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Old 10-21-2011, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
This should be in The Bilge section. It's getting pretty personal and political.
Is that all you have to contribute to the thread?
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
This should be in The Bilge section. It's getting pretty personal and political.
If you are talking about what I said, it was meant to be funny!
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:38 AM
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With all the boaters that are on here complaining about poor treatment by the CG, Customs, and local law enforcment departments I would like to know how many have taken the time after these boardings to write letters to there local house rep and senators informing them of hte problems and referencing the boarding documents if its a federal agency involved or if its local writen or attened a county commision meeting or town council meeting to address the issues? Blowing off steam in here is entertaining but it is not going to solve a common problem all boaters have at one time or another. If you have been boarded or are boarded in the future and you really feel your rights or property were abused let people in here know but also take the time to write some letters and complain to the elected officials that approve funding for these departments and also need your vote to get re-elected. They don't always listen to us but sometimes when they get enough complaints in writing they do actually react.
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Longtime watcher of this forum. Don't have all that much time to write. I too have had that same experience as the OP. I was stopped 28nm due East of Miami, in international waters, by a wayward FWC boat. The inspection, they claimed was for lobsters.

We were on a 75ft research vessel and the buggers couldn't climb up the rope ladder. In one thousand feet of water, how did they expect us to catch lobsters - by deep diving bell?

After we called the Coasties, they wandered off - until we arrived at the quarantine docks, where the police and all the a-z agencies wanted a piece of us. They tore the ship apart and left us with no choice but to immediately depart. We paid an enormous amount of money for fuel in Nassau - just to be rid of them. That was in early 2005.

Since then, we have avoided most US ports and re-flagged our vessel. The last administration made a mockery out of port security. While practicing on unsuspecting boaters, they've ignored the truck and rail traffic coming up out of Mexico. The current administration has ignored the Bill of Rights.

My crew feels much safer travelling into ports like Singapore, Darwin, Capetown and Manta than returning there.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:52 AM
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I dunno, this sounds like its all very regional at this point. I face NONE of these issues up here in NE.

The contacts I've had with the CG have all been cordial and they seemed to follow the golden rule, at least as far as I'm concerned.

We have no equivalent of your FLW, out fish and game wardens don't do LE work unless they stumble upon something.

We don't have drug task forces, or four or five different agencies with high speed pursuit boats. We have the CG and harbormasters and DEP.

It's a very friendly place up here. Of course, you can get busted, but if you do you will know why.

Hopefully we won't have a wave of immigrants from long island. That would change everything I guess.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
I dunno, this sounds like its all very regional at this point. I face NONE of these issues up here in NE.

The contacts I've had with the CG have all been cordial and they seemed to follow the golden rule, at least as far as I'm concerned.

We have no equivalent of your FLW, out fish and game wardens don't do LE work unless they stumble upon something.

We don't have drug task forces, or four or five different agencies with high speed pursuit boats. We have the CG and harbormasters and DEP.

It's a very friendly place up here. Of course, you can get busted, but if you do you will know why.

Hopefully we won't have a wave of immigrants from long island. That would change everything I guess.
I agree, Every time I have been boarded and inspected everything went well. But I dont think I could say the same if I was asked to leave my vessel and have it ransacked for no apparent reason (or probable cause)
One time tuna fishing with a friend we had the rib come along side to board, it was a comical event:
CG: stop your vessel we are going to board!
F: you are welcome aboard but we are not going to pull in our lines, youll have to board at speed.
GG: OK then.

after checking our permits and saftey gear one officer asked what we were fishing for
Then another officer asked how to get on the hardtop to inspect the Liferaft. the captian responded, "your not going on my hardtop!!! you can see the inspection sticker from there"

We pay their salaries...they work FOR US!!!!!
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I have said this before but now I am going to do it. My boat won't leave the dock without a video camera. Lets see what happens when these guys are all over the news and internet pulling this stuff. Boating public outrage comes to mind.

I haven't been harassed in a while, since I got the new boat actually. Odd because you would think the regular harassment....I mean boarding crews would target a new boat to the area instead of the same one over and over.
no chris they just have a hard-on for scarab 302's i get stopped all the time it's no big deal but i think thats a little exteme on their part i mean a remote controlled sub SERIOSLY!
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Old 10-21-2011, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
I dunno, this sounds like its all very regional at this point. I face NONE of these issues up here in NE.

The contacts I've had with the CG have all been cordial and they seemed to follow the golden rule, at least as far as I'm concerned.

We have no equivalent of your FLW, out fish and game wardens don't do LE work unless they stumble upon something.

We don't have drug task forces, or four or five different agencies with high speed pursuit boats. We have the CG and harbormasters and DEP.

It's a very friendly place up here. Of course, you can get busted, but if you do you will know why.

Hopefully we won't have a wave of immigrants from long island. That would change everything I guess.
That sounds lovely. If it didn't snow and get bitterly cold up there I would be living there. No seriously.....my parents are both from New Jersey and they moved down here 3 years before I was born. Had they stayed up there I am sure I would be there too.

But too be honest.....I'll take the harassment from the CG and year round boating over snow and half the boating.

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no chris they just have a hard-on for scarab 302's i get stopped all the time it's no big deal but i think thats a little exteme on their part i mean a remote controlled sub SERIOSLY!
I think you're right. When I had my Scarab I swear I could see them weaving through and past other boats at full speed to get to me. Hell one time I was idling past the CG station and before I knew it a crew was scrambling to a boat, they darted out their marina right towards me.

This was the time they slammed into me and nearly knocked my wife over holding our baby. This was also the time they were the rudest and most obnoxious. It was the one out of countless stops that I think about whenever I see a CG boat and it gets me fuming inside.

BTW....I like your quote in your sig line.
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Originally Posted by ghostrider42 View Post
. . . . . . . . . . . . My crew feels much safer travelling into ports like Singapore, Darwin, Capetown and Manta than returning there.
Good for you and your crew. Hope you will do that rather than stopping here in the US.
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
Good for you and your crew. Hope you will do that rather than stopping here in the US.
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Ghostrider42, sorry to hear you no longer care to visit this country. Not all people here are as rude as others.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scarab30 View Post
but i think thats a little exteme on their part i mean a remote controlled sub SERIOSLY!
Agreed, but, they have to justify buying such a contraption and their budget. Hopefully a american company built the damn thing so someone in this country benefits from their spending.
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Originally Posted by nsh View Post
Agreed, but, they have to justify buying such a contraption and their budget. Hopefully a american company built the damn thing so someone in this country benefits from their spending.

..hopefully it wasnt built on monday or friday cause..well , you know
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
This should be in The Bilge section. It's getting pretty personal and political.
[quote=CMEBoston;4103717]Is that all you have to contribute to the thread?[/Q TE]

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Don;t worry, we are keeping a lookout. this is a passionate topic and it is Boating related. we prefer that it plays out here
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
Good for you and your crew. Hope you will do that rather than stopping here in the US.
We've been boarded maybe 50 times since 2005 entering foreign ports that treated us with more RESPECT than US authorities.
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Ghostrider42, sorry to hear you no longer care to visit this country. Not all people here are as rude as others.
I love to visit the USofA, just not by water. We are entering Perth tonight (it's10:45 am Sat now) and will be on the quarantine dock until Sunday afternoon, at which time the crew and I will be heading for Ayer's Rock for some I&I
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
For example, in MA it's against the law to video or photograph a LEO during the execution of their duties.

Better check that fact again -
http://peacefreedomprosperity.com/56...endment-right/

One of the underlying issues in this type of situation is the basic fact that BOTH the officer and the person being boarded are unaware of their rights. Court cases such as Terry or Carroll have been perverted and manipulated for both the police and the defendant.


Two very famous and salient quotes apply here -

"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. - Kierkegaard"

"Who will protect the public when the police violate the law? - Ramsay Clark"

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Originally Posted by ghostrider42 View Post
We've been boarded maybe 50 times since 2005 entering foreign ports that treated us with more RESPECT than US authorities.
Y'know, the same applies to going through customs. Even the French are more polite than the US, and THAT is saying alot.

We, the United States, often have a serious problem with our public servants on a power trip. The experience the OP, and others including myself, has encountered in Port Everglades is not unusual. I will say that it seems to be regionally affected, with South Florida being the worst I've encountered.

Yes, I can cast aspersions at Florida..been here for over 1/2 a century.
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Is that all you have to contribute to the thread?[/Q TE]



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Rico and I avoid that area. I have been stopped 5 times in two years. And boarded twice. F the coasties.
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