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Old 09-23-2012, 09:26 AM
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I would like to here from folks and owners that have these boats and or fished on them. I am looking at a 90's Blackfin 38 Combi and a 2000-02 Luhrs 40 Open. The Blackfin has the Detroit power. I have read everything about theses engines and I am ready for the maintenance that goes along with them. I have an extensive mechanical background and a recent subscriptions to boatdiesel.com. The Luhrs have the Cummins power plant and I feel comfortable with that plant as well. I guess what I am asking is older Blackfin that needs work or newer Luhrs that is ready to roll now. They are priced relatively close to each other. I understand from reading things posted that the Blackfin is a solid platform minus the engines and possible wood rot where mounting holes have been drilled and improperly sealed. The Luhrs is also a solid platform in some years but the fit and finish of the boat lacks and small hardware replacement is a possibility to insure long life. The boat will be run in the Gulf of Mexico. Hopefully in seas no greater then 3 to 5. They can be very tight here though with a short period and very steep. This is a long term ownership and I would like to get the most for my money as anyone would. Not having had the opportunity to fish or ride on these boats in heavy seas any input is appreciated. If this has already been discussed in another thread please point me in that direction as I would like to read it but I think I have searched most all threads.

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:19 AM
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I would go with the Blackfin before the Luhrs, but I maybe be a little partial.
My question is what Detroits are in the boat you are looking at and what HP rating?
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Well I was looking at one with 6v92's at 550hp and one with 671TIB with 485hp. I have read that a detune on the 671's can bring a good result and proper care can go a long way as well. They both appear to be fair boats and I am planning to look at them both. Looking for a clean solid platform that can be repowered after a few years if needed.
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All other things being equal, the 550 hp 6v92's would be a better choice than 485 hp 671's. How many hours on the 92's ?
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You will have no need to pull the 550hp 6v92's unless you just wanted to??

That is a sweet set-up in the combi

You are not comparing apples with apples between a luhrs and a Blackfin

485 hp 671's will yield a 21-22 knot cruise

550 hp 6v92's will yield a 23-24 knot cruise
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Blackfin should be a better head seas boat in the conditions you referenced.
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Blackfin 3 / Luhrs 0
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I have been on 3 different luhrs. One of which was out of Destin and in a 2ft chop we got the snot beat out of us. All it did was pound and rattle, sucked. I have never been on a blackfin but can't imagine the ride being worse than the luhrs.

We have DD 8V92's and love them. They like there oil and fuel but run great. Proper maintenence is a must but for the most part very realiable engines.
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BLACKFIN! No Question

38 Combi is one of the baddest boats
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Originally Posted by Flybridge View Post
BLACKFIN! No Question

38 Combi is one of the baddest boats
Thank god you said "one" of, because there is one better, that would be a Flybridge
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The 6V92 via the broker are suppose to have 1050 total hours on blocks with one minor on them. Also I noticed one in Flordia, Ft Lauderdale to be exact but broker will not call me back. Does anyone know anything about that boat. Priced very cheap. So I would assume it needs a ton of work. It also has 6v92's but no other info hardly. Here is the link http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ng_id=1439&url=
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Thought about a flybridge but I think I would prefer the express style. Gets me closer to the fishing so that I can enjoy the fishing as much as running the boat.
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Originally Posted by Capt. Rob Baylor View Post
Thought about a flybridge but I think I would prefer the express style. Gets me closer to the fishing so that I can enjoy the fishing as much as running the boat.
Rob, you can't go wrong with either, where r u located??
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Way down south in Matagorda Texas. My wife and I are looking for a retirement toy. We have a nice Grady that is for sale and as soon as it is gone we are buying something.
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Another bad boat Rob, check this out http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...aukyachtsales&
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Way down south in Matagorda Texas. My wife and I are looking for a retirement toy. We have a nice Grady that is for sale and as soon as it is gone we are buying something.
I was thinking we could arrange for you to go on a test ride on one, I do have a friend in texas with one (combi) but I don't know him that well?? Sorry
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I would love to go on a test run but as you were thinking you are a little far away. If anyone else reads this forum and knows someone in the Texas area with one I could ride on that would be great.
Flybridge, Thank you for the link. I really like the dash layout in the newer boats however that is one nice looking boat.
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Originally Posted by Capt. Rob Baylor View Post
I would love to go on a test run but as you were thinking you are a little far away. If anyone else reads this forum and knows someone in the Texas area with one I could ride on that would be great.
Flybridge, Thank you for the link. I really like the dash layout in the newer boats however that is one nice looking boat.
If you're going to be dropping $150k on a boat, plus however much for surveying, dis/re-assembling, shipping, etc...

Is it really that out of line to look at dropping $1500 (1%) on flying to someone, renting a hotel room, and paying for gas to someone who's willing to take you out on his to get a feel for it?

Just a thought
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Our 38' FB cme from Texas. The original owner was John Murray, he was a big tournament fisherman and had her built.
I would think those 6v92's should be good for 3000 hours if you don't beat 'em up too bad. Good Luck and keep us posted.
Personally, I would stay away from the 36'.
As far as repowering down the road, those engines can be rebuilt in frame for around $2-3K per hole. Repowering w/ QSM-11's would be nice, have the weight and more HP, but it doesn't make sense to dump over $120K in a boat that you would never get back.
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SeasonTicket, I am mostly interested in the 38. I like the size of the boat. We want something that four of us can fish from on overnight trips and have plenty of room for everyone. I really like your boat. I wish I had not had knee surgery so climbing up and down those stairs would have been easier.
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