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Old 12-08-2010, 10:35 AM
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I would love an ice machine in my garage. But when I looked at the cost it would take almost 34 years to break even.

We have one of those "ice huts" down the street. You can buy 50lbs for 2 bucks bulk ice. For 10 bucks I can fill up the fish box.

Just can't justify the cost.
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vc,

Basically, my partner [Honeywell engineer] and I have designed something very much like a heat exchanger that works as a cold exchanger. We only have a few prototypes at this point but if you're interested in testing one for us something could probably be arranged. The unit captures the chilled rinse water from the evaporator and the ice cold water from the drain and prechills the incoming water without comingling them.

As you might imagine, if you can reduce the incoming water temp you can increase your ice production if you are constantly emptying the machine or reduce your energy cost if your machine is full most of the time.

Much of the time my ice machine sits out on a dock in the sun being fed by a garden hose. The incomming water is 90 degrees or warmer. Our device knocks that temp down about 15 or 20 degrees, making it much easier for the ice machine to turn that water into ice.

mikeloew,

Commercial ice machines recycle the water that you hear passing over the evaporator but at the end of the cycle, some of that water goes down the drain to carry off contaminants. Their design is a little wasteful of cold water.

I would NEVER use a water cooled ice machine unless you have a supply of free or very inexpensive cool water. Your water bill will make you cringe. Warm water doesn't do you much good either. You can cool a water cooled icemaker with water pumped out of a canal but if it's warm water your ice production will suffer.
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Just finished installing a small Manitowoc Qd0272a in my basement. "stole" it from my brothers bar that just went out of business as small consideration for money owed me. While it's only a 100# bin it makse 260#/day so a cooler or two taken the day before will get me throught most trips. Don't forget to buy a good filter. I grabbed the filter witht he machine but was a little lazy when I hooked up the machine. makes all the difference now that I added the filter unit.
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Originally Posted by HDRyder999 View Post
vc,

Basically, my partner [Honeywell engineer] and I have designed something very much like a heat exchanger that works as a cold exchanger. We only have a few prototypes at this point but if you're interested in testing one for us something could probably be arranged. The unit captures the chilled rinse water from the evaporator and the ice cold water from the drain and prechills the incoming water without comingling them.

As you might imagine, if you can reduce the incoming water temp you can increase your ice production if you are constantly emptying the machine or reduce your energy cost if your machine is full most of the time.

Much of the time my ice machine sits out on a dock in the sun being fed by a garden hose. The incomming water is 90 degrees or warmer. Our device knocks that temp down about 15 or 20 degrees, making it much easier for the ice machine to turn that water into ice.

mikeloew,

Commercial ice machines recycle the water that you hear passing over the evaporator but at the end of the cycle, some of that water goes down the drain to carry off contaminants. Their design is a little wasteful of cold water.

I would NEVER use a water cooled ice machine unless you have a supply of free or very inexpensive cool water. Your water bill will make you cringe. Warm water doesn't do you much good either. You can cool a water cooled icemaker with water pumped out of a canal but if it's warm water your ice production will suffer.
I'd be interested in being a tester for you for sure - but it wont make a difference to install it until it gets hot again.My machine is out on the dock and it's a smaller size one - 95 lb/24hr with about a 30 lb hoper. In the summer we kill it each time we go boating or just having a dock party and sometimes go next door to neighbors machine and get some of their ice to help out as once I empty mine out its done till the next day becuase it takes it so long to recover when it's 95-100 degrees outside. I have thought once or twice to redo my water line and run the last 20 feet as deep underwater as I can go and come straight up into the water filter to try cooling it down like that, but sometimes the water temp is warm at 86-90 degrees and figure that wont help much.

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I caught the ice man loading the coolers at Food Lion last year and asked him about getting one and having the ice delivered to the house, he said as long as I paid for 40 bags a week at a cost of between 1.10 to 1.25 a bag, they would deliver the box to the house for free. Trying to do the math, but i think this may be the way to go for me, and then I could probably sell the excess to my buddies. No Brainer, or not? I run at least 3 charters a week.
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Originally Posted by fishman 77 View Post
I would love an ice machine in my garage. But when I looked at the cost it would take almost 34 years to break even.

We have one of those "ice huts" down the street. You can buy 50lbs for 2 bucks bulk ice. For 10 bucks I can fill up the fish box.

Just can't justify the cost.

Well i can understand why it would not work for you. But I have never heard of Ice Hut and pretty sure there isn't anything like it in my neighborhood. I figure a brand new Ice Maker for my needs is around $1800-1900 brand new. Most have a three year warranty. I use about $40 to $60 monthly or more in Ice for parties, fishing, sponsored events that I do --so about $600 avg. in yearly ice. Maybe more cuz the gas station charges $3.50 for a bag and I usually get a sleeve a fishing trip. But conservatively, I guess a little over 3 years to get my return.....but there's the cost of water, electric and such, so maybe a bit more. For me, there's also the convenience of having it at home always. Especially if there is a Hurricane and I can hook it to a generator.
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Originally Posted by RocknReeln View Post
Alot of good pointers on here so thank you very much to all that have made recommendations....I'm in between the Manitowac and the Hoshizaki. Is the Stainless steel design and the water cooled features important enough to spend the extra dough for the Hoshizaki? What's difference does it make between the crescent shaped ice and cubed, other then the shape, of course?

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Originally Posted by HDRyder999 View Post
vc,

Basically, my partner [Honeywell engineer] and I have designed something very much like a heat exchanger that works as a cold exchanger. We only have a few prototypes at this point but if you're interested in testing one for us something could probably be arranged. The unit captures the chilled rinse water from the evaporator and the ice cold water from the drain and prechills the incoming water without comingling them.

As you might imagine, if you can reduce the incoming water temp you can increase your ice production if you are constantly emptying the machine or reduce your energy cost if your machine is full most of the time.

Much of the time my ice machine sits out on a dock in the sun being fed by a garden hose. The incomming water is 90 degrees or warmer. Our device knocks that temp down about 15 or 20 degrees, making it much easier for the ice machine to turn that water into ice.

mikeloew,

Commercial ice machines recycle the water that you hear passing over the evaporator but at the end of the cycle, some of that water goes down the drain to carry off contaminants. Their design is a little wasteful of cold water.

I would NEVER use a water cooled ice machine unless you have a supply of free or very inexpensive cool water. Your water bill will make you cringe. Warm water doesn't do you much good either. You can cool a water cooled icemaker with water pumped out of a canal but if it's warm water your ice production will suffer.

Im interested, I have a 600 lb machine. Its air cooled and all the melted ice water constantly is wasted on to the ground.
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i have a scottsman 15 years old no repairs...it sits in a garage,during summer it will only make about 70-80 lbs a day[rated for 125].this is in middle georgia which may be hotter than fl. during summer.I ran the water drain into a 5 gal bucket for the dog to use and ran a overflow to wifes flower garden. forget the economy of making ice vs buying ice,once you have a ice machine you will not be without one. p.s. flowers seem to love cool water.
Old 12-09-2010, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RocknReeln View Post
Is that inline before the water gets to the unit? ;?
The filter should be placed inline before it enters the ice maker. Put it in your supply line.

As far as water cooled units, someone else mentioned about free water. He is correct, unless your water is free/cheap, you will see an increase in water usage using a water cooled. Flat rate priced water is the only reason i have water cooled.
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TwentyFourSeven,

The only prototype unit I have right now is for a small ice machine. Surely before the weather warms up I'll have a larger one. Keep in touch and most likely you can test it out for us. All I ask is feedback on increased ice production or shorter cycle time.
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Originally Posted by RocknReeln View Post
Well i can understand why it would not work for you. But I have never heard of Ice Hut and pretty sure there isn't anything like it in my neighborhood. I figure a brand new Ice Maker for my needs is around $1800-1900 brand new. Most have a three year warranty. I use about $40 to $60 monthly or more in Ice for parties, fishing, sponsored events that I do --so about $600 avg. in yearly ice. Maybe more cuz the gas station charges $3.50 for a bag and I usually get a sleeve a fishing trip. But conservatively, I guess a little over 3 years to get my return.....but there's the cost of water, electric and such, so maybe a bit more. For me, there's also the convenience of having it at home always. Especially if there is a Hurricane and I can hook it to a generator.

Thats seems cheap for an ice machine. The ones I need to just fill my front cofin box run in the 3 grand range. Thats after I did all the math to see what I need for one trip. The "ice hut's" are all over charleston in grocery store parking lots. Put in a buck fifty, put your cooler under the shoot and walla its half full. Its a nice setup, guess I am lucky. Or you could go in the store and pay 3.50 for a small bag......

Trust me poeple do it all the time.
Old 12-09-2010, 11:36 AM
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You cant beat the convenience of a large in-home ice machine. Ive had two Manitowocs-the first was a 180 lb head and a 240 lb /day head. It was great but not enough ice for me, As many have stated the stats for these machines are in ideal temperatures for both the water coming in and ambient temp. I now have a 600 lb/day machine and a 400 lb bin. That works much better-I can fill a coffin box to nearly the top and ice my drink cooler for a Bahama trip. If I bought another, Id go even bigger, but thats just me. I ve had great luck with Manitowoc and they are fairly priced too. Hoshis are more money.
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Originally Posted by HDRyder999 View Post
TwentyFourSeven,

The only prototype unit I have right now is for a small ice machine. Surely before the weather warms up I'll have a larger one. Keep in touch and most likely you can test it out for us. All I ask is feedback on increased ice production or shorter cycle time.

Absolutly, I use a hell of a lot of ice during the summer. My bin is 4' wide by 4' long by 4' tall not sure how many pounds it holds but we empty it sometimes and in the summer it takes more than a day to re fill its self.
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Originally Posted by TwentyFourSeven View Post
Absolutly, I use a hell of a lot of ice during the summer. My bin is 4' wide by 4' long by 4' tall not sure how many pounds it holds but we empty it sometimes and in the summer it takes more than a day to re fill its self.
Sounds like you have about the same size I do. I have a Manitowoc as well and have been very happy. Before hurricane Katrina, I had an Ice-o-Matic. Definitely had more problems with that unit, although nothing too bad. This Manitowoc, however, is trouble free and easy to maintain. It struggles in the summer months, but it is in a large metal boat shed, which gets extremely hot. Does anyone know if extreme high temperatures can actually damage these machines? Just curious.
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Can you guys please post up the model numbers---if you don't have it, look online. I'm making a decision today.
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Originally Posted by RocknReeln View Post
Can you guys please post up the model numbers---if you don't have it, look online. I'm making a decision today.
Scotsman CME656....... six years trouble free........ Had two mani's that lasted about ten years each... all with very heavy use.

If buying new either are good machines.
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My Manitowoc is a Q270. At the time, it was the biggest 120vac model available. Mine goes with me when I travel.
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In my opinion, you guys should read more reviews before making your decision, many ice machines on market right now, some good brands: NewAir, Scotman or SPT...
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Yeah! Manitowoc is real Ice maker for a garage. It works correctly, and I don’t listen to any fault regarding this. I think this is good for you .https://icemakershub.com/

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