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Old 12-05-2011, 07:16 PM
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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I say go for it. It won't hurt to ask and you'll regret it if you don't at least extend the offer. Your intentions are good, that's the bottom line. Good luck.
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:42 PM
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My old man bought a 1989 28ft Proline expess/walk around back in 03', he had restored about 80% before he had some health issues. Lacking electrical remodel and some trim. the motors are 89' Yam 200's that ran good. My family history with partnerships said no, I bought a boat I wanted and left the old man highand dry. yes I feel a lot guilty but the fight just wasnt worth it. well the boat has sat and gone down hill no maint, no progression for 4 years, I want to know if I would be outa line to say, hey old man, let me bring it to my house so i can tinker, maybe get her in the water before you go to the big meadow in the sky so you can at least enjoy a ride in your boat. He wants to sell, but put's foth no effort and the boat looks like a wreck but with a cleaning it's pristene. I am not looking for a handout nor do I want one, it;s a great boat, really needs repowered to be worth a damn but I wanna see my old man take a ride in something the busted his ass for. I am hesitant cause I don't want him to think I want the boat for free, I just wanna see the look in his eye when she goes. i can't afford to repower yet the motors on it have some life how much IDK but should be good. Am I wrong or should I just let her rot away at his house?
Lost my dad when I was 26.
I would give my left nut to have a chance to do anything at all for him.

Make the offer and let him say no if he wants to. You'll always live with "what if" should he pass away before you have a chance.
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Never had a Dad, I say do all that you can now, before it's to late!
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Originally Posted by s_ebels View Post
Lost my dad when I was 26.
I would give my left nut to have a chance to do anything at all for him.

Make the offer and let him say no if he wants to. You'll always live with "what if" should he pass away before you have a chance.
that's what I am getting at, he has done much for me with little in return, A ride in his boat is really all I want to see. my family doesnt alway;s see eye to eye and partnership will never work. I want this to be something for him to remember, like my boy (now he has 2 don't forget, the other has no intrest in this and we do not get along) made this happen.
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I say go for it. It won't hurt to ask and you'll regret it if you don't at least extend the offer. Your intentions are good, that's the bottom line. Good luck.
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If you bring it up to him, I can almost guaranty he'll go for it. Then take pics of the progress you make, it will put a smile on his face, and a skip in his heart...

Then you can talk about the repower...
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Tell him and your family that you don't want the boat or a dime.

Just work on it for free, spend time with him and get it in running condition for him. Give him your time, effort and whatever you can afford to donate to the project. One day, all you will have will be memories and you will give any amount of money to see his smile.

Make it clear that its not your boat nor do you want it, you just want to see your father enjoy it.
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Default I agree with your taking this posture.

However, if your Dad is anything like my Dad was then I understand your questioning whether you should do it. It was so easy for us to get crossways I got to where I would almost tiptoe around him, and ask nothing of him, at all, including something like this. I have some funny stories about situations where I still don't understand what went wrong. My Dad has been dead since '83, but I think of him everyday. He was a great man, but kind of had an edge I couldn't get past or near, whichever?
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Tell him and your family that you don't want the boat or a dime.

Just work on it for free, spend time with him and get it in running condition for him. Give him your time, effort and whatever you can afford to donate to the project. One day, all you will have will be memories and you will give any amount of money to see his smile.

Make it clear that its not your boat nor do you want it, you just want to see your father enjoy it.

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Old 12-05-2011, 08:59 PM
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However, if your Dad is anything like my Dad was then I understand your questioning whether you should do it. It was so easy for us to get crossways I got to where I would almost tiptoe around him, and ask nothing of him, at all, including something like this. I have some funny stories about situations where I still don't understand what went wrong. My Dad has been dead since '83, but I think of him everyday. He was a great man, but kind of had an edge I couldn't get past or near, whichever?
Although I'm not in the same boat, so to speak, I know what you are talking about. Forever wondering...
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Tell him and your family that you don't want the boat or a dime.

Just work on it for free, spend time with him and get it in running condition for him. Give him your time, effort and whatever you can afford to donate to the project. One day, all you will have will be memories and you will give any amount of money to see his smile.

Make it clear that its not your boat nor do you want it, you just want to see your father enjoy it.
x 2 - well said
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My Dad departed this world when I was 15. He got me interested in boating. He's been gone for 35 years, so to me the idea of still having a father at my age (51) seems so foreign to me that it seems like a blessing that is immeasurable.

He's a Dad, and you are his son, so whether he says it or not, he wants the same thing you do.... he wants that boat ride and wants you to be a part of it. Do it, even If you have to force it on him.
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Nightcrawler you my boy have some real issues. I am not going to suggest what do, but the first thing you need is to learn some respect.
Maybe your dad will tell to to sod-off and your conscience will be clear.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:29 PM
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He may very well be waiting for you to show interest in her! Ask him, and maybe you get some really memorable times out of the deal! Good luck.
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My dad's old 13' Whaler was restored for his 75th birthday. I'll never forget his smile when he saw it! When asked to take a ride he said "Hell no, I'm not riding in that butt buster!
It can't hurt to ask your dad. Go for it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:35 AM
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He may very well be waiting for you to show interest in her! Ask him, and maybe you get some really memorable times out of the deal! Good luck.
Yeah work on it with him together.

Wish I could.
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When I was two years old, my dad bought a '55 16' Lyman (we live in northern Ohio so boating/fishing is on Lake Erie). I pretty much grew up on this boat fishing with my dad and 3 older brothers. It seemed we fished every Sunday.

When I was 15 or 16 he sold the boat. My older brothers were pretty much on their own and I was the only one left at home. Perhaps he thought that soon he'd be the only one to use it.

Moving forward about 10 years, I was married and had a young son, and I bought a small runabout. He really didn't have an interest in fishing because he couldn't get around that well anymore due to arthric knees, so he never really would show interest to join me to fish.

In his mid-seventies he had a couple of mild strokes which left one of his hands almost unusable. After numerous conversations about how we used to go fishing, etc., I finally coaxed him to come fishing with me.

It was a bit of a chore geting him into the boat (made him wear a life jacket), but I got him settled in and we went out fishing. I helped him with the fishing reel because of his hand. He caught the only fish (walleye) on our brief trip out on Lake Erie but the grin on his face was worth a million bucks. You'd have thought he caught a record fish.

About 3 weeks later, Dad had a major stroke and lasted less than a handful of days. I am so grateful I had the chance to fish with him one more time and I'd take 10 years off my life to do it one more time. I think about that brief fishing trip everytime I go out on Erie.

I guess what I am saying is that make every effort to try and get your Dad's boat fixed up while you can. I don't know your situation but it may help make the peace. You don't know what's around the corner and it may be regretful down the road if you do nothing.
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Originally Posted by Night Cr[COLOR=Red
awler[/color];4195436]My old man bought a 1989 28ft Proline expess/walk around back in 03', he had restored about 80% before he had some health issues. Lacking electrical remodel and some trim. the motors are 89' Yam 200's that ran good. My family history with partnerships said no, I bought a boat I wanted and left the old man highand dry. yes I feel a lot guilty but the fight just wasnt worth it. ?? well the boat has sat and gone down hill no maint, no progression for 4 years, I want to know if I would be outa line to say, hey old man, you mean, Dad, right? let me bring it to my house NO, do it at his house so i can tinker, maybe No maybe's about it, if your serious, then be committed, be there every moment you can and get it done. Get him involved as much as possible. Even if he just sits there and barks orders at you. "Your doing it wrong, do it this way!" That's good, it shows he cares. Maybe he'll get up and help. If he yells at you, go give him a big hug and tell him you love him. get her in the water before you go to the big meadow in the sky so you can at least enjoy a ride in your boat. He wants to sell, but put's foth no effort and the boat looks like a wreck but with a cleaning it's pristene. START by going over and just washing and cleaning it up. That will only cost you time and it may be the jump start to get him fired up again to get involved. I am not looking for a handout nor do I want one, it;s a great boat, really needs repowered to be worth a damn but I wanna see my old man take a ride in something the busted his ass for. I am hesitant cause I don't want him to think I want the boat for free, Do you want to pay for the boat if that's a possibility? Be clear and HONEST in your own mind. I just wanna see the look in his eye when she goes. i can't afford to repower yet the motors on it have some life how much IDK but should be good. Am I wrong or should I just let her rot away at his house?
"He who hesitates is lost"



You will be teaching your family what it means to be an adult son. What it means to be doing something out of the goodness of your heart.

I wish you all the best.

My dad has been gone just over 2 years, My Mom, 11 years.


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I am 50 and my dad is 80. I consider myself very lucky as we have a great relationship.

I agree with the others who say do the work at his house. Make him welcome to help out. I didn't see how old you guys are, but do what you can to get past the prior issues. You will both be better for it. Even if you end up selling it, it will be worth more fixed up, and I'm sure it would be awesome to take him out on it.
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My old man bought a 1989 28ft Proline expess/walk around back in 03', he had restored about 80% before he had some health issues. Lacking electrical remodel and some trim. the motors are 89' Yam 200's that ran good. My family history with partnerships said no, I bought a boat I wanted and left the old man highand dry. yes I feel a lot guilty but the fight just wasnt worth it. well the boat has sat and gone down hill no maint, no progression for 4 years, I want to know if I would be outa line to say, hey old man, let me bring it to my house so i can tinker, maybe get her in the water before you go to the big meadow in the sky so you can at least enjoy a ride in your boat. He wants to sell, but put's foth no effort and the boat looks like a wreck but with a cleaning it's pristene. I am not looking for a handout nor do I want one, it;s a great boat, really needs repowered to be worth a damn but I wanna see my old man take a ride in something the busted his ass for. I am hesitant cause I don't want him to think I want the boat for free, I just wanna see the look in his eye when she goes. i can't afford to repower yet the motors on it have some life how much IDK but should be good. Am I wrong or should I just let her rot away at his house?

Go for it.
Any help Brad, Bob or I can be as to the project, I have no hesitation speaking for the three of us, that we'd be delighted.
Also, Pro-Line is going thru a hopefully short downtime period, however, I talk to Faron now and then at the Crystal River plant, and we can try to get you replacement parts that you might need, or at least be able to give you the part numbers and phone for the supplier.
I think your Dad is a pretty lucky guy.
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