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Old 11-21-2013, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NutsForBoats View Post
Its very simple as to why the boat sank. These guys usually tied up for the night empty on gas so the stern will sit higher. What they did this time was fill up at night because they wanted to get an early start in the morning. Well, when they did that they added quite a bit of weight. That caused the boat to sit lower in the water and the exhaust holes filled up with water and she went down right away.

Think about it, when the boat is running in fwd with full tanks, there would be no water coming into the exhaust because of the fwd movement. Just like a self bailing hull....

Thats what I heard from crew members the morning she sank. Its not dock talk, its straight from the crews mouth.

Lets get this straight too. When she sank, a representative of the owner hired a recovery team that was not qualified for this job. He was quite cheap compared to others on the bids. The Coast Guard DID in fact take over the salvage of the vessel. I am not bad mouthing NEMS at all, but I cant sit here any longer and listen to speculation and him tap dance around what happened because of legal issues.
I know of similar sportfishers that carry extra fuel in their cockpits for long, non-stop voyages. Why do they not have a problem?
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:35 AM
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My guess is we are dead in the water for this thread. The owner and NEMS have a mess on their hands and on the advice of their attorney's, cannot comment.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tunamike View Post
I know of similar sportfishers that carry extra fuel in their cockpits for long, non-stop voyages. Why do they not have a problem?

Did they have twin outboards sitting on the transom?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tunamike View Post
I know of similar sportfishers that carry extra fuel in their cockpits for long, non-stop voyages. Why do they not have a problem?
Because the exhausts were hooked up to engines with in-line check valves or mufflers-a closed system with no way for water to enter the bilge. Unless I'm mistaken, the engines were removed from this boat and the owner did not cap the exhaust risers as he felt they were high enough to not ship water. Oops...

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Old 11-21-2013, 07:40 AM
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Because the exhausts were hooked up to engines with in-line check valves or mufflers-a closed system with no way for water to enter the bilge. Unless I'm mistaken, the engines were removed from this boat and the owner did not cap the exhaust risers as he felt they were high enough to not ship water. Oops...

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Ding!

So most people would plug the exhaust at some point in the line to prevent this. Also pumps and hi water alarms in case.

These are clues to me as to why the owner and repairer are now in dispute.

Any one see the clean up bill?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:57 AM
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I know the first guy who got the job to salvage the yacht quoted 12,500. That was to just lift her. Others were in the ball park of 25K plus. Again, just to lift here. Clean up fee I can try and find out the total.

BINGO. The exhaust risers were not on the engines, the engines were still in the boat. No bilge pump and no high water alarm = recipe for disaster....
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CMP View Post
Because the exhausts were hooked up to engines with in-line check valves or mufflers-a closed system with no way for water to enter the bilge. Unless I'm mistaken, the engines were removed from this boat and the owner did not cap the exhaust risers as he felt they were high enough to not ship water. Oops...

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We put an extra 300gals of diesel in bladders on the deck of my boat for the trip between Key West and Isla Mujeres. We fill up and leave immediately and run off the extra weight as quickly as possible under the circumstances (we also have a full dock box and a chest freezer full of bait on deck, along with a bicycle, dingy engine and other stuff needed for a long stay.) I don't like the fact that the exhausts ports are under water even with surge cans, risers and the full exhaust system intact. In fact, I prefer to fill the bladders with the engines running so the exhaust gases keep the surge cans full of exhaust and not water.

We will carry an extra 150gals on deck for long overnighters up here in the Mid-Atlantic, and we fill the one bladder the night before, but the bladder is situated centered more forward when used alone, and we don't have the weight of the chest freezer and bait or dock box, dingy or engine on board. Even then I worry through the night.

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i thought we were talking about a boat build here, what are you talkin bout?
lol...
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:35 PM
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JPK, what kind of boat are you running to Isla?
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JPK, what kind of boat are you running to Isla?
Sleepy Creek Boat Works 54, built by Gary Davis. 56' long, Cat C-18's with ~2800 hours of warranty left, which runs until April 15, 2015 - a big factor in my selection. 27.5kts at 1750rpm at 54gals/hour, 29-30kts at 1850 at 60gals/hr. But she will run 23kts at 1550 at 40gals/hr and 26kts at 1650 at about 47gals/hr if the current turd in the Whitehouse wins.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:43 AM
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Any updates?

went back through the whole thing last night....missed a lot the first time....

someone should know or have heard something from a buddies brothers cousins sisters girlfriend at least
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:48 PM
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such a sad turn of events for this thread, things were going historically well...........i mean sad for the boat.

hope NEMS and the owner the best of luck since i dont know crap about either of them, looks like a nightmare for all parties involved at this point
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Lol passed this boat Tuesday, almost everything that is screwed up has a FL link
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:26 AM
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guess this thread is dead we need updates
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Lol passed this boat Tuesday, almost everything that is screwed up has a FL link

South FL link.
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South FL link.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:40 PM
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It must of been a great trip. Wish the owner and Nems would make-up. My guess is that they should share the costs of the second sinking. Nems could give him a credit his share and apply it to the cost of transportation and work that need to be done.
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Damn every time I get an alert about this thread I hope it's coming back from the dead. Sadly this is not the case.
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:48 PM
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Damn every time I get an alert about this thread I hope it's coming back from the dead. Sadly this is not the case.
It is going to take many or much down with it. That second sinking in SC is to high a profile to go away cheap. Then all the online back and forth. Lawyer heaven and many billable hours already and building more every day. Its a slow killing zombie that can't be killed because its already been down and dead twice.
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Originally Posted by Bly View Post
It is going to take many or much down with it. That second sinking in SC is to high a profile to go away cheap. Then all the online back and forth. Lawyer heaven and many billable hours already and building more every day. Its a slow killing zombie that can't be killed because its already been down and dead twice.
Another good name for the boat.
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