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Old 11-09-2009, 11:44 AM
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I purchased a boat from Brett Hyde at Sun Harbor Marine 9 weeks ago... Long story short... I'm from Texas, and the boat was in Florida... Brett said he had the title in his hand.. I wired 30k into his account.. Come to find out the seller has a lein against the boat, and every word he said was a lie.. Still no title, and the seller still owes on the boat. Numerious calls and email and we both are getting a bunch of BS. I have prosecuted Brett Hyde and Sun Harbor Maine, and entering into a lawsuit.....

Has anyone else delt with this guy/thief ??????

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Old 11-09-2009, 12:05 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, Im looking at a simular sitution
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RSMoody View Post
I purchased a boat from Brett Hyde at Sun Harbor Marine 9 weeks ago... Long story short... I'm from Texas, and the boat was in Florida... Brett said he had the title in his hand.. I wired 30k into his account.. Come to find out the seller has a lein against the boat, and every word he said was a lie.. Still no title, and the seller still owes on the boat. Numerious calls and email and we both are getting a bunch of BS. I have prosecuted Brett Hyde and Sun Harbor Maine, and entering into a lawsuit.....

Has anyone else delt with this guy/thief ??????
Not trying to be an ass, but why wire funds for the purchase? I know your in Texas and boat and seller in Florida but dont you have to pick up boat? Why not do whole transaction in person. Again, not trying to be a jerk, just curious i guess. Sorry for your trouble. Hope it works out.
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Tread carefully my friend, as a public forum such as this, your posts here could be used against you in a court of law. I'm no lawyer but if you say you have one and your going to sue them, better get advise from them before you dig your own grave. Other members here with the proper legal advise will be along soon I'm sure. Either way good luck with your endeavors.

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Old 11-09-2009, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG R JR View Post
Tread carefully my friend, as a public forum such as this, your posts here could be used against you in a court of law. I'm no lawyer but if you say you have one and your going to sue them, better get advise from them before you dig your own grave. Other members here with the proper legal advise will be along soon I'm sure. Either way good luck with your endeavors.

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Yep and as you see above, you cannot count on taking back whatever you posted. You can't another person's post.
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Making sure it does not happen to anyone else.....
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You should be okay since everything you've posted is probably already known to the other party. As long as you can back it up they can't claim libel either.

Lawyers generally counsel you not to speak to the press because the other party may offer a larger settlement if they can get a 'confidentiality' clause included in the deal. Then again, if the schmuck is digging in their heels, a little negative publicity might speed things up.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by RSMoody View Post
Making sure it does not happen to anyone else.....
Either that or you're angry with the guy and decided to hurt him by posting on a public forum.

Have you considered writing him a certified letter demanding a refund?

Have you tried contacting any consumer protection agencies?

You can post all you want, people won't see it, they will stil do business with the company. Chances are, it's a reputable company and your deal is one of a very few that hit a snag.

Do us all a favor; since you decided to trial this case on an Internet forum, give him this URL snd invite him to post his side of the story. That way we'll have bot sides and can make a fair judgement.
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I don't see it as such a big deal. Our boat, sold thru a dealer, had a lien against it as well. The owner's bank agreed on a short sale and all that took a few months. I was in possession of and enjoying my boat, so no worries.
Many times you aren't able to drive away with the title, they need to be released from the bank. We had all accompanying paperwork and although it didn't happen in my time frame, everything worked out well. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by RSMoody View Post
I purchased a boat from Brett Hyde at Sun Harbor Marine 9 weeks ago... Long story short... I'm from Texas, and the boat was in Florida... Brett said he had the title in his hand.. I wired 30k into his account.. Come to find out the seller has a lein against the boat, and every word he said was a lie.. Still no title, and the seller still owes on the boat. Numerious calls and email and we both are getting a bunch of BS. I have prosecuted Brett Hyde and Sun Harbor Maine, and entering into a lawsuit.....

Has anyone else delt with this guy/thief ??????
It's not really clear in your post who you are talking about when you say "the seller", "he", and "we both".

Does The business own the boat or are they selling it as a broker or on consignment? Who is lying? Who are "we both"?
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As long as the broker used the funds you sent him to pay the actual owner/seller then I don't see a problem.

The owner/seller uses the money to pay off the bank, he gets the title and signs it over to the broker who then signs it over to you...or the owner signs the title directly to you.

So he lied about having the title in his hand......we have all been lied to when buying a car, boat, home, ect..... Its the typical sales hole tactics.
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So he lied about having the title in his hand......we have all been lied to when buying a car, boat, home, ect..... Its the typical sales hole tactics.
Sometimes the "lie" is not a lie at all. One person said one thing, the other person heard something different.

It's best if it's put in writing. That way, there's no question of what was "said".
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Originally Posted by RSMoody View Post
I purchased a boat from Brett Hyde at Sun Harbor Marine 9 weeks ago... Long story short... I'm from Texas, and the boat was in Florida... Brett said he had the title in his hand.. I wired 30k into his account.. Come to find out the seller has a lein against the boat, and every word he said was a lie.. Still no title, and the seller still owes on the boat. Numerious calls and email and we both are getting a bunch of BS. I have prosecuted Brett Hyde and Sun Harbor Maine, and entering into a lawsuit.....

Has anyone else delt with this guy/thief ??????
That sucks Moody, to say the least. I'm a dealer and I'll say this to any consumers: On any used/brokered/consigned vessels, make sure the discussions of free & clear title are discussed prior to any final financial transactions. If they claim to have title in hand, then it will cost them no more than about 15 cents of long distance time to fax a copy. Hell, they can even scan and e-mail it to you free with the prior owner's info blacked out. I'm not saying that this dealer "scammed" you, but that should be someone's first priority prior to your final commitment.

Considering the state of our dealer network and marine industry, everyone (even dealers) must operate as if every person/business out there is looking to jerk the rug out from under you via any means possible. Until our economy and industry begins to stabilize, we all need to play by the books, dot every "I" and cross every "T". Sorry about your misfortune and good luck.
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We don't even have titles for boats in Maine!
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Thanks for bringing to light shady marine sales tactics. I feel your pain but once the buyer pays off the lein it will still take a couple/few months for you to get the title. I think most boaters on here want to be aware of certain brokers/reputations in their region. This will never be used in court, no way to prove it was you who posted this. It's the magical world of the internet. I'm a doctor in Mexico and a Dentist in Canada
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Originally Posted by RSMoody View Post
I purchased a boat from Brett Hyde at Sun Harbor Marine 9 weeks ago... Long story short... I'm from Texas, and the boat was in Florida... Brett said he had the title in his hand.. I wired 30k into his account.. Come to find out the seller has a lein against the boat, and every word he said was a lie.. Still no title, and the seller still owes on the boat. Numerious calls and email and we both are getting a bunch of BS. I have prosecuted Brett Hyde and Sun Harbor Maine, and entering into a lawsuit.....

Has anyone else delt with this guy/thief ??????
Sorry to hear about that. Reminds of a boat I was looking at years ago. The owner wanted me to hand him the money and take the boat while he paid the loan off (he owed a bit more than the price) then gave me the title. I informed him I would be glad to meet him at the bank, hand the bank the money and receive the title. Never heard from him again.
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.....I'm a doctor in Mexico and a Dentist in Canada

Your parents must be so proud.




To the OP, I hope this is a case of bad timing and you get your title soon.
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Won't help now, but requesting a notarized copy of the title would have helped here..... At least you would have know who the lien holders were and could find out what they are owed.....
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Originally Posted by rwidman View Post
Either that or you're angry with the guy and decided to hurt him by posting on a public forum.

Have you considered writing him a certified letter demanding a refund?

Have you tried contacting any consumer protection agencies?

You can post all you want, people won't see it, they will stil do business with the company. Chances are, it's a reputable company and your deal is one of a very few that hit a snag.

Do us all a favor; since you decided to trial this case on an Internet forum, give him this URL snd invite him to post his side of the story. That way we'll have bot sides and can make a fair judgement.


WHY do you ASSume so much from reading his post?

Do us all a favor and don't make such stupid ASSumptions when you are ignorant of the facts.

Thanks
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Ouch.... Thirty large is a lot of scratch to get screwed out of, I don't care who you are... Good luck!
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