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Old 01-12-2011, 05:22 AM
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Hello THT,

This is my first post and I am looking for some advice so any help would be most appreciated.

I plan on exporting a boat from the USA to Australia. From my searches so far there are so many makes and models that I am just as confused as when I started this journey. You Americans definitley know how to build such awesome fishing machines and there are too many to choose from. What I am looking for is advice from you guys as no one knows your boats better.

I'm looking for a 18 - 21 footer centre console, single outboard (preferrably Etec or optimax). The boat and motor must be atleast 2001 model. My budget purchase price is $30,000. What makes should I look at? The boat must be very capable and handle a 3-5 foot chop whilst still staying dry. I do a lot of drift fishing so stability is important.

Lastly, any recommendations for reliable boat exporters would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 01-12-2011, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluewater_Aussie View Post
Hello THT,

This is my first post and I am looking for some advice so any help would be most appreciated.

I plan on exporting a boat from the USA to Australia. From my searches so far there are so many makes and models that I am just as confused as when I started this journey. You Americans definitley know how to build such awesome fishing machines and there are too many to choose from. What I am looking for is advice from you guys as no one knows your boats better.

I'm looking for a 18 - 21 footer centre console, single outboard (preferrably Etec or optimax). The boat and motor must be atleast 2001 model. My budget purchase price is $30,000. What makes should I look at? The boat must be very capable and handle a 3-5 foot chop whilst still staying dry. I do a lot of drift fishing so stability is important.

Lastly, any recommendations for reliable boat exporters would be appreciated.

Thanks
Depending on where you find your boat, I use Bobby Keel at CARGO GROUP, in Savannah, Ga.
I've always been 100% satisfied with Bobby's service, as have my Aussie customers.
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Welcome to THT!

There are several Australia members here who have brought boats down under, I am sure they will chime in.

If your $30K budget has to include shipping, I would focus on mid-tier brands like Sea Hunt, Seaswirl, Pro-Line and Trophy. You should be able to find a decent selection in the South or West which should help with shipping costs to Australia.
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welcome aboard and best of luck,,,,many many options,,,happy hunting
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If your $30K budget includes shipping you are in trouble. Mike may know more exacyt numbers, but a couple of years ago I was involved with shipping a 23' hardtop down under. Cost to ship was in the $8K range. Make sure whomever arrnges for the shipping can handle the issues with either trailer or cradles. Australia has some really quirky things about certifying any wood product that comes into the country.

Good luck!
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a 21' boat will cost you about 12-15 grand to ship. Also be sure the trailer meets Aussie specs. Try ASF Logistics in Savannah, GA they do a lot of shipping to OZ
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a 21' boat will cost you about 12-15 grand to ship. Also be sure the trailer meets Aussie specs. Try ASF Logistics in Savannah, GA they do a lot of shipping to OZ
Strange thing about the trailer regs.
Portions of the country, not enforced, nor cared about.
Other area's, extremely important.
Your correct, the issue must be addressed.

Issue often missed is the quarantine matter.
Need to spend a whole lot of time, with a whole lot of bleach, in the bilge area's, and any other area that can hold any type of residue.
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This is the type of boat my family uses in Alaskan coastal waters when we fish with the smaller boats.
Made by Wooldridge and an amazing boat in rough chop..which is all we have it seems.
These are dry ridding boats.

97.5" beam,.160 bottom gage,30 degree dead rise bow wave breaker bow.

They come in center console and also the cockpit forward with walk thru windshield.
You can get a center console to 24'.
I know of several for sale well within your price range.
They are made in Washington State and can be found for sale used all along the Pacific Northwest.
We have several of these in our family .
Shipping costs a little less because of our west coast location.




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Check with Wye River Marine. They are down the road from us. They find and ship boats to AU for customers weekly. http://www.wyerivermarine.com/
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18-21 foot boat that handles 3-5 foot seas and stays dry.....MAKE SURE AND TELL US ALL WHEN YOU FIND SUCH A RIG. Best of luck on the search.
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Best bet is to search around at home & talk to people who have actually done it before.

I have bought 3 boats in the US & brought them to Bermuda. There is alot to it. Any dealer is going to tell you anything to get the sale. Most will not have clue one on what the shippers require. Be sure to get a dealer with some export experience, even if his boat costs a little more. You will save in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Bluewater_Aussie View Post
Hello THT,

This is my first post and I am looking for some advice so any help would be most appreciated.

I plan on exporting a boat from the USA to Australia. From my searches so far there are so many makes and models that I am just as confused as when I started this journey. You Americans definitley know how to build such awesome fishing machines and there are too many to choose from. What I am looking for is advice from you guys as no one knows your boats better.

I'm looking for a 18 - 21 footer centre console, single outboard (preferrably Etec or optimax). The boat and motor must be atleast 2001 model. My budget purchase price is $30,000. What makes should I look at? The boat must be very capable and handle a 3-5 foot chop whilst still staying dry. I do a lot of drift fishing so stability is important.

Lastly, any recommendations for reliable boat exporters would be appreciated.

Thanks

Join this site, there is a large number of guys that has imported boats from the Good ol US, there is even a few very detailed reports on what went on and if they would make any changes if they did it again, just use the search button this site

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/index.php
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Gday and thanks for the comments. My $30,000 does not include shipping or trailer costs so I should get a decent boat for that money.

I have had a quote to ship a 21' Contender from Florida for $15,000 landed costs, plus $5,000 for a custom made Petersen trailer in the US. I don't know much about the Contender boats but just used it as a guide. I was thinking that there may be a less expensive option from the states. Obviously i cant escape the GST and Australian port costs.

I will definitley have a look at the make/models you suggest. Are there brands that I should stay clear of for structural and ridability issues?
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Originally Posted by mike carrigan View Post
Strange thing about the trailer regs.
Portions of the country, not enforced, nor cared about.
Other area's, extremely important.
Your correct, the issue must be addressed.

Issue often missed is the quarantine matter.
Need to spend a whole lot of time, with a whole lot of bleach, in the bilge area's, and any other area that can hold any type of residue.

those guys seem to find a leaf in every boat no matter how good you detail it. For us, it only stopped when my guy there started going to the port and met the guys. We were shipping quite a few so he got to be freindly with them.
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Originally Posted by Bluewater_Aussie View Post
plus $5,000 for a custom made Petersen trailer in the US.
Who did you get your Peterson trailer quote from?
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The Australian agent for Petersen trailers quoted that price. Doesn't it look right?
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Thats correct. It would be high for US price but after import thet would be a fair price. Peterson makes a good trailer.
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Hi mate
as a fellow Aussie battler :-) i have imported several boats over the last 5 years, essentially one thing that is apparent is that the difference in price (not asking price but price boats are actually sold for) is not that great between Aus and USA
There are a few costs you need to factor in that no one tells you about -
Trailer - i have had several different trailers made and all built to Aus specs - once they get here (i am in WA so specs vary) you will need to replace a lot of things (brake lines, chains, tow hitch , lights) + if your vin year doesnt match what dotars believe should be the right year they will not register it -this is a night mare! - i love Alum trailers, they are lighter, look better and tow better + dont rust - but resale here is pretty ordinary
Boat import - everyone here wants a piece of you because you must be making money if you are importing a boat (tall poppy syndrome) AQUIS went banana's on my last boat -fumigation, detox water tanks, removal of fuel, then to get it off the wharf you need a "ticket" - that is you need to be registered to go on the wharf -i got charged 400 to move a boat from one side of the gate to another... awesome value add there
Boat transport - a few people are loading boats in sideways into containers (removing hartop/windscreen and sometimes outboard + removing fluids) this makes shipping a lot cheaper -assuming the boat gets here undamaged - i have seen 4 done like this and of the 4 two boats were damaged, both times due not due to the containers packing but the way they are handled at the wharf (trailer packed in sideways did damage) - the damage was cosmetic but insurers repair cheaply -that is anyone buying it in the future will know its been damaged, so i would only recommend roll on roll off unless you can get it in the container conventionally (normally beam is the killer here)
What you see is not always what you get - 2 of the boat si have imported have arrived a little lighter -electronics, batteries and even an outboard cowl gone - thats fine you can claim on insurance but the excess is not 100 bucks - it usually starts at 1-2k

Your shipping quote will often not include port charges, and over land tranport - this can be significant 500 to transport a short distance -you cant hop on a plane and fly over to argue! -
if your paying 30 US (aud same level so doesnt matter) + say 15k for shipping = 45k AUD
45k USD @ 0.98c (banks dont do stuff for free either)
46k AUD + gst 10% = 50,600 (gst is on shipping too), allow 1-2k for import broker + port fees etc 2k + AQUIS fumigation 1k + say another 1K for things you cant think of (like insurance) your up to 56k + trailer mods to register 2-3k and your nearly at 60k this assumes it is a US produced boat with US components other wise ad 5% imort duty to the purchase price.
On top of all of this you are banking on the fact that there is nothing wrong with the hull/motors, plumbing, fuel tank, pumps etc - all my pumps and bilge wiring needed replacing on my second boat because it sat with the bung in and bilge access open in the rain for a month (got flooded)
I am not trying to deter you, simply pointing out that sometimes the real value is right in front of you - there are some imported boats here for sale at prices you could not import them for -just worth checking - good luck with the journey - if nothing else it will give you some stories to tell the grandkids one day :-)
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PS -if you are looking at a brand -i have brought in 5 different 23-32 footers - my favourite and arguably for me the best value and sea keeping of all of them is Pro-line - look at model years 2000+ - you should find plenty of these in your price range
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Hi mate
as a fellow Aussie battler :-) i have imported several boats over the last 5 years, essentially one thing that is apparent is that the difference in price (not asking price but price boats are actually sold for) is not that great between Aus and USA
There are a few costs you need to factor in that no one tells you about -
Trailer - i have had several different trailers made and all built to Aus specs - once they get here (i am in WA so specs vary) you will need to replace a lot of things (brake lines, chains, tow hitch , lights) + if your vin year doesnt match what dotars believe should be the right year they will not register it -this is a night mare! - i love Alum trailers, they are lighter, look better and tow better + dont rust - but resale here is pretty ordinary
Boat import - everyone here wants a piece of you because you must be making money if you are importing a boat (tall poppy syndrome) AQUIS went banana's on my last boat -fumigation, detox water tanks, removal of fuel, then to get it off the wharf you need a "ticket" - that is you need to be registered to go on the wharf -i got charged 400 to move a boat from one side of the gate to another... awesome value add there
Boat transport - a few people are loading boats in sideways into containers (removing hartop/windscreen and sometimes outboard + removing fluids) this makes shipping a lot cheaper -assuming the boat gets here undamaged - i have seen 4 done like this and of the 4 two boats were damaged, both times due not due to the containers packing but the way they are handled at the wharf (trailer packed in sideways did damage) - the damage was cosmetic but insurers repair cheaply -that is anyone buying it in the future will know its been damaged, so i would only recommend roll on roll off unless you can get it in the container conventionally (normally beam is the killer here)
What you see is not always what you get - 2 of the boat si have imported have arrived a little lighter -electronics, batteries and even an outboard cowl gone - thats fine you can claim on insurance but the excess is not 100 bucks - it usually starts at 1-2k

Your shipping quote will often not include port charges, and over land tranport - this can be significant 500 to transport a short distance -you cant hope on a plane and fly over to argue! -
if your paying 30 US (aud same level so doesnt matter) + say 15k for shipping = 45k AUD
45k USD @ 0.98c (banks dont do stuff for free either)
46k AUD + gst 10% = 50,600 (gst is on shipping too), allow 1-2k for import broker + port fees etc 2k + AQUIS fumigation 1k + say another 1K for things you cant think of (like insurance) your up to 56k + trailer mods to register 2-3k and your nearly at 60k this assumes it is a US produced boat with US components other wise ad 5% imort duty to the purchase price.
On top of all of this you are banking on the fact that there is nothing wrong with the hull/motors, plumbing, fuel tank, pumps etc - all my pumps and bilge wiring needed replacing on my second boat because it sat with the bung in and bilge access open in the rain for a month (got flooded)
I am not trying to deter you, simply pointing out that sometimes the real value is right in front of you - there are some imported boats here for sale at prices you could not import them for -just worth checking - good luck with the journey - if nothing else it will give you some stories to tell the grandkids one day :-)
cheers
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For those of us that might have a wild hair and want to advertise our boats to the Australian market...which websites are the most popular in Oz?

Any Australian members that have links they'd like to provide, feel free to post them here or send to me at rspickering@gulftel.com

I have my current boat for sale for $26K, and a comparable boat in AU is $70K...so there's a lot of room...even with $12K shipping costs added to the price.


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