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Old 12-15-2009, 06:38 PM
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I do, I love YF boats, great boats...but they're not the only boat in the ocean: they cant walk on water or turn water into wine.
Yellowfin does make a fine boat and no they don't walk on water or turn water into wine. Neither do the Freemans, yet

Yall can stir the pot a little, but please dont turn this into a pissing match.

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Old 12-15-2009, 06:55 PM
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Enough talk more Pics
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:20 PM
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Enough talk more Pics
Is Yamaha coming out with a new Shifting/Binacle system? Thought they couldnt get more than 3 engines to work with 2 throttle levers?

Thats why all the Quad boats are powered by Verado's.
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Is Yamaha coming out with a new Shifting/Binacle system? Thought they couldnt get more than 3 engines to work with 2 throttle levers?

Thats why all the Quad boats are powered by Verado's.
Yamaha has had that since the 350's came out and now have it on the 250 fourstorkes since last year.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:04 PM
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From a cat guy. Why only a 13' beam. With twins on each sponson that will yield a standard tunnel. That happens to be the weakest link of a cat. The lack of a decent size tunnel to properly channel water thru.

I would of like to see at least 16' of beam on a 40' cat.



It will be a beast of a boat.
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:28 AM
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i was under the asumption that the new yam 300 was being delivered in april. that mean we should see them on a YF by 4/15 i would say.
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Originally Posted by UaVaj View Post
From a cat guy. Why only a 13' beam. With twins on each sponson that will yield a standard tunnel. That happens to be the weakest link of a cat. The lack of a decent size tunnel to properly channel water thru.

I would of like to see at least 16' of beam on a 40' cat.



It will be a beast of a boat.
I agree 100%. Huge fan of cats and feel that a 40'er should have a huge beam. The only dissapointment in the Mamba 350 is the 10'9" beam.
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I agree 100%. Huge fan of cats and feel that a 40'er should have a huge beam. The only dissapointment in the Mamba 350 is the 10'9" beam.

Unless you need more deck space and want to add more weight, 13 is plenty wide for a stable ride.

Try hauling out and trailering something wider.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ufg8rmike View Post
I agree 100%. Huge fan of cats and feel that a 40'er should have a huge beam. The only dissapointment in the Mamba 350 is the 10'9" beam.

The 33' in my opinion has excellent handling characteristics, so we basically scaled the 40' off of the 33'. The customer wants to be able to trailer this boat from time to time without having an escort. When the beam gets wider than a 3:1, the boat starts to look like a square box. Believe me, a 13' beam on a center console is gonna be HUGE.

I walked around the Mamba and thought it had plenty of room, the only glaring deficieny IMO was the narrow gunnels. They only appeared to be 5" wide. Nice boat though.
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Originally Posted by bully View Post
Yellowfin does make a fine boat and no they don't walk on water or turn water into wine. Neither do the Freemans, yet

Yall can stir the pot a little, but please dont turn this into a pissing match.

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That would be awesome if this thread didn't turn into a pissing match. I've followed all of your other builds and really enjoyed them. You seemed like a class act builder with a humble personality; I hope that hasn't changed...I wish you the best with the 40' build.

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Billy,

How do you plan on delivering it to Texas. I was thinking your 250 might not have enough for this bigger boat.
Good luck with the build.
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Originally Posted by bully View Post
The 33' in my opinion has excellent handling characteristics, so we basically scaled the 40' off of the 33'. The customer wants to be able to trailer this boat from time to time without having an escort. When the beam gets wider than a 3:1, the boat starts to look like a square box. Believe me, a 13' beam on a center console is gonna be HUGE.

I walked around the Mamba and thought it had plenty of room, the only glaring deficieny IMO was the narrow gunnels. They only appeared to be 5" wide. Nice boat though.
Your right, 13' will be huge, can't see trailering something like that too often though. She'll be a beast! Still waiting to see the completed pics of the new glass 33 and would love to see what it does with the new lighter Yamaha 300's. A few set backs have put our next purchase on hold for bit longer than expected, but we are still between the Mamba and Freeman.
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Originally Posted by BiloxiGuy View Post
That would be awesome if this thread didn't turn into a pissing match. I've followed all of your other builds and really enjoyed them. You seemed like a class act builder with a humble personality; I hope that hasn't changed...I wish you the best with the 40' build.

I still feel like I am a modest person by nature. I will admit that my confidence is a bit higher with the success of the 33. I get emails and reports from my Venice captains how their customers are blown away by the ride and that it rides much better than the other big time center consoles that they usually fish on.

It is hard to hold back sometimes, but being arrogant usually get you no where. Poking fun can be taken wrong sometimes as well. I will do my best to keep my personality as you are used to it.

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Originally Posted by King Neptune View Post
Billy,

How do you plan on delivering it to Texas. I was thinking your 250 might not have enough for this bigger boat.
Good luck with the build.
Good question. The owner is probably going to get at least an F350 to tow it back. Maybe even a hauling service. My truck will tow it, but at what cost? Tranny, rearend?
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Originally Posted by bully View Post
I still feel like I am a modest person by nature. I will admit that my confidence is a bit higher with the success of the 33. I get emails and reports from my Venice captains how their customers are blown away by the ride and that it rides much better than the other big time center consoles that they usually fish on.

It is hard to hold back sometimes, but being arrogant usually get you no where. Poking fun can be taken wrong sometimes as well. I will do my best to keep my personality as you are used to it.

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You have plenty to be proud of. It's been a treat watching you build your boats and your business over the years. Looking forward to watching you build this uber catamaran.
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Screw it drive the 40 to texas. Hes got the money for that boat fuel shouldn't worry him to much, plus its a great test of the boats capability. Do a write up and take tons of pics, maybe get into a magazine while your at it. Maybe even fish a lil. Now that's a maiden voyage.
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
You have plenty to be proud of. It's been a treat watching you build your boats and your business over the years. Looking forward to watching you build this uber catamaran.
And I agree, you do have plenty to be proud of! Looking forward to following this build as well!

And as far as the beam, I agree 100%. Why change what works? You kept the exact same length/beam ratio as the 33'. Why on Earth would you change that? I've been trying to plan a charter trip in Venice just to fish off that 33'...
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Well, this monster is starting to take shape. We have set the keels and epoxied in the stems along with all 4 chine logs. We will start planing all of the pieces and start putting on the bottoms the week after Xmas.
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One can only imagin the ride of a 40. i can't imagin why anyone considering a large CC would consider any thing else after riding on Mike's 33 in a horrible conditions.
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i also have a shop in the old renken plant, can i come over and look at your masterpiece someday?
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