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Old 10-17-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nb123 View Post
What are the possible routes of water intrusion? If the hull is intact and the repairs held, there are a very limited number of hull breaches which could allow that much water to come in that quickly- right?

1) Exaust ports
2) Shafts/stuffing boxes
3) Rudder shaft
4) Thru-hull pick ups?

2 and 3 seem way too small to leak that much water that quickly, number 4 sounds way too obvious... but if it is exhaust ports, what would suddenly fail that wasn't already letting water in?
I don't think it did suddenly fail. I think that it was letting water in every time they fueled the thing, but they usually fueled in the morning and rolled out early. This time, it sat there with the ports underwater instead of steaming along at 8 knots. Just speculation.
Are the original diesels still in the boat?
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kack View Post
I don't think it did suddenly fail. I think that it was letting water in every time they fueled the thing, but they usually fueled in the morning and rolled out early. This time, it sat there with the ports underwater instead of steaming along at 8 knots. Just speculation.
Are the original diesels still in the boat?
Yes, I believe NEMS said they are going to be rebuilt.

Hard to go back and re-read or search with all the crap

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Originally Posted by NEMS Boatworks View Post
2000 65' Viking
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Purchased may of this year
Started fiberglass repairs June 2 and finished with up all major damage repair August 6.
Complete hull bottom and hull exterior/interior were checked for density with proper metering equipment. Once we determined areas of removal we realized it was way worse than it looked. Just as an average any holes with a diameter of around 12" had about 2' of damaged, soaked, muddy core in all directions of it. We were able to demo and remove all of the existing core that was bad until we reached solid dry core. Once rotten core was removed we had to grind two rings on every hole on the exterior and lay a mold on the outside for laying up interior plugs. Once plugs were completed we pull all molds off grind the wax back off for bonding the plug to the hull under the core. Once that has started b stage we start to apply a putty and rake for bonding the core to the hull. After that has cured we start prep for laying up final rings/caps on the exterior hull. once we finish caps it on to the inside in there on every hole we ground 1-18", 1-24", 1-30" and prepped 40" of surface we'll post pics of a ring so you can understand to those that are unfamiliar. Once all repairs were completed we went back to Fl for about a month to catch up on things at home and figure out what the owner wanted to do about completing the rebuild of main engines.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:48 AM
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Let's hope NEMS comes on soon to fill us in so we can stop making uneducated guesses.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:23 AM
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Let's hope NEMS comes on soon to fill us in so we can stop making uneducated guesses.
Why would he or should he come back? The NEMS team obviously worked their butts off to get the boat to the point where it could even think about making the journey (there is even a reference to their spending an entire month away from their families in Florida to work on the boat in NJ); started the journey; and then were met with a catastrophic event. As I said a few pages back, the guy was nice enough to post updates/pictures, etc. At some point, he must have read the crap with the boat names and said screw these idiots. I admit, some of the names are funny, but they are off topic here. The scope of this thread should have been the journey and the end results. A separate thread about the names should have been started.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by halkman26 View Post
Why would he or should he come back? The NEMS team obviously worked their butts off to get the boat to the point where it could even think about making the journey (there is even a reference to their spending an entire month away from their families in Florida to work on the boat in NJ); started the journey; and then were met with a catastrophic event. As I said a few pages back, the guy was nice enough to post updates/pictures, etc. At some point, he must have read the crap with the boat names and said screw these idiots. I admit, some of the names are funny, but they are off topic here. The scope of this thread should have been the journey and the end results. A separate thread about the names should have been started.
This is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, is it not? At this point there are easily as many posts complaining about off-topic posters, as there are off-topic posts!! Just post on the Viking and let's everyone drop the side chatter then?! Problem solved!

Does anyone know for sure if the slip where she went down the 2nd time was salt or fresh or brackish?
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nb123 View Post
This is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, is it not? At this point there are easily as many posts complaining about off-topic posters, as there are off-topic posts!! Just post on the Viking and let's everyone drop the side chatter then?! Problem solved!

Does anyone know for sure if the slip where she went down the 2nd time was salt or fresh or brackish?
I'll give you that - I'll drop it and look forward to an update from NEMS or someone affiliated with them or the owner.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:52 AM
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Any word on what caused it to go down a second time?
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:16 AM
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I Think once the silly poll was added NEMS realized that posting here was not a worthwhile endeavor, Its sad because it was interesting to follow this project
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:18 AM
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Does anyone know for sure if the slip where she went down the 2nd time was salt or fresh or brackish?[/QUOTE]

My boat is near where it went down the second time. Mine I'm told is freshwater.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kack View Post
I don't think it did suddenly fail. I think that it was letting water in every time they fueled the thing, but they usually fueled in the morning and rolled out early. This time, it sat there with the ports underwater instead of steaming along at 8 knots. Just speculation.
Also wondering if the heavy stern was exposed to enough chop to fill the cockpit.
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freshwater
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by freedbaby View Post
I wish the mods would delete all the garbage posts...I would actually like to see this thread continue on with updates of whats really going on with the boat and its refit.

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I deleted 23 posts from this thread before your comment. They were the posts fighting and bickering with each other.
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Originally Posted by jeffro22 View Post
freshwater
Then you'd figure (or hope) that the OX66's will be just fine... that's a positive at least...
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:10 PM
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Then you'd figure (or hope) that the OX66's will be just fine... that's a positive at least...
You think? After sitting under for that long? I just imagine the computer, 02 sensors etc. being fried or waterlogged.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
this is three threads in one, 1 a thread about a salvage 2 a naming contest and 3 pansy bickering.

please dont derail this to the point that you scare away the only guy that knows what is going on. This thread is and will be epic if we can follow this all the way through. I am checking back routinely to keep up with the progress and cant wait to see the rest of the journey.

x 2 Can we keep this on track please. I don't care about a stupid name or the bickering. I do however want to see how this ends up!


Good luck and please update.
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I have been following this post since day one...Its a hell of a trip for those guys (owners, helpers, etc) Lets hope that there dreams come true and a completed repairs be done and a other trip on the sea possible...

I think the main worries that could happen...his the decision about ICE Environmental and USCG...those guys could put a end to this projet fast enough...

NEMS, dont quit now...and keep us in the news...

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NEMS may not want to post if he is exposed to liability from a lawsuit. He may have had to lawyer up and shut up. This is just speculation of course. I am not a lawyer, but I did sleep at....
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If I had to guess, NEMS is probably way too busy trying to get the situation squared away, and do it a long way from home, to worry too much about a thread on THT.
I would also venture a guess that he will return, because this thread (with a positive outcome) will be great for business. Plus some of his early posts, something about great minds, and knowing what they're doing due to 40 years in the business, challenges that some say can't be done, etc, lead me to believe his personality is strong enough to take little things like a bit of bickering on this thread, or a naming poll.
If anything, that stuff keeps this thread on the first page, or perhaps more accurately NEMS, on the first page.
My thoughts are that he probably doesn't mind the naming poll, nor does the owner.
Someone that undertakes a project like this, has to have a good sense of humor.

Best of luck to him, his whole crew, the owner and the boat!
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Originally Posted by buckshotgumbo View Post
If I had to guess, NEMS is probably way too busy trying to get the situation squared away, and do it a long way from home, to worry too much about a thread on THT.
I would also venture a guess that he will return, because this thread (with a positive outcome) will be great for business. Plus some of his early posts, something about great minds, and knowing what they're doing due to 40 years in the business, challenges that some say can't be done, etc, lead me to believe his personality is strong enough to take little things like a bit of bickering on this thread, or a naming poll.
If anything, that stuff keeps this thread on the first page, or perhaps more accurately NEMS, on the first page.
My thoughts are that he probably doesn't mind the naming poll, nor does the owner.
Someone that undertakes a project like this, has to have a good sense of humor.

Best of luck to him, his whole crew, the owner and the boat!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!
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