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Old 08-17-2009, 08:06 AM
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I have been meaning to write a review thread for my Judge Yachts 27 Chesapeake just as I have my other boats in the past. However, I had been apprehensive since I have started as a part-time sales rep for the company this past spring and didn’t want it to come across poorly. After some thought I decided I would write one anyhow. I would just again be open and honest about my part-time affiliation with the company. This way readers can decide for themselves how much credence they want to give to what I have to say.. Of course as with any post on the internet, these are only my thoughts and opinions anyhow and no one has to take the time to read them anyhow. Now that I have had the boat over 9 months and have over 220 hours on the motor plus countless hours more on the boat, I thought this would be a good time. Besides I needed something to do while I sat with my wife and she watched HGTV. Plus, I enjoy doing this kind of stuff. Bottom line is if you arent interested or dont like it, dont read it

Affiliation:
Just to clarify my affiliation, last spring I had approached Bill Judge about helping sell his boats. This is a part time thing as I make my career in a sales position for a printing and direct mail company in the DC marketplace. Having taken delivery of my boat about 4 months earlier, I found myself constantly receiving compliments and questions about the boat everywhere I went. It was getting to the point that I had to pad the time I would tell my wife that I would be home due to people wanting to discuss the boat at the ramps I frequented. Because of this and my sales background, I saw an opportunity to help pay for some of my fishing habits and have a little fun helping others in an industry that revolved around my favorite hobby. It was then that I asked Bill to help sell for him and he accepted. Like many say, and I believe too, there is no better salesperson than a satisfied customer. The boat is a product I truly believe in. (*** UPDATE 2018: I have run charters out of the boat since 2013.)

Long time admiration:
To further justify my admiration of Judge Yachts prior to my affiliation with the company, I will note that my father had been Judge owner for a couple of years prior to me getting my boat. My father owns a 2001 27 Judge Downeast that was purchased used through a private party in 2006. Up until that point I had not met Bill Judge in person. However, despite buying his boat used, Bill Judge took very good care of my father and this started my knowing of Bill and what type of person he is and product he puts out. This only further spurred my desires to own one of his boats.

My admiration actually goes back even further as even prior to knowing Bill. I had always noticed his boats as they stood out to me on the bay. There are threads here as far back as 7 years ago (if not longer) when I had spoke of my high admiration of the 27 Chesapeake (see here: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...now-judge.html ) I only rulled ownership out at the time thinking that my family would more into overnight trips on the bay and I bought a 30' boat with mid cabin. However the overnighting on the boat with a young family never worked out well for us and the passion for fishing that my father had instilled in me grew stronger. So, I needed to return to a trailerable boat. Of course even when I purchased my last boat upon downsizing I noted in my last review that the Judge was my top boat of choice. I just was not comparing apples to apples when it came to pricing with options and I didnt want to stretch my budget (See here: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...-thoughts.html Prior to purchasing the Maycraft, I had looked at other sport cabin boats like Steiger, Parker, C-hawk, etc.) In the long run I discovered that nothing is more expensive than buying a second choice only to sell it and purchase what my first choice was all along. Anyhow, after owning 3 different boats since I first started boating here on the Chesapeake Bay and spending my life growing up at the Jersey shore on many others, I fully recognized that the Judge was probably worth the investment to get the boat that best suited me and my family's needs.

Why I like/chose the 27 Chesapeake:








Reason 1: Layout
  • Large cockpit
  • Ample area out of the weather
  • Open back wheel house
  • Level deck to helm
  • Full transom w. swim platform
  • V-berth area
  • Trailerability
  • Tons of storage
I love the large cockpit and equaly as large area out of the weather. The layout of the boat allows me to fish a full crew in comfort. During the spring MSSA tournament, I was able to fish a crew of 5 in periods heavy rains and we had an area of nice refuge where we could still watch our baits. For the most part we were dry except when the action heated up. I am also able to take my family of 5, along with a few friends on occasion, for a day of cruising around the bay without everyone having to bake in the sun. It makes for a nice shaded place on the water. The extended top with drop enclosure is great in the cold, rain, intense sun, and heat. I have used the boat on days that have started as low as 22 degrees and days where the high has hit well over 90 degrees and have always been comfortable. (of course the portable heater makes those sub-freezing mornings much more comfortable too)

The open back design of the wheelhouse allows everyone on board, whether they are in the cockpit or helm, to feel as they are together. I never feel like a bus driver and am part of the action whether I am at the helm or not. The level deck is safety issue for me as I don’t want my crew or kids to get hurt on the water. I have seen the effects of trip hazzard on a boat and it was important for me to remove that obstical.

Another feature that was a must have for me is the full transom. This gives my wife a sense of security for the kids on the water. They arent going by the power when underway and she feels like it is a better barrier between them and the water. I personally like it for drifting in rougher water, like the rips, where I have been on boats that have had rogue waves splash over my fathers previously full transom i/o powered boat. The full transom also allows for much more transom storage. We were also able to get the bracket with the full swim platform. My kids love this as they frequently like to swim off the boat in the summer.

The small V-berth is a great area for a nap and port-a-potti. Having a wife and 2 daughters, 5 gal buckets just don’t appeal to them. The kids are also frequent nappers in the cabin. I too have been known to nap after a long day before a tow home. While we havent done an overnighter on the boat, I hope to soon and love having that option. No it isnt going to make a great family overnighting boat but for an overnight trip with my son or a long fishing trip, it is nice to have that option. Plus having an area to lock my fishing gear when I trailer to overnight fishing locations and dry store clothes or other items on the worst weather days is a must too. The V berth is cabin is perfect for this.

I love all the storage on the boat too. I have under v-berths, under the helm seat, under the dinette, tackle storage drawers in the dinetter, and a huge transom fish box. I think this is the first boat I have had that I am able to store all my gear and still have room left over.

One of the best parts of this boat to me was maintaining a big water boat yet something I could trailer with my half-ton truck. I got tire of being land locked or limited to fishing the immediate area where I live. I wanted to be able to chase striped bass from NJ to VA as well as take the boat on our family vacations. Additioanlly I didnt want to be at the mercy of a marina for haul-outs, storage and winterization. They drive up the cost of boating and make you reliant upon other people for everything in many cases. Being that I typically drive over 25,000miles a year, I prefer not to drive a heavy duty truck. The weight and beam of the boat makes this boat easy to trailer and I do so with my 1500 silverado and 1500 suburban, both with a 5.3l v8.

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Reason 2: Hull design
  • Warped plane hull (blend of ride, speed, economy, stability)
  • Able to power a large hull with a single
  • Hull features (Chines, beam, keel)
I know I have used the term in the commercial ads here and when responding to threads but the "warped plane" hull design is near perfect for the type of boating I do. Even on a smaller boat of less than 30'. It offers a great blend of ride, speed, economy and stability for my boating needs. The "warped plane" term was made popular by many of the Carolina custom builders who use a sharp deep V entry in the bow that flattens out as it moves aft. The demensions on the 27 Chesapeake are that boat has a 45 degree entry that goes to about 24 degrees by the wheelhouse before flattening out to approx 12 degrees in the transom. The key to running this type of hull is to keep the boat in the water to where the entry of the bow can do the work in the rougher seas. Once you are traveling at a speed where the flatter part of the hull is coming out of the water, the ride can become uncomfortable. However, the flatter transom will give the boat the ability to plane at slower speeds and allowing to be pushed with much less power than a traditional deep v hull. No, this style hull will not run nearly as comfortable at the same speeds as a true deep v 24 degree deadrise hull in nastier water, but slowing a few knots to keep more of the hull in the water is worth the economy and stability upon fishing to me. I am your typical near shore and big bay fisherman as the species I tend to go after most is striped bass. Typically my runs are less than 20 miles from home so the few knots it cost me in time arent a big detriment to the time I have fishing even on rough days when tournament fishing. Even on my longer runs of 30 miles plus I find that the more moderate speeds are still more comfortable than running hard in another hull. The difference in time running generally isnt worth the workout, fuel, or power for what I do. Plus when the seas really kick up on a day when no one should be out and a deep v cannot remain on plane, my hull will plane at speeds as slow as about 12knots without any tab.


Another important feature to me due to the hull shape is that I am able to power the 26'4" x 8'10"cabin hull with a single 225 Honda and obtain adequate performance. Due to the lower deadrise and other hull attributes the boat will hit about 40mph at WOT and maintain a very economical cruise of speeds from 20-30mph. I believe my best cruise speeds to be about 25mph burning about 8gph even resulting in a 3.3mpg efficency. (A friend with a 250 Suzuki has hit speeds of 42-44mph with his same model boat.) Being that I am not your typical offshore canyon runner, I also wanted this ability to power with a single. It is not just the fuel economy I was looking for but the lower maintenance costs and "less to go wrong" philosophy that took over for me. The time I had my twin engine 30'er, I felt that I had more mechanical failure as I was keeping up with replacing parts on two motors instead of just one. I believed that this cost me more time down than if I had to just keep one motor running in tip top shape. Of course this keeps in mind that I typically am no more than 20-30miles offshore or fishing areas like the Chesapeake and Deleware Bays. Judge does offer twin offerings as my father runs twin 130 Hondas on his boat but the simplicity of a single was what interested me.

Judge really works to make his hulls run their best too. Along with widening the boat some (yet still maintaining a near 3:1 beam to width ratio), I believe Bill has pulled the chines back some to make the boat run much drier than my previous boat that has a similar hull design. With some of these changes, the boat has become nicer riding than some of the previous hulls he has built upon too. The boat still retains a small box keel too that, combined with the chine placement, prevents some of the bow steer issues in a following sea I have experienced with my previous warped plane hull of another brand. The boat also tracks very true when trolling for striped bass at 3-4 knots. Of course with the larger wheel house and only being a hair under 27' the wind can blow you around a bit but overall she is the best tracking boat I have owned. It truly is a great running hull in my opinion



Reason 3: Quality of Construction
  • Materials
  • All composite
  • Hand laid glass hull
  • Assembly
  • Poly tanks
  • low maintenace
I have grown the most over the years in understanding what seperates a well made boat from your average production boat. I believe Judge to be one of the better made boats on the market today. This starts with the materials. Judge is using all the finest materials available. From the Gell coats that retain their luster longer, to the resins and expoxies used in assembly. He is even using the finest in all composite, rot free coring materials. This gives me as an owner a piece of mind that the boat will never rot and wont be prone to deck, stringer, transom replacements. I know many manufacturers have gone to an all composite contruction. However many of the coring materials being foams that can break down over time. Judge prefers to use a material called Nida-core (http://www.nida-core.com). Nida-core is an all-composite honey comb-type material that has high core strength, low weight, is high impact resistant, offers virtually zero water absorption, and has sound insulation properties. Should water compromise any coring, water is confined to one small cell. This material also offers "rigid-elastic technology" so that the pounding and/or flexing wont break it down over time. Plus due to the fact that it transfers heat well, the appearance of the boat will remain nicer longer as the gell coat is not getting as hot as on a material that doesnt allow the heat of the sun to transfer through as quickly. According the nida-core representative, they have never had a boat fail structually due to use of this material in the 22 years they had been producing it. I know Judge has not had one failure in the 8 plus years they have used it. When used correctly, I believe it to be one of the best items on the market.


It is just not the use of better materials but in how things are done as the boat is made that seperate them as well. Judge hand-lays all their hulls with knitted triaxial fiberglass cloth. This not only makes for a stronger boat but makes for a more consistant lay up. Another example of how things are done better is in how things are pieced together. Being that Judge is a 3 piece hull with a hull, deck and cap, the bonding of those components is extremely important. Judge not only screws them together but glasses them together in the forward half of the boat and uses a perminate adhesive in the back half of the boat ensuring that nothing will come apart. Of course with the hull being solid glass and the screws needing something to bite, there is a strip of a dense foam call divinycell along the top edge of the hull where this bond is too. Most builders do not assemble or bond their boats together as Judge does. All my previous boats either had screws back out in the rub rail or would allow water into the cabin between the cap and hull in heavy seas.

Other things that give me confidence in the boat are the use of poly tanks. With ethanol seeming to reduce the life of aluminum tanks and eating away the resins in fiberglass tanks, i like the thought that I have a poly tank that I believe will give me longer life.

It is this combination of materials and assembly that gives me confidence that this boat will be long lasting and leave me less paranoid about maintenance

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Reason 4: The little things
  • Customizations
  • Good list of Standards
  • Fantastic resale
  • Classic lines and appearance
  • Choices of power
  • warranty
One of the things I enjoyed most about finally ordering the boat I wanted all along was watching it being built. My wife picked the cabin cushion materials and the accent colors. I was able to share trips to the plant with my son to see our boat being built. While it took some time to have the boat built as they are typically built to order, the time was great as it gave a chance for me and my son to learn a lot about boat building and understand how our boat was put together. Trips over the plant combined with receiving regular photos at my request really made the time go quick.


It is those little things that really help make me enjoy my boat. Plus with the build to order philosophy I was able to get the options and customizations I wanted. I wasnt paying for options that I didnt want on a boat that was in stock somewhere and I was able to get things where I wanted them (like rod holders). For my family boating I was able to have a dinette added and for fishing, items like a cockpit steering station added. Bottom line is that we were able to get what we wanted to make the boat suit our needs to the best we could without getting or paying for stuff we didnt want or necessarily need.

The other great part I found about Judge was that while I am able to customize the boat with options to suit my needs, there was an extensive list of standards that some of the other builder to order builders nickle and dime you out of that are necessary. The boat comes with state of the art volvo ql tabs, dome lights, windshield wiper, nice engine controlls, bow rail, bracket, cleats, etc. While they sound like they should be standards, many semi custom places they are not.

In addition to the customizations and list of standards, Judges have FANTASTIC resale (especially the 27 Chesapeakes). There are rarely any used and when they go for sale they go quickly and for great prices. Prior to me ordering my boat, I even spoke with an owner who sold their boat for more than they paid for it 7 years earlier. He only sold it to order a newer version. While I know this isnt the normal situation, the value retention is a huge plus to me as while I plan on keeping this boat a long time, it is nice to know that should I need to sell that the cost of ownership is about as low as it gets for a boat.

Of course, you cannot want a boat without being in love with its lines and appearance. I understand that it is not the new style of sleek and cutting edge and some may not like the lines of the boat. However, the boat resembles some of the work boats here on the bay with the forward helm but has a clean, newer, nicely finished, refined look. I get compliments on the appearance of the boat everywhere I go. To me it is design that will never go out of style. It is kind of like wearing a polo shirt, kakis, and boat shoes. It will still be in style 10 years from now just as it was 10 years ago.

I also liked that I wasnt forced into power that I didnt want. This was a biggie for me as I get turned off by a lack of choices. I dont like it when a boat manufacturer makes the decision on what power I will have. These are things I want to decide, just like electronics and options on the boat. Maybe I am too conservative for my own good. Being that Judge is factory direct and many dealerships are closing their doors, I certainly like the ability of chosing the power that I believe I could get serviced easily and quickly. (I stuck with Honda as BOE Marine is very close to me and they are a Honda dealer)

The strong warranty also gives me a good piece of mind that they stand behind the boats. There is a lifetime rot free warranty and 10 year structural warranty on the boat. Being that I know that Judge builds a well-made boat, I dont think I will ever have to use it but it is nice know its there.




Reason 5: The company
  • Bill Judge and his staff
  • Factory directOther
  • Judge owners
As mentioned in the introduction, I first found out what type of company Judge is through my father's purchase of a used 2001 Judge 27 in 2006. I got an email from Bill that offered for him to take a glance over the boat before taking it back to NJ. It was on that trip to the Judge facility that I was able to see the plant and meet Bill for the first time. He took the time to show me and my father his shop and go over what he was doing. When trying to decide whether or not I would sell my Maycraft to get into a Judge or have things built into the boat to make it more to our liking, Bill and his staff were always very helpful in explaining things and were not pushy in any way. Of course he exuded a confidence in the product he was making but always treated me right. He even performed some service work on my May-craft at a fair price while I was deciding to make the commitment to try to buy one of his boats.


I will say from having owned boats purchased through a dealer and private party, that I really enjoyed working factory direct. While Judge eventually would love to establish a dealer network, I did really appreciate the factory direct dealings. I know it is proabably more convenient for me than most on the board being only 45 minutes from the factory but it was great to get answers from the person who's name is on the side of my boat. Plus, I believe that there is more fat cut out of the cost and I was able to get a better value for my dollar than just about any other brand out there. No I didnt buy from a local dealer who does my service but I know Bill stands behind his product should anything become a problem. Plus I chose a motor where I can get great local service (from BOE Marine) so the only time my boat is going back to the factory for work is to add future options if I want or for a major item that most dealers turn to their manufacturer to repair anyhow. With dealers folding left and right, I also know my relationship is with peopel who arent going anywhere.

I will also note that the other Judge owners in the area were extremely helpful in my decision to buy a Judge. Just as there is a strong following for some other brands on THT, Judge has a strong following particularly in the Chesapeake region. They were very gracious in responding to my emails, taking my calls and answering my questions. They were also great to hang out with a few tackle shows and the factory open house in the spring. There is an atmosphere of a bond amoungst owners to where groups of us work together to find fish on some days on the bay. They certainly have made my ownership and involvement with Judge more fun...




Items I would change to make the boat "perfect" for me:
  • Nicer hatches
  • nicer finish in the fishbox
  • Front window supports
  • Options I wish I had (Radar, windlass, more rodholders)
Being that I take people for sea trials and frequently show my boat, I get comments at times to what it would take to make my boat their perfect boat. Of course being that Judge is a build to order custom manufacturer. 99% of the time you can get what you want. It only takes money (Alan Jackson song) Obviously some things cost more money than others and one has to determine what something is worth to them. Personally I got the boat I wanted aside from a few options that I will add as time goes on. Rightnow that list is radar, windlass, and additional rod holders. I had radar and windlass on previous boats but had already exceeded my budget so I got everything I wanted factory-wise and will add those things as my savings becomes a little more padded (problem is that because I bought the boat, the wife has gone for too many home improvements - I am a little slower at restoring savings at a rate I had hoped ).


Aside from the add on options I plan to do, there are a few changes I may have made during the construction of the boat. The first is I would have requested nicer hatches to the fishbox in the transom. This is more so to please guests to me as I use the fishbox for storage and I dont mind the plastic hatches. However that and the finish in the fish box are probably the only things I would want done and they would be to impress my friends more as as I carry a cooler that is easier to clean for fish (just my preference). I also like the window supports coming from the bottom instead of the top like I had on my May-craft. Of course these are all minor things that could be changed at the time of production at the request of a customer.

Oh yeah I would change the placement of two rod holders too. But that was my fault as I told them where and what angle to put them...
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Conclusion:
Well there you have my thoughts on why I chose the boat I did. I obviously am clearly biased being that not only am I a customer but someone who does help market the boats. Hopefully I have made clear the reasons to why I believe in the product as well as why I have chose to help represent them. Do I think the boats are perfec?, no. Are there things I would change, sure. However being that I was able to order the boat the way I wanted it directly from the factory, it is hard to find a gripe. While I certainly would love a 62 Spenser and the funds to run and support it, I am very happy with the boat for my purposes and cannot think of a better boat for the job.

Photos of the construction:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/members/...ld-photos.html
(note that there are two pages)


photos of the completed project:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/members/...hesapeake.html

Feel free to ask questions or make comments. (yes I know it is long but you didnt have to read it )


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Who could one contact in Chesapeake area for a Judge demo ride?
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B-Faithful,

Nice job summarizing what drove you to become a "Judge" owner. Very compelling words I'd say and it is obvious you sincerly belive what you write! I live in South Florida and very seldom, if ever, see this style of boat in Florida waters. Is there any reason why this boat wouldn't work bottom fishing or trolling in the Keys or out in the Dry Tortugas, some 60 miles due west of Key West?

Could you please comment on the Chesapeake 36 or your Express model as options?

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Fish Factory, I have been inviting you up during the migratory run to show you how we troll with planer boards... You just need to take me up on it

Mac, I think this style boat is slowly becoming more popular in the South. I am seeing more guys on the forums from the south with Maycraft's, Parkers, etc. Judge is just currently factory direct and doesnt have representation in the area yet. (there was a 24 Judge Chesapeake that was for sale in FLA this past spring but it quickly sold to a gentleman who had it shipped back to Maryland) The extended top, open back and opening windows make for a large shaded area out of the sun without sacrificing a lot in the cockpit. I would think it would be a layout that some would find very appealing. Being that many in FLA dont have too run far to the Gulf Stream, the slightly more modest speeds with the warped plane hull dont really impact the time lost fishing and would be a great platform for sailfish etc.. The hull is capable of running 60 off on the right days as my father runs his 27 Judge with twin Honda 130s offshore fairly regularly. One thing I failed to mention that is another advantage of warped plane hull is the shallow draft compared to a deep v, which may be good for fishing around the keys. The boat with its high bow and nice flare is a big water boat.

The 34 and 36 are totally different boats. The 34 is a true offshore machine with the traditional carolina express configuration. The aggressiveness of the taper of the deadrise is even greater than that of the other models. From my experience it is a fantastic, well-built boat that I know Bill Judge would put up against any mid 30's express on the market. You can see more info on the 34/35express here: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-com...hesapeake.html The 36 is Bill Judge's personally favorite boat, at least I think it is as every year or so he builds himself a boat and the last couple of times he has built himself a 36. It is a hull that is more like the deadrises of this area and is fast with a large single diesel (cruise of 28knots with a single 480 cummins). It has a shallower draft, huge cockpit, and the ones he has done for himself has like Hinkley-styling but made to fish. The wheelhouse has a/c and heat so it is probably one of the most comfortable boats to run in any climate. Its length and level running make it eat up the slop too. I believe he has sold a boat or two that are being used as charters in the mid atlantic too. (you can get them made finished as you want.. bear bones to yacht finish). You can see more on 36 here as Bill Judge's personal boat is now being offered so he can build himself another: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-com...eake-demo.html Of course that is a loaded model..

While I have some experience with the other models, I personally know the 27 Chesapeake model best as it is what I own. I needed the trailerability of a big water boat that offered a good amount of weather protection and large fishing area. I think the 27 Chesapeake is unsurpassed in its quality of construction, price, and layout for what I do.
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The 27 would likely be quite good for here in the Keys. Biggest issues are the same for all WA/cuddys in that keeping them ventilated and cool is a problem. Summer hot calm days mean you want all the breeze you can get, making all the enclosed style boats less comfortable. The Judge does have the opening windows available which would be critical. In the winter, when it's cold enough to enjoy the enclosed area it's because of high winds -- so a lot of boaters just won't go because of rough seas. The extra shade area [especially with an extra bimini top or canvas off the hard-top] is a great feature. Shallower draft is nice because it means you can go Gulf side more easily and improve your fishing days.

For my overall boating [snorkeling/diving, cruising, fishing] the solid transom is undesirable -- but I know most fisherman like them.

The performance sounds adequate [MPG excellent] since the Gulf Stream for us in the lower Keys runs from about 7 miles offshore to around 60 miles -- and can change that much in a couple of days. Up near Key Largo/Ocean Reef it is more often a max of 10-15 miles offshore so speed is even less critical. Dry Tortugas is about 70 miles from Key West so faster is always nice, but 3 hours in the 27 seems reasonable.

My humble opinions, from the Keys, but not a Judge owner.

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I couldn't have written it better. As a Judge 27 CC owner I concur with all of Gregs rambling. My boat was built after Gregs and Judge has cured the fish box issue by providing a molded and hinged top as opposed to hatches. Looks like you may have to buy a new one Greg!
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:21 AM
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:49 PM
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hey bro, thats an awsome boat you have...love the lines and ability to power it with that small of motor...bet she does good in that nasty chop yall have up that way.....
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:17 PM
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Hey, girl, you forgot to read the last sentence of the first paragraph.

B - nice boat
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:32 AM
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Your links hyperlink to the Outlook Web Access of an exchange server somewhere.
Thanks, I typed it in my work email account from home while my wife was watching her shows. I corrected it and all the links should work now. Let me know if they dont.

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Old 08-19-2009, 10:31 AM
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B, great post!! I have been an admirer of your boat since before it was built. I'm going to be putting mine up for sale here shortly and will be out of boat ownership for a couple of years because of personal commitments. But, if all goes as planned, the Judge 27 Chesapeake will be my next boat!
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:24 PM
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You LOVE that boat and your enthusiasm is amazing! He's not a spammer, he LOVES that boat! More power to him. :-)

I love my Jones Brothers but don't like to type all that much LOL!

Best of luck to you B!
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:35 PM
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I probably love my boat as much as most do. I just like writing about it and the things that justified the purchase to myself. My points certainly were to take away from other boats on the market either rather than to point out the attributes of the Judge.

Dpowell, I personally am impressed also with the Jones Brothers too from what I have seen.
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Pimping aint easy....lol...


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Old 08-19-2009, 06:34 PM
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No complaining next time some spammer comes on here pimping cheap Air Jordans.
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