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Old 12-04-2011, 08:16 PM
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Looking at a 2004 59 weaver with c30 cats and a 2002 weaver with mtu's 12v2000 Both have approximate 3000 hours. Anyone have an experience with either boat and or the engine packages. If the engines are scoped and check out would you be concerned about the hours
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Which one is the Spencer??
Old 12-04-2011, 09:37 PM
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Sorry. The 2004 with cats
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I know the weaver fairly well. Have seen the boat fishing the BBC in the bahamas and just haven't made it up to Stuart to see it with Tom Downey. Compared to the spencer I think the weaver runs circles around it. Maybe not is a tough head sea, but in fit and finish and imo just the over all lines of the boat. Is the spencer named Evans B? If so I have seen the interior shots of the boat and I just don't think it is anywhere close to the weaver. All in all the spencer is a good no frills (the one for sale not all spencers) fishing machine with a great ride, while the weaver is a nicer interior, overall fit and finish (take a look at the engine room) and would still give you a solid cruise and a great ride maybe just not as good. Weaver all day.
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3000 hrs is a LOT of hours for a boat. You are going to have some service needs. And it may not be too long before those needs involve a rebuild.
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Your high if you think 3000 is a LOT of hours especially on a sportfish
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Originally Posted by lb3 View Post
Looking at a 2004 59 weaver with c30 cats and a 2002 weaver with mtu's 12v2000 Both have approximate 3000 hours. Anyone have an experience with either boat and or the engine packages. If the engines are scoped and check out would you be concerned about the hours
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I know the weaver fairly well. Have seen the boat fishing the BBC in the bahamas and just haven't made it up to Stuart to see it with Tom Downey. Compared to the spencer I think the weaver runs circles around it. Maybe not is a tough head sea, but in fit and finish and imo just the over all lines of the boat. Is the spencer named Evans B? If so I have seen the interior shots of the boat and I just don't think it is anywhere close to the weaver. All in all the spencer is a good no frills (the one for sale not all spencers) fishing machine with a great ride, while the weaver is a nicer interior, overall fit and finish (take a look at the engine room) and would still give you a solid cruise and a great ride maybe just not as good. Weaver all day.
Ya know I'm surprised to hear that the Weaver isn't as good of a head sea boat as the Spencer, because from what I understand the Weaver has a very sharp entry and carries the V rather far aft, and also is a bit more narrow that other boats in its class. Although from the running pics I've seen the Weavers do seem to put a good amount of their hulls out of the water at faster speeds, so maybe the faster they go, they start hitting the waves with the flatter part of the bottom?

Anyway sorry to go a bit off-topic, I've always admired the lines of the Weaver boats, just hadn't heard a lot of chatter about their seakeeping abilities (as opposed to Spencer, Bayliss, Howell).
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3,000 hours on a pleasure boat is not low.
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I disagree. A nine year old boat with 3,000 hours means that the boat has had roughly 330 hours put on her a year. In my opinion that is pretty average. Definitely not anything to be worried about in my opinion, especially with such reliable engines and extremely well built boats like a weaver and a spencer
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lb3 - is the 2004 Spencer the one in Rockport, TX? If so, I know the boat, owner and captain, and can share some insight with you. All of which is good. The boat has been run by a world renowned captain and maintained with an open checkbook. I would put the boat, and its condition, up there with any in that size/class range.
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I would say that they similar but different. The fit and finish on the Weaver boats is excellent. Probably better than Spencer. Weavers are generally better in a head sea but you lose a little stability running cross sea. Spencers seem to plane easier and are better in a following sea.

I am partial to Weaver as I know Jim well and he has a great team. Neither of them suck!

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Just another question based on what I've noticed. Why does it seem alot of Spencers go back up for sale after only couple yrs owned ? ;?
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Originally Posted by HarborRd View Post
Ya know I'm surprised to hear that the Weaver isn't as good of a head sea boat as the Spencer, because from what I understand the Weaver has a very sharp entry and carries the V rather far aft, and also is a bit more narrow that other boats in its class. Although from the running pics I've seen the Weavers do seem to put a good amount of their hulls out of the water at faster speeds, so maybe the faster they go, they start hitting the waves with the flatter part of the bottom?

Anyway sorry to go a bit off-topic, I've always admired the lines of the Weaver boats, just hadn't heard a lot of chatter about their seakeeping abilities (as opposed to Spencer, Bayliss, Howell).
Sorry about that, I just mixed up the weaver/spencer. I have heard the weavers are wetter boats compared to the spencers but I guess its due to the large carolina flare. For me with the wife and all being VERY picky we have always leaned towards the weaver but if thats not the issue I think it would be a matter of which boat you could get at the best number. A hard and fun decision to make
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Either one is a great fishing platform. Sailfish18 brings up some valid points

Spencer might be more economical to run as it's probably lighter.

I fished on both and wouldn;'t hesitate to own either.

Engine hours wouldn't be a huge concern as long as ALL the required maintenance has been done at the correct intervals.
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i think the Spencer you are referring to is called the "Double Trouble" located in Rockport Texas, i have fished on it, fine machine. i know the capt. and owner and the Capt. is world class guy that kept boat in good condition.
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Originally Posted by rybovich18 View Post
3,000 hours on a pleasure boat is not low.
Those engines have just BROKE-IN. They should last well over 10,000+ hrs if maintained and ran properly within cruise RPM's.
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Go do some research on both engines. I would be for the Cats. Local shop here is doing a rbld on some MTUs and I was talking to them yesterday. Having some trouble burning valves and some heads had been replaced, as needed. Manager is a friend of mine and he said that the MTU service for that high hp engine was rbld at 6000 hours. That would concern me...
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Originally Posted by Team Balla's Steakhouse View Post
Those engines have just BROKE-IN. They should last well over 10,000+ hrs if maintained and ran properly within cruise RPM's.
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