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Old 03-24-2011, 11:42 AM
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Default Stuart, FL to Montauk, NY

I purchased a boat in Florida over the winter and now I need to get it to Connecticut. She's a 2002 41' Albemarle Express with twin Cat 3196's.

I have inquired into Dockwise and Sevenstar about placing the boat on a freighter and having it shipped up. The only problem with the idea is that the Jones Act requires that the freighter begin its travels outside of the U.S. before it delivers a boat into the U.S. For example, I would have to run the boat to St. Thomas or the Bahamas to meet the freighter. The freighter would then deliver the boat to Newport Rhode Island. Long story short this little venture will cost $20,000.00. The only positive coming out of putting the boat on a freighter is that you don't put the wear, tear and hours on the boat.

My plan is to run the boat up on her bottom. Does any have experience in making this run? I have a 490 gallon tank. What is the optimal speed to run? How much fuel burn should I anticipate. How many days should I expect (weather pending obviously). Any info/experience would be greatly appreciated.
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There is a member here that did it with a 46 bertram, I don't have much to offer, but that is one sweet boat to be making the run in, congratulations
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That would be a fantastic maiden voyage for you with your new boat.

Congrats on the new boat.
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Made the run from Cape Cod Ma to Hilton Head, SC last November. Running my boat from HH to Cape Cod this May. So I can't help you south of HH but from there north..

The trip is really a lot of fun. Obviously watch the weather! But you can run inside on the intracoastal or outside most of the way up. From HH I will run to Beaufort NC - Town Docks. Nice safe harbor, nice slips. From there I will run to Rudee Inlet in Virginia beach - also easy. From there run to Atlantic City NJ, and then from there to Cape Cod.

I plan on starting my return trip on May 12. If you are travelling the same time, let me know.

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You should get close to 2 nmpg at 7 kts, which will give you about a 750nm range at that speed. You might want to make it in two segments: one run up the Gulf Stream, which will add 2 kts to your speed, from Ft. Lauderdale (just an assumption) to Hatteras, NC; and then from Hatteras, NC to Montauk, NY (also in the Gulf Stream). Running at 7kts will not harm the 3196's as long as you run them up to full cruise for 10 minutes and wot for 2 minutes every 6 hours. At 7 kts (8.5 kts sog) it is about 130-140 hours cruising time, and you will need to watch the weather.
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Take an experience Capt. with you that has done that run before. If not read the water way guide thoroughly, and check the web site for the latest update on the ICW. Hopefully you can run outside most of the way, but you will be in the ICW for some of it.
Here is a rough itinerary:
Stuart to St. Augustine
to St. Simons
Hilton Head
Charleston
Wrightsville
Beaufort, NC or even to Coinjock
Norfolk
Cape May or Atlantic City
Montauk
You might be able to drop one or two of these depending on your range and how many hours a day you want to run.
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
Take an experience Capt. with you that has done that run before. If not read the water way guide thoroughly, and check the web site for the latest update on the ICW. Hopefully you can run outside most of the way, but you will be in the ICW for some of it.
Here is a rough itinerary:
Stuart to St. Augustine
to St. Simons
Hilton Head
Charleston
Wrightsville
Beaufort, NC or even to Coinjock
Norfolk
Cape May or Atlantic City
Montauk
You might be able to drop one or two of these depending on your range and how many hours a day you want to run.

I agree that these are the places to look to head into and that part of the trip might be in the intracoastal but better to stay outside. HH to Charleston is fairly close, you can make it to Georgetown SC or evne into Beaufort NC on the right day (depending on your range, but I think your boat has the range to make it). Norfolk and Rudee Inlet (virginia beach) are very close. Rudee Inlet is 5 minutes in and out. Norfolk much longer run to get inside.

Just my experience. Going around the Outerbanks is where you really want to watch the weather. Any northerly or northeasterly winds I would run inside or wait out due to wind against current with the gulf stream.

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Originally Posted by li32 View Post
you should get close to 2 nmpg at 7 kts, which will give you about a 750nm range at that speed. You might want to make it in two segments: One run up the gulf stream, which will add 2 kts to your speed, from ft. Lauderdale (just an assumption) to hatteras, nc; and then from hatteras, nc to montauk, ny (also in the gulf stream). Running at 7kts will not harm the 3196's as long as you run them up to full cruise for 10 minutes and wot for 2 minutes every 6 hours. At 7 kts (8.5 kts sog) it is about 130-140 hours cruising time, and you will need to watch the weather.
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The problem with running outside is if you get strong Northerly winds, against current, the waves will be very steep and an uncomfortable ride. If the wind is from the North West (as it is some times)--getting back inshore will take a bit longer time, and you will have inlets to run. You will get the best fuel economy at the displacement speeds, but it will take longer. If you elect to run on the ICW, there are going to be some "no Wake zones"--and maybe a few bridges to slow you down. But the running generally will be smoother. I have gone up and down both inside and outside. Inside is considerably longer. If you have the time, run inside--it is a great trip--not worth going to the Virgins and shipping!
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I made this run last April in a 34' Luhrs from Jacksonville, Fl to Newport, Ri. It was a fantastic trip and I would do it again in a second. Only do it if you are confident in your skills and your boat.

We ran the following

Day 1: JAX to Charleston, SC (Ocean Side)
Day 2: Charleston, SC to Grand Strand (ICW)
Day 3: Grand Strand to Beaufort, NC (ICW)
Day 4: Beaufort, NC to Coinjock, NC (ICW)
Day 5: Coinjock, NC to Norfolk, VA (ICW)
Day 6: Norfolk, VA to Cape May, NJ (Ocean Side)
Day 7: Cape May, NJ to Block Island, RI (Ocean side, Outside of Long Island)
Day 8: Block Island to Fall River, MA

The ICW is absolutley worth the extra time running. You need to pay attention though as it can get easy to run aground. Watch the weather especially is running the outside as you can hit some heavy water really quick.
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Think I would put at least 30 hours on it before I headed offshore. I believe your mileage will be as good at 8 knots as 6.
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Why not drop her on a semi and truck her north? Try these guys...they run north a few times a week and I've moved some pretty good size loads. They own their own rigs and are dependable.

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I've done the trip both ways half a dozen times each way. It's not difficult, but you do need to do some planing in advance. First off, stay on the outside as much as you can, if the weather's that bad, wait until the next day. You need to figure out how many miles you can cover in a given day at your speed. Leave each morning after the sun comes up, and tuck into an inlet about 2 hours before the sun goes down, play it safe, it's best to run in the daylight if you don't know the area. Choose inlets to go into based on your speed, range and length of daylight, and how close they are to the inlet, you don't want to take a 10 mile ride to get to a marina. And stick to the bigger inlets, they tend to have more places to get fuel and most will have a slip for you or let you spend the night on the fuel dock if you filled up there. Go inside at Cape Fear inlet and back out Masonboro Inlet to avoid the sholes, it's a short ride. Then go inside at Beaufort and take the inland route, (I reccomend the steak dinner at Coinjock) coming out at Norfork, their's a lot of bridges coming up to Norfork, don't take your time between openings or you'll miss the next one! After that it's a pretty easy trip. Do yourself a favor, buy or borrow a set of the cruising guides, whoever's doing the navigating will appreaciate it and watch the channel markers, their is a point where the red and green markers flip from one side to the other! I did the trip once from Lauderdale in 4 days, but we were flying. But you should be able to do it in 5 to 6 days max with that boat. A lot of the marinas will have places to eat near by and some will give you a lift in town if you need one and ask nice. Bring spare filters (a lot just in case) some belts and tools, and make sure the boat is up to the trip. And a good crew, that knows what their doing, and can deal with staying on a boat for a few days is great. Pack food for lunches, make brreakfast on board so you can get an early start each day. And pack some extra clothes just in case, or if it gets cold. Don't forget the blankets (make sure the heat works).
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Just finished this trip yesterday.....

Day 1: Beaufort, NC to Coinjock, NC (ICW)
Day 2: Coinjock, NC to Norfolk, VA (ICW)
Day 3: Layday in Norfolk due to weather
Day 4: Norfolk, VA to Ocean City, MD (short Day due to weather)
Day 5: Ocean City, MD to Atlantic ity, NJ (short day due to weather)
Day 6: Atlantic City, NJ to Clinton, CT

Day 1 and 2 the temps were in the 70's.....day 6 it was snowing in NYC and LI Sound and we were making ice on the flybridge.....

Be prepared to run short days or take lay days if you have to....the weather doesn't always cooperate.....fuel averaged about $3.70/gal. Your fuel burn will primarily depend upon how you run your boat and weather. Same goes for your speed......

Plan extra time into the trip.....have fun!
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Jenny B

A lot of very good advice given here. I did the trip last June with a friend from Savannah Ga. To Washington DC in a 32' Albemarle Express with Cat 3126 diesels. We went in the ocean the first two days and came in at Cape Fear to the ICW to Southport Marina, rode the ICW to Norfolk, Chesapeake Bay to the Potomac River to home port.
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Jenny B, how did this trip go? Curious of you experience since I might also be taking the same trip....

I am going to Florida to look at 35' Viking with Cat 3208's. If the boat looks as good in person as the photos and a survey comes back solid, I am looking at making this trip with one or two experienced captains/friends who offered to come. 20 knot cruise with a 325 gallon tank. A full tank should get me about 300NM at 20 Knots according to current owner.

I'm going to try to stay outside the entire time and would rather lose a day at a dock than go through the ICW. The sooner I get home the better, due to work limitations. The plan we quickly came up with was

Day 1: Fort Peirce,FL to Charleston, SC
Day 2-3: Charleston, SC - Beaufort, NC (re-fuel to avoid Oregon inlet)
Day 3-4: Beaufort, NC to Cape May, NJ
Day 4-5: Cape May to Montauk

When would you expect the weather to be most cooperative. I cannot do this trip in May or June due to work...

Would anyone advise against steaming this aggressively? If the weather allows, we want to make this trip as fast as possible, but wasn't sure about running the diesels so hard? They are 2010 with only 800 hours on them, and previous survey was clean.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and advice.
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I own a 36 luhrs 36 convertible.I bought it in solomons MD i ran up the Chesapeake to the C and D canal to the Delaware river running at 22 knots used a have tank of fuel mine holds 400 gallons, Spent a day in cape may NJ great [place nice people there. Fueled up and ran straight to Montauk NY about 200 miles fueled up again about 200 gallons. Next day ran to Boston in about 7 hours.
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It's only been 8 years since so I sure hope he made it.
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It's only been 8 years since so I sure hope he made it.
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Kriswithak, if your plan is to run this boat up the coast in the next few weeks, your plan is too aggressive. There's virtually no chance the weather this time of year will cooperate sufficiently. First, your day one leg from Fort Pierce to Charleston, S.C. is much too long. That's a 360 nm ocean run and you will be 80 nm offshore when you are near the Georgia line. On a new to you 35 foot Viking in February or March, that's not a trip I would be comfortable with. Charleston to Beaufort, NC is not a big deal. You cut inside on the Cape Fear River and head up the ICW and head outside again at Wrightsville Beach. This way you avoid Frying Pan Shoals. Beaufort to Cape May is really too long for a day. Cape May to Montauk is doable in a day but you will be running out way offshore. This is a late Spring trip the way you want to do it and the boat must be up to the far offshore task.

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