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Old 07-27-2012, 03:57 AM
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Just sold my 28' master marine (very steep entry and deadrise) and was looking for somthing to run offshore in New hampshire that would'nt rock so badly. The cat hulls seem like a good choice but there are'nt any north of Long island, do they just not work well up here in the short priod chop that shows up in a hurry? Of course the lobster guys say they suck, and the mono hull guys tell all the wives tales about them. Whats the real story? The rest of the world cant be wrong.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:06 AM
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I love my World Cat 27. I just think the dealer network is limited and does not cover your area.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:22 AM
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I used to have a 1999 Glacier Bay 2680. I LOVED that boat and thought it was perfect for New England. With a full glass-enclosed pilot house, I could run dry and warm in December and March. It had an amazing ride. I had to sell it when the 1989 engines were failing and I couldn't afford the repower.

We New Englanders are pretty traditional sorts. As I jokingly tell people, a crusty New Englander would say "I already have one hull, why do a new another one?!"
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:35 AM
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Take a look at the TomCat by Cdory, the TC 255. It's a great boat..
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Originally Posted by Tuna wishin View Post
Just sold my 28' master marine (very steep entry and deadrise) and was looking for somthing to run offshore in New hampshire that would'nt rock so badly. The cat hulls seem like a good choice but there are'nt any north of Long island, do they just not work well up here in the short priod chop that shows up in a hurry? Of course the lobster guys say they suck, and the mono hull guys tell all the wives tales about them. Whats the real story? The rest of the world cant be wrong.
Having ran a 28 master marine for a long time, i can tell you that the master marine is AS good as a comparible size cat in the chop, it WILL handle steep beam seas better then a cat. The cat will not rock as bad in tyical 1 to 3s on the drift, drifting a cat in bigger then 3's will snap roll pretty good.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:19 AM
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Suprised to hear you say the master marine would snap roll less in a beam sea, I found mine to be pretty violent, definatly needed a drift anchor to be comfortable drift fishing. I understand there are probably few boats in that size range that will handle 4ft + head on better that the master marine but I'm not a comercial fisherman and am probably not going out on ugly days. Mostly wondering if a cat in the 25' range will stuff the bow in a 3' head sea, I think it would suit my needs better in all the other areas.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:25 AM
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Take a look at the TomCat by Cdory, the TC 255. It's a great boat..
I LIKE that!
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:26 AM
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I was in Portsmouth NH a couple of weeks ago saw what looked like a Roger Hill designed catamaran. I was surprised because Roger is based out of New Zeland. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to snap a pic.
Here is a link to his website http://www.powercatsnz.com/public/in...wdesign&ID=172
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Originally Posted by Tuna wishin View Post
Suprised to hear you say the master marine would snap roll less in a beam sea, I found mine to be pretty violent, definatly needed a drift anchor to be comfortable drift fishing. I understand there are probably few boats in that size range that will handle 4ft + head on better that the master marine but I'm not a comercial fisherman and am probably not going out on ugly days. Mostly wondering if a cat in the 25' range will stuff the bow in a 3' head sea, I think it would suit my needs better in all the other areas.
On yachtworld there's a 26GB up for sale by you. Go sea trial it on a snotty day, come to your own conclusion. Honestly i didn't think my master marine was any worse then a 23 reg formula 233 on the drift, you have to remember its a narrow boat for 28feet, and the boat wasn't technically designed for drift fishing, trolling and harpooning was its purpose. I have had mine out at the hudson plenty of times, never had a problem.
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I have a 26 ft. World Cat and fish out of Boston Harbor. I have had it for only about a year, so I have not experienced all of the sea conditions, but I have been out in 3 footers.

It runs great into a head sea. Last fall I was out about 30 miles and I heard chatter on the radio of guys asking to ride back in a larger boat's wake to get a smoother ride. I just trimmed it so that the bow was down and cur right through. I was able to run comfortably at about 22 knots with 4 of us on board into the 3 footers with an occasional 4 footer thrown in. It ran very dry. A couple of times we got a little splash, but that was it.

Last weekend I was coming back from Stellwagan Bank with 3 footers on my beam. I found this more difficult. The ride back started with a slightly following sea, but turned to a full beam. This ride was not as comfortable for me as I got a bit of bow steer, but I just slowed it down to 18 - 19 knots and it was much more comfortable.

If you want to come down to Hingham some time, PM me, and I would be happy to show you how it handles.
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Its cause every new england yahoo wants a grady or whaler. I've been eying cats for the waters around cape cod...would love a 20-22fter with small twins.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:05 AM
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I'd Take Tom up on his offer, going mono to cat is alot different from going mono to mono. YOU have to ride on the boat to see if its what YOU want. Everyone is different
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Originally Posted by TDC_Tom View Post
I have a 26 ft. World Cat and fish out of Boston Harbor. I have had it for only about a year, so I have not experienced all of the sea conditions, but I have been out in 3 footers.

It runs great into a head sea. Last fall I was out about 30 miles and I heard chatter on the radio of guys asking to ride back in a larger boat's wake to get a smoother ride. I just trimmed it so that the bow was down and cur right through. I was able to run comfortably at about 22 knots with 4 of us on board into the 3 footers with an occasional 4 footer thrown in. It ran very dry. A couple of times we got a little splash, but that was it.

Last weekend I was coming back from Stellwagan Bank with 3 footers on my beam. I found this more difficult. The ride back started with a slightly following sea, but turned to a full beam. This ride was not as comfortable for me as I got a bit of bow steer, but I just slowed it down to 18 - 19 knots and it was much more comfortable.

If you want to come down to Hingham some time, PM me, and I would be happy to show you how it handles.
On a beam sea, try trimming the boat so it "leans" into beam sea. If the seas are coming at you on the port side, trim so the port of the boat leans down slightly into the oncoming waves. This has helped me.

Here's a helpful link on the WC forum: http://forums.worldcat.com/viewtopic...ections#p45060
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:24 PM
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I apreciate all the good info and the offer for a sea trial. I went for a test ride recently in a 25 sea cat and was very impressed with how smooth it was in small chop but conditions were far from being "snotty". Also I felt it was underpowered with 115's on it, as I understand it they smooth out at higher speeds, with those motors cruise was around 20 and top speed in the high 20's. I did really like the layout however alot more than my master marine.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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The Buzzards Bay 34 seems very impressive and is built for the local conditions. I have never been on one, though.
http://www.mdcats.com/
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:35 PM
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The water is not rough enough.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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I currently run a 2010 Glacier Bay 2640 with twin honda 150's the last year they made them until they updated them to the 2740. I can't believe that more people don't buy cats!!! I have owned mono's and I have to say that I dont think I could ever go back... I have been in 4-5 footers at 27 knots with out any issues, no pounding very smooth landing etc. This boat is my suv on the water, I just get in at go...I don't worry too much about what I encounter because this cat eats everything up, it goes in anything... I can run real shallow, 18" draft...I primarily run the long island sound, block island sound etc.. The nearest dealer up in your Region is Striper Marina, they are out of Barrington, RI
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
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I don't know, there are dealers here on long island but those boats seem to be unappealing for whatever reason. I figure if they are so great, why are not the manufacturers setting up free sea trials on snotty days to start a buying frenzy and converting everyone? My guess is because tbe mono hulls are more versatile in varying conditions and probably on target with that, otherwise.......?
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:15 PM
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At every major boat show down south The Power Cat Group does test drives. That is World Cat, Glacier Bay, Livingston and Carolina Cats. I never liked the way cats looked till I drove one. I own a World Cat and I will never go back to a mono hull.The best boat I have ever owned and I have had 16 boats.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:25 PM
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The power cat group has a lot of sea trial incentives to try to gEt people in the boats, I went to my dealer, Twin Hull Boats in Bridgeport, CT and they informed me that they basically sold all their boats, and the manufacturer is BUSY building boats...
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