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Old 09-11-2013, 05:00 PM
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Default Racor Filter Problem- Do you have one?

Three or four months back I replaced the filter cartridge on my Racor fuel filter/water separator reusing the amber plastic bowl attached to the bottom. At the time of installation all seemed well and the filter functioned as expected until this past Labor Day.
While fishing around Pacific Reef we smelled gas fumes very strongly. Stopped the boat to investigate and found gas leaking down the side of plastic bowl on the filter. Thinking the bowl had come loose, I reached in to tighten it and the thing fell off into the bilge dumping all the gas from the filter with it. Thank God for Tow Boat US!
Now that I have the thing off the boat (no more Racor filters for me) I can see the treads on both parts are fine and find no damage but the bowl no longer screws securely onto the filter.
I am the second person here in Miami that I know of to have this problem with a Racor filter in the past two months.
Bottom line- if you are using this type of Racor filter with an amber plastic bowl at the bottom, check it out.
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Originally Posted by rm151 View Post
Three or four months back I replaced the filter cartridge on my Racor fuel filter/water separator reusing the amber plastic bowl attached to the bottom. At the time of installation all seemed well and the filter functioned as expected until this past Labor Day.
While fishing around Pacific Reef we smelled gas fumes very strongly. Stopped the boat to investigate and found gas leaking down the side of plastic bowl on the filter. Thinking the bowl had come loose, I reached in to tighten it and the thing fell off into the bilge dumping all the gas from the filter with it. Thank God for Tow Boat US!
Now that I have the thing off the boat (no more Racor filters for me) I can see the treads on both parts are fine and find no damage but the bowl no longer screws securely onto the filter.
I am the second person here in Miami that I know of to have this problem with a Racor filter in the past two months.
Bottom line- if you are using this type of Racor filter with an amber plastic bowl at the bottom, check it out.
Had the same problem back in May. Fortunately the bowl fell off in my hand when the boat was on the trailer. The bowl was four or five years old and had been on several other filter elements. This last time it felt snug and didn't leak for a few days until I bumped into it with my hand and it just popped off the filter element. Thankfully I wasn't on the water. I replaced the bowl and the new one fits fine. I'm thinking about going with a bowl-free Racor at my next filter change. One less failure point seems like a good idea when you're dealing with fuel.
Old 09-11-2013, 05:52 PM
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Same thing happened to one of mine. I was out in the bay and smelled fuel and the clear bowl was lying in the bilge.
Tried to screw it back on but when I started the engine it blew the bowl right off.
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They make a metal bowl for most filters. Replace o ring with filter changes. You might want to replace the plastic bowls on a schedule, if you like them clear. If they are amber, you might have pretty old bowl.
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Good and timely post. I have heard of the plastic bowl failure before and recently noticed that mine has turned amber. I'm putting bowl replacement on the to-do list @ fall layup. My guess is that prolonged ethanol exposure and/or fuel additives may be breaking the plastic down.
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Same thing happened to me. Next time I'll just put in the metal filter
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This old thread came up when I web searched racor filter leaking. Might as well add to it with a question.

While running the boat today I noticed the strong smell etc, looked in the bilge and found the leaking racor bowl. The clear plastic one. The bowl was still attached so I placed an oil diaper beneath it and came back to my slip. I can't find a fuel shutoff valve so let's presume I don't have one yet need to replace the unit. I've forgotten since last year what steps I take. I guess my concern is how much fuel comes out. Is it just the amount in the filter itself? I'll have a container ready but as with many other boats there's very little room beneath.

So really that's my concern, how much fuel comes out. The rest I remember. And like some others I'll probably go with the single piece metal filter.

Thanks for your help.
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Racor bowls have been improved in the past few years to make them more tolerant to ethanol fuels.

There was a bulletin about the new bowls put out by Racor.
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Originally Posted by Pro251wa View Post
This old thread came up when I web searched racor filter leaking. Might as well add to it with a question.

While running the boat today I noticed the strong smell etc, looked in the bilge and found the leaking racor bowl. The clear plastic one. The bowl was still attached so I placed an oil diaper beneath it and came back to my slip. I can't find a fuel shutoff valve so let's presume I don't have one yet need to replace the unit. I've forgotten since last year what steps I take. I guess my concern is how much fuel comes out. Is it just the amount in the filter itself? I'll have a container ready but as with many other boats there's very little room beneath.

So really that's my concern, how much fuel comes out. The rest I remember. And like some others I'll probably go with the single piece metal filter.

Thanks for your help.
If the filter is higher than the fuel tank it should only be the fuel in the filter and housing.

IIRC Racor has addressed the issue with the old plastic bowls failing from newer gas formulas. Check with them about getting a new plastic bowl.
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I think the newer supposedly improved "clear" bowls are now tinted blue. You could check with Racor :

Product Information Center
U.S., Canada, Mexico call: 1-800-C-Parker (1-800-272-7537)

Apparently a lot of plastic bowls have fallen off or had other problems . Here's a related older thread:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...lter-bowl.html
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Just use a regular spin on = no more unecessary problems.
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My understanding is that the clear bowls are only approverd for above deck install and the metal ones are required below deck per CG regs. Can any Coastie verify?
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Originally Posted by Botumfedr View Post
My understanding is that the clear bowls are only approverd for above deck install and the metal ones are required below deck per CG regs. Can any Coastie verify?
Your understanding is not correct.

It is not CG regulations that control the use of boating stuff. It is US law. The CG enforces the law however.

A filter (fuel system actually) when used on an inboard powered boat has to withstand a five minute fire test. Apparently, none of the plastic bowls in use today with filter elements cannot pass the five minute fire test. So, they are not approved for use below deck in an inboard powered boat.

The same law that specifies the five minute fire test exempts outboard powered boats.

So, outboards can have filters with plastic bowls above or below deck. Inboards can have filters with plastic bowls above or below deck, as long as they can meet the five minute fire test.

Without knowing how the boat is powered (inboard or outboard) or what plastic the bowl is made from, it is impossible to definitively answer the question about the use of filters with plastic bowls.

Would be nice if Racor would come up with a glass (or plastic) filter bowl that would pass a five minute fire test.
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Originally Posted by jethro1 View Post
A filter (fuel system actually) when used on an inboard powered boat has to withstand a five minute fire test.

Would be nice if Racor would come up with a glass (or plastic) filter bowl that would pass a five minute fire test.


Actually it is a 2-1/2 minute direct flame test for fuel system components - just keeping things accurate, my friend !



FEDERAL LAW

183.590 - Fire test

(a) A piece of equipment is tested under the following conditions and procedures:


(1) Fuel stop valves, "USCG Type A1" or "USCG Type A2" hoses and hose clamps are tested in a fire chamber.

(2) Fuel filters, strainers, and pumps are tested in a fire chamber or as installed on the engine in a boat.

(3) Fuel tanks must be tested filled with fuel to one-fourth the capacity marked on the tank in a fire chamber or in an actual or simulated hull section.
(b) Each fire test is conducted with free burning heptane and the component must be subjected to a flame for 2-1/2 minutes.
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Originally Posted by seahorse View Post
Actually it is a 2-1/2 minute direct flame test for fuel system components - just keeping things accurate, my friend !



FEDERAL LAW

183.590 - Fire test

(a) A piece of equipment is tested under the following conditions and procedures:


(1) Fuel stop valves, "USCG Type A1" or "USCG Type A2" hoses and hose clamps are tested in a fire chamber.

(2) Fuel filters, strainers, and pumps are tested in a fire chamber or as installed on the engine in a boat.

(3) Fuel tanks must be tested filled with fuel to one-fourth the capacity marked on the tank in a fire chamber or in an actual or simulated hull section.
(b) Each fire test is conducted with free burning heptane and the component must be subjected to a flame for 2-1/2 minutes.
I stand corrected. For some reason I thought it was five minutes. Not sure where I got that from. Thanks for the edumacation!
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I had the same problem with the plastic bowl. Engine quit and I couldn't get the ball hard. Bowl came off in my hand. Couldn't see any damage to the threads but they wouldn't catch more than about a half of a turn. Replaced both parts and it is fine. Also had a bad bulb but that's a separate issue. I keep a spare on in the boat now.

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