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Old 11-19-2009, 02:13 PM
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How bout oh...no............Were in a heep a lot of trouble now.

They all look like they have no clue, in the picture.

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Grouper fillets for $.67/lb
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Come to FL (Ft Myers) and catch them, they have turned into a HUGE nuisance. I fished a wreck 46 miles out last weekend and could hardly get a fish past them. Ended up using a TLD20 to catch the snapper we could because with large spinners you couldn’t reel fast enough to get past them, if the fish took any drag at all, they were toast.

Another boat joined us, actually targeting them for catch and release, and caught about 3 of them while we were there, lost many of course. They released all unharmed.

They should open a lottery or something for them. My stepdad dives here in Ft Myers and every wreck is loaded down with them.
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Originally Posted by Rickster View Post
Come to FL (Ft Myers) and catch them, they have turned into a HUGE nuisance. I fished a wreck 46 miles out last weekend and could hardly get a fish past them. Ended up using a TLD20 to catch the snapper we could because with large spinners you couldn’t reel fast enough to get past them, if the fish took any drag at all, they were toast.

Another boat joined us, actually targeting them for catch and release, and caught about 3 of them while we were there, lost many of course. They released all unharmed.

They should open a lottery or something for them. My stepdad dives here in Ft Myers and every wreck is loaded down with them.

what would you recommend we do with the huge Human nuisance?
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:32 PM
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Thats another thread and beyond repair, LOL.
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I mean seriously? Does the DA not have enough to do but to mess with someone that made an honest mistake?

This is what is wrong with our court systems. Fine the guy...OK but possible jail time please!

Oh well.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:51 PM
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How deep's the water off St. George Island?

Saws are a deep-water fish...and while I've never caught one, the pics I've seen show a VERY distinctive dorsal, and nothing like a Goliath's.
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Says he is to be fined $150 and donate $150. Did not say he would have to do jail time.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:20 PM
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Those things eat everything near them, I can't imagine how they are enacting a red snapper ban and doing nothing about the large jewfish issue.
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I agree they are a nuisance. They eat anything and everything on the reefs and wrecks around here.

Fishing would be much better here without them.
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Originally Posted by usmarinekurt View Post
what would you recommend we do with the huge Human nuisance?


shoot'em duh
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Vent them properly
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mattmuttsmithx View Post
I mean seriously? Does the DA not have enough to do but to mess with someone that made an honest mistake?

This is what is wrong with our court systems. Fine the guy...OK but possible jail time please!

Oh well.
Now around here we do call that poaching.. Honest mistake or not.

I'm an avid fisherman.. Heck, I have even made the misake of bringing a short lobster to the surface when diving at night. My contact lens fell out in my mask and I surfaced along the rocks to measure it and the fish and game was right there. I got a ticket. I knew the rules and I broke them. Out here if your diving for bugs, you need to measure them in the water and not on the rocks. I paid the fine and in retrospect, I completely agree with the LEO's decision to cite me.

We have way too many people around here who fish without licenses or poach. God knows how many of them try to give a great excuse when they get caught! I bet all of them do. As such, when the LEO's start using judgment instead of the laws, we will have some SERIOUS issues. Truth is that I am very surprised that it only cost this guy $300 for killing a protected species. Mistake or not.

That said, I am glad they showed some leniency. I do believe it was an honest mistake. But laws are laws and ignorance is no defense.
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Now around here we do call that poaching.. Honest mistake or not.

I'm an avid fisherman.. Heck, I have even made the misake of bringing a short lobster to the surface when diving at night. My contact lens fell out in my mask and I surfaced along the rocks to measure it and the fish and game was right there. I got a ticket. I knew the rules and I broke them. Out here if your diving for bugs, you need to measure them in the water and not on the rocks. I paid the fine and in retrospect, I completely agree with the LEO's decision to cite me.

We have way too many people around here who fish without licenses or poach. God knows how many of them try to give a great excuse when they get caught! I bet all of them do. As such, when the LEO's start using judgment instead of the laws, we will have some SERIOUS issues. Truth is that I am very surprised that it only cost this guy $300 for killing a protected species. Mistake or not.

That said, I am glad they showed some leniency. I do believe it was an honest mistake. But laws are laws and ignorance is no defense.
Laws are laws you are right but in no way shape or form should something like this end up in our court system. I bet it takes two weeks to decide what to do with this guy but it takes 10 YEARS to kill a convicted serial killer. Also while the DA and all his assistants are working on this case there are multiple other cases involving drugs/rape/robbery/etc that they could be working on. It would seem to me that working on real problems would make more sense.

I dont know may be its just me?
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I still can not understand how that fish was mistaken for a Warsaw?? That Jewfish does not remotely resemble a Warsaw.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fishinmaniac View Post
Those things eat everything near them, I can't imagine how they are enacting a red snapper ban and doing nothing about the large jewfish issue.
fishinmaniac is right, we finally figured it out, the Jewfish are eating all the Red Snapper. The Feds need to enact a law immediately prosecuting all Jewfish that are witnessed feeding on the ARS. That should help...
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:53 AM
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Now the Goliath are eradicating lobster in the Florida Keys. In the bay, there is one Goliath per hole, and they just sit there and eat anything that comes into their realm.

The key to resisting misguided, militant FWC and Marine Patrol nazis is to distrust them, and advocate the greater boating community to break ties with them. Without the help of the boating public, they are irrelevant.
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Now the Goliath are eradicating lobster in the Florida Keys. In the bay, there is one Goliath per hole, and they just sit there and eat anything that comes into their realm.

The key to resisting misguided, militant FWC and Marine Patrol nazis is to distrust them, and advocate the greater boating community to break ties with them. Without the help of the boating public, they are irrelevant.
You ought to be careful using the N word in a thread about Jewfish
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