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Old 12-13-2013, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tomfl;6241350[COLOR="Red"
]Like Bly[/COLOR] I hate to be one who questions the process,
Whatca talkin bout Lewis
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Great project. The layout is going to be sick. Are you adding a live well somewhere in the back?

Thanks for sharing!
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Swimming Mullet,

Yes We are adding a live well in the transom. This is one of the reasons I wanted to close it it. In addition I never really liked the open transom look and the way the rigging looks.

Guys, I appreciate everyones comments. This is what makes the Hull Truth so much fun to read for all of us. Please keep in mind if you did not think for a second I did not consult with some very prominent industry professionals before doing this you are very wrong. One of which is is the lead designer for one of the best high center consoles in the world and yes he has a degree in this stuff. I really respect his opinion.

Lastly, if we are afraid to step out of the box the marine industry would not be where it is today. I have the resources to do whatever I want and elected to take this on as a project. If it works out in the end that is great and we all can learn from it, if it doesn't, I will re rig to a different hull. All I ask is for everyone to keep an open mind and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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Really cool, can't wait to see you splash it!!
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Originally Posted by PlanBFishing View Post
Swimming Mullet,

Yes We are adding a live well in the transom. This is one of the reasons I wanted to close it it. In addition I never really liked the open transom look and the way the rigging looks.

Guys, I appreciate everyones comments. This is what makes the Hull Truth so much fun to read for all of us. Please keep in mind if you did not think for a second I did not consult with some very prominent industry professionals before doing this you are very wrong. One of which is is the lead designer for one of the best high center consoles in the world and yes he has a degree in this stuff. I really respect his opinion.

Lastly, if we are afraid to step out of the box the marine industry would not be where it is today. I have the resources to do whatever I want and elected to take this on as a project. If it works out in the end that is great and we all can learn from it, if it doesn't, I will re rig to a different hull. All I ask is for everyone to keep an open mind and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
There ya go, kudos to you for the research; as mentioned I am not a naval architect. Heck I'm still trying to figure out how a battleship floats.

I'm gonna sit back, enjoy the build and learn something along the way.
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Tom,

Well thank you for your comments and being very professional. Says allot about you. I know you have knowledge about boats and respect your opinion. I will keep you posted.
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Originally Posted by PlanBFishing View Post
The boat needed to be under 26 feet including the motor. If I hung a motor on the hull without modification it would have been 26.5 inches. I also wanted to close in the transom. I am not a fan of open transom boats. Now wight he bracket and the motor the boat is about 8 inches shorter. I could have taken a 20 Sea Craft and just closed the transom in and not cut it down but that would have left me with a cockpit that would not suit my needs.

Now back on track and answer some questions:

1. From the bow back the first are in between the stringers is a large insulated fish box, from there is a 40 gallon in floor live well, next is the under console storage. As you move towards the stern you will see the bilge, and then port and starboard insulated fish boxes / coolers.

2. One each side of the boat I elected to use duel fuel tanks for a total of 110 gallons of usable fuel. It does cost a little more to have two fuel tanks custom made but in the end you benefit from a more spacious console. This allowed me to have live well space, fish box space, and storage because the fuel tanks are basically in a dead area.
B, did you discuss the pros and cons of possibly making it a euro transom? Also, is the bracket a straight floatation bracket that is tapered above the hull bottom, or a "hull extending" bracket that will be flush or close to flush on the bottom, lengthening the wetted surface?
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Maxie,

Yes we did go over the euro transom. The issue was space. In my opinion you lose a significant amount of space with a euro. I have a 35 contender now so we are used to the space. When I got on a 20 foot or even a 23 I was in shock.....LOL I just wanted to have as much area as possible.

As far as the bracket test it lengthens the wetted surface.

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Carl Moesly, like most boat builders who started out in aviation before building boats, was incredibly adept at thinking outside of the box. When he came up with a new way of doing things he tested extensively before going into production. He tweaked, and then tweaked some more. That's why SeaCrafts are among the best running hulls for their size.
You're making some pretty severe changes here. Carl is currently working with F&S who makes one of the best running large sportfishers on the planet. And he'll tell you it aint easy.
So I hope you had some input from a competent NA.
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It may end up OK with a bracket that matches the hull bottom...he is shortening the current conguration by 20 or so, but then adding 24-36 with a bottom running bracket, so the net length and shape will be a + to the wetted bottom......should be interesting to see how it performs.......he is doing some of his own experimentation...maybe it will come up 7's not snake eyes??
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How much is that stringer grid raising the floor from factory level? Beefy stringers indeed...
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Lets all learn together. More pictures coming tomorrow.......

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Parrott,

I also did not want a step in the deck. That was removed. I will post pictures tomorrow.

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With ya on the front box. We have a 84' 23ft that we are gonna do the flush floor then coffin box attach to console deal. Doing a 67' 19ft Bowrider right now. Did my 77' 20ft MA, recently sold, with a flush deck. Then about 7yr ago redid my first Seacraft, a 84' 23ft, but keep front box in but just didnt like it.
Had a Seacraft addiction for awhile now. To me they are the best and purdiest ol skol hull out there, with plenty of glass, and worth restoring!!
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The trailer I bought with the hull was in very very very poor shape. Keep in mind I paid $1500 for the hull and the trailer together. I took the old trailer to Float On service department in Vero Beach Florida and for $2200 they did a total front to back refirb. Looks like a brand new trailer in perfect condition. New axles, new tires, new wiring, new bunks, jack, winch, etc.

When I picked it up the frame was still nasty. I asked them how to get it looking better and they suggested I run in by the Commercial Truck wash and have it mildly acid wash. They do it all the time and it does not hurt your trailer. I picked it up and stopped by to have it weighed and washed in Fort Pierce at the Truck Wash. The cost for the acid wash was $12.00. Looks brand new, see pictures.

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Nice acid trick. I will have to remember that
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Originally Posted by PlanBFishing View Post
Swimming Mullet,

Yes We are adding a live well in the transom. This is one of the reasons I wanted to close it it. In addition I never really liked the open transom look and the way the rigging looks.

Guys, I appreciate everyones comments. This is what makes the Hull Truth so much fun to read for all of us. Please keep in mind if you did not think for a second I did not consult with some very prominent industry professionals before doing this you are very wrong. One of which is is the lead designer for one of the best high center consoles in the world and yes he has a degree in this stuff. I really respect his opinion.

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probably the best answer I've seen to some well-phrased, well-intentioned questions. Kudos all around.

Sweet project, love the rebuilds
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Cool project, Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see more pics. Remember we LOVE pics here haha.
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Originally Posted by PlanBFishing View Post
Swimming Mullet,

Yes We are adding a live well in the transom. This is one of the reasons I wanted to close it it. In addition I never really liked the open transom look and the way the rigging looks.
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So you intend to glass a pre made or build your own livewell. I want to add one to my formula restoration but don't really feel like building one from scratch.
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How much fuel? Great project. Build what you want...after all it is your boat capt. Leon
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