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Old 10-26-2011, 01:17 PM
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Nah, just run to the bow and dump a bag of flower overboard.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:19 PM
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What can you do?? They are in a way in charge, and they know it. Do they push the envelope, HELL YEAH. But the system ain't perfect. Someone will shoot at them when boarding, be killed by return fire. May have already happened, but he said she said is one sided when boat owner is dead.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:20 PM
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I know this area very well. No, there really is not any more to the story other than the boats targeted are not occupied by people on vacation. All are poorly anchored, some are there to avoid slip rent, some are junk boats occupied by sketchy looking people "living off the land". Most are litterally falling apart, some are simply floating garbage heaps.

The local homeowners (taxpayers) complain about the livaboards. The local police try to run them off the only way they can. Others who might enjoy the anchorage on a transient basis can't because all of the good anchorages are pretty much littered with these junk boats. After every storm, local governments has to spend thousands cutting up and hauling off the ones that sink and are abandoned.

The whole problem is that no one has come up with a legally defendable way of differentiating between a floating bum and everyone else who might like to drop the hook for a few days.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scooperfl View Post
I know this area very well. No, there really is not any more to the story other than the boats targeted are not occupied by people on vacation. All are poorly anchored, some are there to avoid slip rent, some are junk boats occupied by sketchy looking people "living off the land". Most are litterally falling apart, some are simply floating garbage heaps.

The local homeowners (taxpayers) complain about the livaboards. The local police try to run them off the only way they can. Others who might enjoy the anchorage on a transient basis can't because all of the good anchorages are pretty much littered with these junk boats. After every storm, local governments has to spend thousands cutting up and hauling off the ones that sink and are abandoned.

The whole problem is that no one has come up with a legally defendable way of differentiating between a floating bum and everyone else who might like to drop the hook for a few days.
sounds like the old key west area.Titusville area and others around here have this problem also. fly over with a helicopter and see all of the abandoned boats , some under water , some half under water,some barley afloat . these boats are not worth the fuel our security forces use to check them out. Then the tax payer has to remove them after a storm as they washed up on their land.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
run around frantically yelling "HUT, HUT, HUT..... HUT HUT HUT...."
HUT? (insert coo coo smilie here)
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Old 10-26-2011, 03:23 PM
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several years ago i was running south bound in the icw just north of the cortez bridge at night. i was on plane looking for the start of the no wake zone when it seemed that all of a sudden there was a 17' carolina skiff in the channel runnin with no lights on. i could have spit on the boat as i passed it it was such a close call. well, as i passed him i yelled "hey a__ hole, turn on your nav lights!". a soon as i looked back to where i was going i noticed i was in the no wake zone. i pulled back just in time for the guy to light me up with the blue lights. he catches up to me and says, "well who is the a__ hole now?". i responded with "you are you f___ing douche bag". he boarded us and checked EVERYTHING and kept us for an hour while running us through the system.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:19 PM
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What do you suppose is done withe the sewage that is generated on those vessels? They must have some massive holding tanks. Either that or the sewage ferry comes along every so often to pump them out.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:29 PM
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i don't mind the useless boarding. what gets me is most of these guys purposely scuff up your deck with those nasty a** boots. and they get upset if you tell them to take them off. i personally dont wear shoes on my boat why should they
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:36 PM
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i don't mind the useless boarding. what gets me is most of these guys purposely scuff up your deck with those nasty a** boots. and they get upset if you tell them to take them off. i personally dont wear shoes on my boat why should they
Back when I was on active duty, the CG required the use of non-marking outsoles. I often took my shoes off for boardings. I didn't mind one bit.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:37 PM
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It very well could have been some form of harassment veiled under the guise of checking for drugs, and other violations.

Recently, the Bradenton/Sarasota waters have become sort of a battleground between the city/county officials and those who want mooring privileges. In the past, boaters would moor in the intercoastal waters sometimes in a permanent situation. Waste matter was found during water samples and the blame went to the mooring boats. An idea was raised to begin charging a daily mooring fee and inspections for waste disposals would take place.

Those who were mooring opposed the proposal and the matter is still being proposed by officials. So the battle goes on.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:44 PM
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So lets see if we have this right. Multiple para-military agencies from the customs to cg to local police to flw to whomever, all armed to the teeth, stage a coordinated simultaneous raid on a bunch of ugly boats with smelly poo buckets and bad carpeting.

They do this in the middle of the night putting themselves and the public at risk.

They find... drumroll... NOTHING.

And they did this because a bunch of over-privileged condo dwellers don't like the view with them there?

And this is somehow OK?
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I wouldn't shoot nobody but if i find you sneakin on my boat after dark with my family aboard im going to be pretty pissed off and might ask you to do alot more than take off your boots.
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
So lets see if we have this right. Multiple para-military agencies from the customs to cg to local police to flw to whomever, all armed to the teeth, stage a coordinated simultaneous raid on a bunch of ugly boats with smelly poo buckets and bad carpeting.

They do this in the middle of the night putting themselves and the public at risk.

They find... drumroll... NOTHING.

And they did this because a bunch of over-privileged condo dwellers don't like the view with them there?

And this is somehow OK?
Yup, that is pretty much it. I'm not saying it is right, but this is simply harassment (and currently the only tool that is available). The problem is down here we do not have a severe winter to do our dirty work for us.

As far as the "condo dwellers', I do have some simpathy. Just imagine; You save up, buy your dream house, then a bunch of those occupy Wall St. scumbags pitched a tarp in the street in front of your house, blocking everyone's use of the street, use your lawn for a toilet, walk through your yard, and steal anything you happen to leave outside. Oh yeah, and they are NEVER going to leave.
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Old 10-26-2011, 07:11 PM
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Hell years ago when I was driving trucks,and they just started pee testing.I got piss tested at every scale I crossed and some of them put a drug dog in my truck..that was like my house yet not a dam thing I could do about it..don't tell me about the law over stepping its bounds and I'm so tired of people with the if you have nothing to hide crap saying...its about your rights and their taking more away every day.
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:14 AM
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It really is distressing to see the threads about how overboard the various government agencies are going with these warrant less search's of boats now a days. Whats even more disturbing is the fact that this one appears to be done in such away ( after dark). It appears the government agencies are trying to cause an armed confrontation with boaters causing law abiding citizens to become a criminal to justify violating boaters rights even more. Also it is very scary to see how many people comment how they don't mind these violations of their rights in the name of security. The government is just testing the waters to see how far they can push the public a little at a time and take away your rights to free travel and speech.
I also do understand inspecting moored boats for proper sanitation devices and also safety equipment but this could have been accomplished doing the inspections at various times of the day with out the cloak and dagger night time boardings. As a former resident of the Space coast area of Fl I saw first hand how many dilapidated boats were anchored in coves with bums and other undesirables hiding out on them and the mess left to be cleaned up after the 2004 hurricane that sent many of these boats adrift and abandoned.
Last thing I have to say is that everyone who has commented on this thread and is concerned about it needs to go the the US house and Senate web site and send off an Email to your local house rep and senator. In addition if you are a victim of one of these search's or boat in an area that they are happening you need to write to the local authorities or attend the county and city council meeting to voice your opinion. This site is great for getting out the word on boating issues but it isn't going to accomplish anything if all we do is bitch about it in here.
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugbuster View Post
Nah, just run to the bow and dump a bag of flower overboard.

While that would cause more inconvenience to you it would be funny to see them jump in the water to try and save the "evidence". It would also inconvenience them in a huge way. Mountains of extra paper work for no reason and testing of the substance.

Hmmmm...an eye for an eye. Not a bad idea.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:49 AM
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Keep in mind where we are talking about...Longboat Key. I used to love the island when I was a kid, now I hate it. If you don't live there, you don't belong there. When I lived off Manatee Ave W in Bradenton, and it was a slow afternoon, I'd drive down Tamiami to the Ringling bridge, go over to the island, then a nice drive back up to Anna Maria. Can't tell you HOW many times a LBK cop would get on my ass (in my old Chevy Blazer). Just making sure I didn't stay around to long...

Remember, the Key got the airport to change flight paths so no approaches or departures flew over the island...$$$$$ talks...
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:22 PM
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Nothing I hate as much as a stinking cop!
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Nothing I hate as much as a stinking cop!
Although they never pulled me, I bet they didn't stink..would be against LBK ordanances...
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:49 AM
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If what Mike and the article said is part of the story, it's even worse.

They are harrassing boaters with night time searches for no other purpose than to annoy and intimidate.

Is this still america?

As for the trolls saying to search everyone everywhere, get a life. It's kind of a pathetic attempt to get people upset.
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I wonder if the boardings were held an hour or so apart...
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