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1962 28ft M.E.M.C.O. Sportfisher Restoration

Old 11-24-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post
There's only a few more things that need to be done before I can start powder coating. My oven is ready but my powder coating booth needed a little more tweaking. I hung a non coating metal track so I can hang my parts while I spray them. The metal track extends out from the booth so I can clip the ground wire to it from the powder coating gun. I decided to put a top on it to prevent any excess powder from escaping. I had a old sheet of ply wood lying around so I decided to use that for the top. Once I add a port to the powder coating booth so my shop vac can attach to it then I'll be done and ready to powder coat.










You can put a box fan filter on the back to capture the powder.
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Old 11-24-2018, 06:05 PM
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You can put a box fan filter on the back to capture the powder.
You can and some do. The problem with doing the fan/ AC filter is that the filter gets clog up very fast. A port to one side with a shop vac works really good. Inside my shop vac I have a filter and a bag. Everything that my shop vac collects goes inside the bag leaving my shop vac filter clean and breathable.

My main concern with powder coating is dust. Even though I will be wearing a mask/filter I still want to try to keep a dust free work place as much as I possibly can. If you notice in the video his environment is dust free. I'm not worried about the powder that falls at the bottom of the both because the shop vac missed it, as long as my environment is dust free. Once I'm done powder coating for the day I'll disconnect the shop vac from the both port and suck up what fell at the bottom of the both.


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Old 11-26-2018, 12:57 PM
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Charles Heston, the original owner and builder of the boat that I'm restoring lived a fulfilling life. It's a honor for me to have his boat and have the opportunity to bring her back to life. Mr. Heston was a big part of history in many ways other than boating. I continue to learn a lot about his life before he passed away. I wish I had the opportunity to meet him but unfortunately I'll only be able to learn about him from others and articles like this one.

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Thanks for the Jamestown code. Just what I needed to get me to stop procrastinating. Order placed.
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Thanks for the Jamestown code. Just what I needed to get me to stop procrastinating. Order placed.
SeaCamper, I'm glad the promo code worked out for you with Jamestown Distributors. I have always been pleased with there customer service and there name brand products. What did you buy from them? Do you have a thread on THT? If so post a link so I can follow you.

If any of y'all need sandblasting media, Northern Tool have a deal going on where you can get 3 50lb bags for $20. Normally 1 50lb bag is $50. This deal isn't advertised on there website. You have to go into the store to get this deal.

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Old 11-28-2018, 01:43 PM
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Even though I'm not done with the restoration I still have to wash the boat so the fresh paint job will continue to look good. It's not fun washing the boat because there isn't a water spicket any where near the boat for me to attach a water hose to. I have to attach two very long water hose together and run them around my house to the boat. That got old very fast and cause me to not wash the boat as often as I should have. Today I decided to step away from working on the boat and run a water line to it.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:52 PM
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That color on your boat really looks great and she's got beautiful lines.
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:27 PM
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That color on your boat really looks great and she's got beautiful lines.
Thank you. Sea Foam green is my favorite boat color. I'm glad I finally decided to run a water line to the boat and stop procrastinating.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:01 PM
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Default Powder Coating

I took several YouTube classes on how to powder coat and decided to put my powder coating degree to use today. I made some mistakes through out the day, but I learned a lot from those mistakes and hopefully I want make those same mistakes again.

(Side note) Before I continue with what I did today I have to bow down to doradohunter and humbly say something I hate doing. Doradohunter was right and I was wrong. doradohunter suggested that I add a box fan with a filter to my powder coating booth but I replied that adding a port where I can attach my shop vac would be better. I was 100% wrong and will be adding a box fan with a filter to my powder coating booth like doradohunter suggested. doradohunter thanks for the advice.

The biggest problem I ran into today was trying to get a piece of metal to hold the weight of the heavy boat cleat. I started out using paper clips but ran into two problems - -
1. The paper clip wasn't strong enough. These boat cleats has some weight to them and the paper clips kelp unfolding when I go from the oven, to the powder coating booth, and back to the oven again. I kelp dropping the cleat because the paper clip couldn't hold the weight of the cleat. 2. When I preheated the boat cleat I found out that the paper clip had a protective plastic cover on it. That's not good because the plastic melted and dripped on the cleat and when you are powder coating you need a non-coated metal object holding your piece that you are about to powder coat. In place of the paper clips I use the parts that I cut up from the metal oven grate that holds my objects that I'm powder coating. They where a lot more durable then the paper clips.

I also learned that you can burn powder. I had my oven on 400° and I baked the cleats for 30 minutes. But at 400° the powder was burnt so I have to redo one cleat. For the powder that I have it seems to like 350° for 30 minutes works best. Every powder coating manufacturer is different. There are some powders you only have to bake for 10 minutes once your powder has that melting look. Your time in the oven don't start once you put your object in the oven. Your time in the oven starts once the powder has a melting look. The steps that I took to powder coat was -
1. Sandblasting
2. Wash with dawn detergent
3. After I wash I pull the object out of the bucket with a glove hand so I don't get any oils from my hand on the object and rinse thoroughly
4. Bake in the oven for 5 to 10 minutes to remove all the water
5. Pull the HOT cleat out with long handle pliers and immediately shoot it with powder in the booth
6. Bake it in the oven again on 350° for 30 minutes
7. Remove from the oven and allow it to cool while it's hanging and not touching anything

All in all I did good today and I learned from my mistakes. My powder coating booth is going to work perfect once I follow doradohunter advice. I have a few more things to tweak but I can't wait until I get to powder coat again.



Here are the cleats before anything was done to them.


I hate stickers on vehicles but I enjoy putting them on my sandblasting cabinet. If anyone want to send me a sticker PM me and I'll put it on the sandblasting cabinet and post it on my thread.


Look who we have here. I've been working on my boat for about 6 years now and today the wife decided to come out and help for the 1st time. She did a good job sandblasting.






You can't tell this paper clips have a protective coating on them until you place them in the oven and they start burning.


Look closely and you will see the plastic protective coating from the paper clip melting. I had to sandblast this cleat again because the plastic dripped on it.


Burnt plastic from the paper clip. Had to start over because you can't use anything with a protective coating on it to hang your objects.




Purchase these so I can add and remove things easily from the oven.


While I'm waiting on my oven the heat up to the correct temperature I preheat the cleats before I spray powder on them.



A box fan and a ac filter will be added to the powder coating booth soon.


Snow white is the powder color


I rarely (NEVER) brag about something I bought from Harbor Freight but I has to say that this worked perfect.


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I made some mistakes, I learned from my mistakes, and I had fun today. This one turned out perfect. Now that I no what to do to get a good powder coated piece do to my mistakes that I made I look forward to the next time I get to powder coat.
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Easiest way to add the fan is cut a square hole a little smaller than the fan. Screw fan on outside of box. Staple cheap filters on the front of square hole. 2 cheap blue filters will filter it pretty clean for a while.
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Easiest way to add the fan is cut a square hole a little smaller than the fan. Screw fan on outside of box. Staple cheap filters on the front of square hole. 2 cheap blue filters will filter it pretty clean for a while.
Will do. Again, thank you for the tips/advice. I should of listened to you the 1st time.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:53 PM
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It's cool. I've been down this road before.
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Harbor freight has stainless safety wire spools. Should be just what you need and be a lot better than paper clips.
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Re: the wife helping. Some folks will do anything for a minute of internet glory!

Thanks for posting your project.
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Wire coat hangers from the dry cleaner also work well for supporting heavy pieces for paint/powder coat.
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question i've always had in regards to powdercoating is -- what about the tiny area where the hanging wire touches the object being powdercoated?
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Harbor freight has stainless safety wire spools. Should be just what you need and be a lot better than paper clips.
That's exactly what I need. I'll go get some and try it out. Thanks for the tip/advice.
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question i've always had in regards to powdercoating is -- what about the tiny area where the hanging wire touches the object being powdercoated?
That's a very good question. I wonder the same thing before I started powder coating. When powder coating you have to have some type of contact between your object that's going to be powder coated and your grounded metal source (paper clips, coat hangers etc etc etc). Once you have powder coated something you're going to have a very small spot where it's not powder coated because of the contact from the paper clip, coat hanger, etc etc etc. The goal is to get creative so you don't see the very small spot that's not powder coated. For example boat cleats, have your paper clip or hanger to touch the boat cleat where the head of the bolt/screw will be on the boat cleat once the boat cleat is installed. The VERY small area that's not powered coated will not be seen when my boat cleat is installed because the area that's not powered coated is in the area where the head of a bolt that's used to hold the boat cleat in place on the boat. Very good question coores14.
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Has anyone ever heard of Battle Born Batteries out of Reno, NV?
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​​​​​​ When it's time for me to buy house batteries I think I'm going to buy 12 volt lithium ion batteries. My electrical system is going to be a simple 12 volt system. All of my lighting will be LED so that want draw that much on the batteries. I stream all my music from my phone so my stereo system will be two portable Bluetooth speakers streaming music/radio from my phone. I will have a portable electric cooler/freezer so I'll have to see how many amps that will draw per hour. I'm going to have to consider bilge pumps also. Radar will be furuno 1st watch wireless radar​​​​​​ with two Ipad Pros (One for chart plotter and one for radar).
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​​​​​Overall the electrical system will be pretty simple. Lithium ion batteries are expensive but you get a 10 year warranty. If I went with lead batteries instead of lithium ion over a 10 year period I'm sure I'll pay the same as a lithium ion battery or more replacing the lead batteries every few years. I wonder if one 100 amp hour deep cycle lithium ion house battery will be enough. What do you all (THT) think?

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Save your money on the Lithium battery. If you were in a weight savings situation it say go for it. Put in 2 Interstate SRM29s and have all the power you need to run whatever you want and still save $600 on the batteries and more by buying a standard battery charger as well.
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