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Old 01-04-2013, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kln View Post
There will be a master stateroom in the bow with a queen bed, with some of the extra room saved with the outboards we are doing a full beam stateroom aft with two twin bunks and enough headroom to stand. Behind the aft stateroom will be a tackle storage room and rigging station under the mezzanine with access from the cockpit like you would a traditional engine room. we are finishing up the weight and balance now. with the outboards we have more horsepower per pound of weight than diesels but the weight is a lot further back. The positive flotation of the Armstrong bracket will displace some of the weight of the engines, and the extra space on the interior gives us the flexibility in locating a/c units, generators, water tanks, pumps, appliances, etc. to balance the boat correctly.

How much fuel? Location of tanks? Under cockpit?
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:30 PM
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by williscustoms View Post
How much fuel? Location of tanks? Under cockpit?
Minimum 600 gallons, the tanks will be forward of the cockpit.


Sorry guys, the owner wants some privacy at this time.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:11 AM
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Despite to what purists and traditionalists may say about what they like or dislike, IMO, you have a great chance to prove what phisics already point out: the same power to weight advantages that had promoted the outboard powered CC concept making it the most popular concept ,should be awaiting you at the end of the road, I would dare to advise to keep it light and with a low CG, during design and construction to compensate for the fact of not having massive iron engines down below, I would also humbly suggest to keep it aerodynamic something not so important in a low speed boat but important in a relatively fast one like yours will undoubtly be.

In regards to backing into a large fish, you really do not have to, if the captain is used to outboard power there is really no need to chase a fish aiming with the worst part of the boat to do so, cleverly outboard owners have realized there is a better way, and yes this is with the bow first, not as easy to do properly but IMHO equally good if not better, you justs have to adapt the "pilot" to bring the fish to the side instead of to the transom, I have done so for many years and never had trouble that large diesels could have avoided, in fact have lost some large tuna to the propellers of diesel convertibles ( and their lack of agility when compared to a lighter ouboard powered vessel)

You can even try to partially hide under some well designed covers the engines for a cleaner at the transom look.

This project of yours, if properly executed could very well embarrass a couple of well stablished vessels anchored in the past in regards to power plant choices.


For sure, many years ago when all boats where inboard diesels when someone came with gasoline powered "kitchen hand mixers" bolted to the transom, for sure traditionalists doubted any chance of success for the new concept and look where the CC boats are today ........ you will be doing the same but at a different scale I can see no reason for it not being an excellent idea ............ ( regardless of torque and other subjects that some will try to introduce as potential issues )

Diesel power is mega heavy, mega expensive, slow, big and smelly and IMO is only justifiable in some professional uses so your project seems to be a very reasonable one to me
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by miamizx View Post
. Don't see the tourney guys cry about 4 props...
These tourney guys fish for marlin? Nah i dint think so. The idea of going backwards in a boat and flooding the cockpit of a big boat is shocking i i know. Imagine the deck might get wet.

The idea that a 48 express has 4 350 yamis on the back makes me shudder. Sorry xcelerator. You guys seem to be on the up and you build what you got to build but outboards. For me its the equivalent of taking a shit on the statue of liberty and wiping my crack with old glory. Sorry , but that how i see it.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:44 AM
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Equating an enthusiastic post from a young entreprenuer with the set to go out on a limb and buck trends to defaming some national treasures? Are you kidding me, thats just plain silly. Im sure someone told Billy Freeman he was insane for starting a custom catamaran business in 2007 too. Good Luck Xcelerator!
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There was a video on here a few months back of some guys sailfishing in a trip verado boat. I don't remember the boat brand but they were backing down on the fish in some serious rough water. That boat was hauling ass backwards and taking water over the top of the motors!

kln, I'm looking forward to this build!
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:26 AM
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Congrats guys, that CC y'all built was awesome. There was a nice write up in Sport Fishing Magazine about it.

Sounds like a cool boat, and it seems like you are taking full advantage of the saved space of no inboards. I think the 4 outboards will be fine for fishing off the back.
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:29 AM
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Oooh man I love these builds.
But why go with quads instead of I/O's ?
Also when will the Xcelerator Boatworks website work again ?
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:35 AM
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Huckins tried this with a 50 they built for a retired Admiral back in the late 80's early 90's.

They used 4 OMC 250 hp Sea Drives.

Had a big spread in Motor Boating and Sailing about it and much excitement.

Never heard anything about it again, and with all the promotion they had done, it kinda makes you wonder. And they never did it again.

Boat was all foam and very light.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:19 AM
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Most owners of large sport fish rigs rarely back down hard enough to make a difference. I doubt the owner of this boat is a hard core fishermen.....just like most of the yacht club crowd!
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kln View Post
There are a lot of benefits, power to weight, interior room to name a couple.
Our website is in limbo right now but we are working to get it updated with the new project
Allright thanks and goodluck with the build.
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dude, go for it. i loved your last build. naysayers come from fear. fear of the unknown. lucky for peeps like you or we'd still be living in caves.
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Originally Posted by bluewaterseeker View Post
There was a video on here a few months back of some guys sailfishing in a trip verado boat. I don't remember the boat brand but they were backing down on the fish in some serious rough water. That boat was hauling ass backwards and taking water over the top of the motors!

kln, I'm looking forward to this build!
not to derail but is this the video you were talking about?
(happens at about 1:50)
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimano4Life View Post
not to derail but is this the video you were talking about?
(happens at about 1:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG0f0qfNgxg
Backing up with outboards No problem

KLN one less problem to think
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kln View Post
Glad to get a reaction positive or negative, just means we must be doing something right!

There will always be those that think in terms of "cant" and "won't." Those words aren't in our vocabulary. We prefer to just find a way to make things work, and work well.
"can't and won't" are differtent than "shouldn't"

I think that it will be a killer thread, an amazingly crafted and detailed boat. The OB's don;t bother me nearly as much as the enclosed FB. Even on a large Viking, it is tough to make the EB look good IMHO. Asthetically, an enclosed hard top express like the Cabo HTX or the F&S with the intergrated tower woulld look better.

I would not compare 80s 250 OMC Sea Drives to modern Yami 350's.

More power to you guys. Everything that I have seen from you look first class and this will be no exception. Putting your sack out there and making it happen is what makes this country great. Don 't let the naysayers (self included i guess) get you.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:18 AM
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So many haters on this site. I love it when another builder or corporation takes a risk and tries something new. If we didn't have people like that we would still be rowing boats and thinking the world was flat.
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Originally Posted by Shimano4Life View Post
not to derail but is this the video you were talking about?
(happens at about 1:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG0f0qfNgxg
yep, that was it. About two minutes into the video the water is coming over the top of the motors.
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Looks tippy....

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