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Old 01-06-2019, 08:53 PM
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I just found you something easier. Order this 49" long. Its everything you need already cut threaded and in stainless.


https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Stain...-Ends,39136.ht


I was looking for stainless heim joints and found the kit
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
I just found you something easier. Order this 49" long. Its everything you need already cut threaded and in stainless.


https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Stain...-Ends,39136.ht


I was looking for stainless heim joints and found the kit
I just clicked on the link and nothing pulled up.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
Are the threads on the inside of that tube/bar? Are those greaseless heim joints?
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

Are the threads on the inside of that tube/bar? Are those greaseless heim joints?
Yes and yes. And the intended use for the product is a racing steering component so strength is not an issue.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:06 PM
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I also misread the ad. Order the 52.5" one
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
Yes and yes. And the intended use for the product is a racing steering component so strength is not an issue.
Do you think Iíll run into issues with the heim joints since they are greaseless?
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

Do you think Iíll run into issues with the heim joints since they are greaseless?
No I dont. They are self lubricating and I would just squirt some lithium grease on them every now and then
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
No I dont. They are self lubricating and I would just squirt some lithium grease on them every now and then
ok. I’m about to order it. Are you sure I need the 52.5 length bar? From rudder arm to the other rudder arm on my boat is 54 3/8 inches.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

ok. I’m about to order it. Are you sure I need the 52.5 length bar? From rudder arm to the other rudder arm on my boat is 54 3/8 inches.
The website said the length that I select the bar that I will receive will be 3 inches shorter than that.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

ok. Iím about to order it. Are you sure I need the 52.5 length bar? From rudder arm to the other rudder arm on my boat is 54 3/8 inches.
hold off. Let me find a longer one. Or build one
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:19 PM
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They offer it in 54. I'd order that one.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

The website said the length that I select the bar that I will receive will be 3 inches shorter than that.
You'll have to excuse me, I've been in the cooler quite a bit today so my reading skills have been lacking. The 54" bar is what you'll need. It will be 54" from hole to hole on the heim joints and is adjustable from there out or in.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
You'll have to excuse me, I've been in the cooler quite a bit today so my reading skills have been lacking. The 54" bar is what you'll need. It will be 54" from hole to hole on the heim joints and is adjustable from there out or in.
Thank you. I just order it. You have been a big help to me. Thank you again.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
You'll have to excuse me, I've been in the cooler quite a bit today so my reading skills have been lacking. The 54" bar is what you'll need. It will be 54" from hole to hole on the heim joints and is adjustable from there out or in.
If the bar is 54 inches and I install the two heim joints want that put me over 54 3/8 inches?
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:28 PM
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No problem. I'm off to youtubeland for the night.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 28memco View Post

If the bar is 54 inches and I install the two heim joints want that put me over 54 3/8 inches?
The bar will be 51" and then you screw in the heim joints it will be 54" if you back the heim joints out to 54 3/8" you will be right on
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Originally Posted by doradohunter View Post
The bar will be 51" and then you screw in the heim joints it will be 54" if you back the heim joints out to 54 3/8" you will be right on
Ok. Thanks again.
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Corndog38 View Post
I would not use a long threaded SS rod. Want to use tube for strength in compression. Agreed that galvanized would last way long enough. Can use SS tube with threaded ends tig'd in. Want enough threads to be able to set rudder toe-in.
What do you mean by setting the rudder toe in? Why don’t you want your rudders set in the straight position? If both rudders are set in any other position other than straight wouldn’t that create unnecessary drag? I’ve never heard of toe in toe out so all of this is new to me.

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Old 01-07-2019, 04:30 AM
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Most boat are set with a little "toe in" like pic #1. Prop wash from LH prop port and RH prop stbd spirals and the toe in offers the least rudder drag. Rudders usually are only in the upper half (or so) of the prop wash, so are in the upper part of the spirals.

We set leading edge of rudder about half inch closer than trailing edge, then test run the boat. One trick is to disconnect tie rod from the slave rudder and run the boat, and adjust tie rod so bolt drops right in. Sometimes this results in the best steering, sometimes handling in turns is a bit weird an the tie rod length has to be tweaked a bit.
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