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Old 06-30-2010, 06:06 PM
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If I were to buy a CC with a T-Top and would prefer a Bimini top, is it practical to remove the T-Top?

I assume ( I know what A.S.S.U.M.E. stands for) there would be holes left in the deck that would need to be filled in or is this just a bad idea period?

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Old 06-30-2010, 08:17 PM
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Tell me why you want to remove it and I'll do my best to convince you to keep it. If you really think that a bimini is a better fit for you I don't see why would wouldn't be able to remove it and fill the holes. Just know that you'll be paying a premium for the t-top during the purchase. I'm not a big fan of bimini tops though.
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no kidding I've had both bimini and t-tops...keep the t dude!!
Old 06-30-2010, 10:03 PM
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My t-top is bolted to the floor and to the console in 10 different spots with 2 or 4 bolts at each location. No way would I consider removing it! Plus it has lights on top and wires in the posts...
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Doesn't a bimini provide more shade?? I've never owned a boat so I don't know these things.
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You will find the shade with the T-top and no straps to get in the way fishing.
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Originally Posted by deuceroadster View Post
Doesn't a bimini provide more shade?? I've never owned a boat so I don't know these things.
At least you're in a good spot - THT - to learn some things. Take your time. Do some homework. Do some searches on the site. Generally speaking, someone has been in your shoes, someone has had great success and someone has made mistakes (myself included in my share of the former). That said - this is the first I have ever heard of a T-Top removal without intent of replacing it.

I wouldn't say that a T offers less shade. I would say that a bimini makes garaging easier. Beyond that, a T offers a number of benefits - hand holds, storage (t-bag), place to mount electronics antennae and rods out of harms way. The T also likely adds value, and should you decide boating is not for you, the removal would add to any depreciation you encounter.

In the end the decision is yours, and be confident that you are making your boat suit your needs.
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Originally Posted by deuceroadster View Post
If I were to buy a CC with a T-Top and would prefer a Bimini top, is it practical to remove the T-Top?

I assume ( I know what A.S.S.U.M.E. stands for) there would be holes left in the deck that would need to be filled in or is this just a bad idea period?

Thanks
I do not think it is practical.

If you have a very specific reason for a bimini vs a T-Top and you are going to buy, then buy with a bimini.

The price that you will pay for the Ton the boat, the pain in removing , the loss of value and the cost + work of adding a bimini don't make sense.

Why do you want to go from T-Top to Bimini? If it is for shade add a
T-Top Extender. I bought one for under $300 and it covers the whole bow of the boat.

http://t-topextender.com/
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The only reason I was considering removing it was because I thought a bimini gave more shade.

Thanks for all the input, I didn't even know you could get a T-Top extension, that sounds like my best option.

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x2 on keeping the T-top. If you absolutely need more shade, you could get the extension, but seems like it'd get in the way of access to your rocket launchers.
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A bimini can definately offer more shade, but there is a tradeoff......especially if fishing. Access around the bimini is not fun.

I'm looking at another boat. For the sea trial I took my boat with the family to the marina. I happen to have 2 biminis and put them up at the same time......pretty much all of the boat is shaded then. I took my family with me for the sea trial. Kind of felt like we were chasing the shade on the other boat during the sea trial. Assuming I do get it, I'll mount a bimini (or 2) on the new used boat for when I'm going out on a family cruise. If fishing the bimini will stay home.
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Meant to add, it looking at used boats then by all means do it if you decide that's what you want. You can probably sell the T-top.

Of course seal any and all open holes appropriately.
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You can even have a smaller bimini made for the bow, It will look a little like a clam shell, and it could be lowered to fish around if needed, but would keep momma or seasick kids out of the sun,
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Originally Posted by Capt Bud4222 View Post
You can even have a smaller bimini made for the bow, It will look a little like a clam shell, and it could be lowered to fish around if needed, but would keep momma or seasick kids out of the sun,
And that is called a "Bow Dodger", so you know what to ask for should you decide to go that route. Add some bow cushions, and you'll keep the Admiral happy...which is what counts!
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Default Ttop or Bimini, Sunbrella or vynil, then dar is ze question

Originally Posted by deuceroadster View Post
Doesn't a bimini provide more shade?? I've never owned a boat so I don't know these things.
I battled this decision 4 yrs ago on my SH. I opted for the Bimini because:

The Ttops mfgrs offered:
end at most a foot from gunwale (think white sides and solar reflection)
end right at the seat or not far enough to cover the helmseat
tend to crack if you like to ride at speed over wakes and go offshore when it gets gnarly.


From other boats with hardtop Ttops I gathered (31Contender, 32Sea Vee, YF, etc.:
No matter what direction you head you are always in the sun. You are in full shade only at noon.
Passengers tend to attempt to stand under the ttop and are alway clinging to it while running. the largest number of passengers move around with shade and tend to lean boat in that direction.
When it rains copiously water flows off ttop onto seat and off sides inside boat.

I elected to get an 8' Stainless steel bimini that is supported side to side by console and SS pole front and Aft. It is good to 47 MPH. It covers past the outer edge of the gunwale and 1' behind the helmseat. In addition it is easy to add a second bimini that presses under the main bimini for fwd support extending shade all the way back above motor. It keeps everything under it in shade. I am not in the sun unless it is befo 9 AM or after 5 PM. The second bimini being aluminum is only good up to 35 mph.

With Ttops you are only in the shade at noon. If you want shade get a bimini. If you can find a 10'L by 9' wide SS bimni in 1" tubes rip the guys hand off. Better yet let me know I need one for my bigger boat. The ttop is really just a place for passengers to hang onto.

If I could have gotten a Ttop that extended 4' in front of console, all the way to the gunwale outboard end and 2' behind the helm seat I would have gotten a Ttop. No one offers such a Ttop. There are Radar Arches that offer that kind of coverage but I have only seen Intrepids and Novuranias with it, usually there is a second bimini behind it. Lately I see a lot of Ttops with some attachment to add shade front and back (the sides are not covered and you again end up in the sun. I even see Ttops with a Bimini in front and another in back.

The sun is a brutal adversary to white folks. Little irregular skin growths recur from being out in direct sunlight. It takes a skin doc to check it and usually remove it (precancerous growth).

Get the bimini or check out a full cover radar arch with extension. If you can get a solid plastic top on the arch you will be in 7th. heaven.

Sunbrella lets a lot more sun through than heavy vynil.. I replaced Sunbrella with vynil. Sunbrella requires extra maintenance to prevent leaks and/or rain mist penetration. I don't have the time to treat sunbrella every year. I'd rather throw away the vynil and get a new one every 5 yrs.

I hope this helps and I have added value..

Some day some people will realize that white floors are solar reflectors..

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:39 AM
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solarfry:

That helps a lot, thanks! Whatever boat I buy will first and foremost be a family boat. We will be using it on freshwater so I believe, after your detailed description, that a bimini is the best choice for me.

I'll adjust my search for a boat without a T-Top, no sense paying for something I can't get full use out of.

Again, thanks to all for the input. Your knowledge and experience is extremely helpful.
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I guess Solarfry has never been to a custom top shop. You can get tee tops and biminis made any way you like. Width, length, canvas covering colors, etc are all up to you. Here is a link to Birdsall Marine Design: http://www.birdsallmarine.com/. This will give you some idea of what can be done. I'm sure there is someone in your area that can build what you want, whether it's a bimini or a tee top.

If you are buying a used boat that already has a top, a tee top extender type add-on might be what you need. If you are buying new, you could probably order what you want. Personally, I like tee tops because they offer me more benefits. You may not be looking for the same things as me in a boat so your choice may be different.
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Personally, I like T Tops, but my other half is not so keen on them, she preferred the bimini on my last boat. I think out of the 20 or so trips she went out on the boat last year, we only put the top up once when it started sprinkling, other than that, she likes the sun. Then again, she thinks the boat is designed for island hopping and cruising.....diving is just an added benefit for me. I had the bimini up on just about every trip I took without her.

Guess it all depends upon your usage. For lake usage, I would definately go with the bimini. I used to have a MasterCraft and added a bimini because we would ski so much and I wanted the protection. For offshore, I would go with a T Top or Radar Arch with attached bimini, primarily because of the antennae mounting capabilities.
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I like my T-top for a lot of reasons but as far as shade, it is minimal. Better than nothing, but not nearly as good as a bimini.
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If you are in a high sun area (like I am) the bimini will offer much greater shade, period. Particularly if you get a large one. A problem with the t-top extenders is that most of them cannot remain deployed when you are running at speed, so they have to be at least partially retracted/stowed at such times.

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