" is coming just under 43K without trailer. If you plan on buying the trailer, financing, electronics, etc. There is alot more money on the table for them. I would shop them...

Nothing is set in stone and neither is a "no haggle" price. I'm sure Joe Robalo will tell you different but he has to support his dealers. If no dealer will haggle (which I doubt), get them to throw in service, electronics at cost, extended warranties, etc. They all will do something. They will not let a >$7000 deal walk out the door.

When I looked a little over a year ago, the 305 was spot on minus any volume dealer incentive.



Good Luck!

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Thanks everyone.


joebalo, I see the difference now, thanks. The optional seat is much, much nicer. The standard seat looks like it would get in the way even when folded up.

If anyone is interested, at 1:22 you can see the optional seat:
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Originally Posted by joebalo View Post
Passengers typically stand up in rough seas in a center console, not sit down. Very easy to fall forward into the throttles when they're mounted in the center of the helm on a small boat especially with children. This is what the marine safety experts recommend. A center steering wheel also makes it easier to slide in and out of the helm. Lots of advantages.
Keeping the steering to the right solves the problem and provides plenty of seating on the left....

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